So I went in thinking I want to help, its beta, keep your expectations low. I haven't been following this really at all. All I can say is that I played for about 3 hours, got to level 7, and I realize that many will say the real game opens up at X level, but this has to be one of the most boring and painful starts to a game since I tried Aion and couldn't take it anymore by level 10. 

The Graphics were horrible. I mean, seriously, I realize its beta, but at the same time this is 2013...the game looks to me worse than LOTRO or games 6+ years old. The water looked terrible. 

The combat was a little new to me and it took me a couple of minutes to figure out Ill never get my cursor like Im used to in other games lol, but once I got the hang of it, it was OK, but nothing whatsoever that had me saying "wow, combat is fun".

Character customization was OK, better than games like TOR and if it stopped at this point I would give the game a decent grade.

Questing felt like a huge step backwards and as a lover of PVE, I was bored to death.

The voiceovers are welcome, but when the mouth moves out of sync with what they are saying, its not very immersing. This can be excused for a beta.

Animations, well, average at best.

After playing to level 48 in SWTOR and to the end of Guild Wars 2, I just can't go backwards with games like this. For both of those games, at least the beginning, I was immediately drawn in. With this game, it just felt so irrelevant. Nothing pulled me in. I mean, in GW2, I ran around marveling at the graphics, especially the cities, just so beautiful..of course by the end of the game when I realized nothing was in them to do my opinion changed,,,,but thats another story lol.

Ok, back to playing Skyrim since no MMO has me right now. Thanks for the beta, but god, what were they thinking?

PS I did report one bug of continually being hit with nothing on the screen...so I did my duty lol.

I'm afraid you lost all credibility at "Graphics are horrible". Either your settings were wrong, or you are intentionally misleading people.

Originally posted by arche22

I'm afraid you lost all credibility at "Graphics are horrible". Either your settings were wrong, or you are intentionally misleading people.

i'd say the areas to me look good but some of the character models are pretty horrid.. for example most female models look very "off" and running up stairs looks very akward.. the running animations look bad especially on the females as it seems they used the same exact running animation for the male and female models and it looks like it was designed for large brutish type characters and just doesn't work with the females. Overall graphics are decent for me nothing great but very passable.. just needs some serious work on the female models basic animations imho

Originally posted by keithian

So I went in thinking I want to help, its beta, keep your expectations low. I haven't been following this really at all. All I can say is that I played for about 3 hours, got to level 7, and I realize that many will say the real game opens up at X level, but this has to be one of the most boring and painful starts to a game since I tried Aion and couldn't take it anymore by level 10. 

The Graphics were horrible. I mean, seriously, I realize its beta, but at the same time this is 2013...the game looks to me worse than LOTRO or games 6+ years old. The water looked terrible. 

The combat was a little new to me and it took me a couple of minutes to figure out Ill never get my cursor like Im used to in other games lol, but once I got the hang of it, it was OK, but nothing whatsoever that had me saying "wow, combat is fun".

Character customization was OK, better than games like TOR and if it stopped at this point I would give the game a decent grade.

Questing felt like a huge step backwards and as a lover of PVE, I was bored to death.

The voiceovers are welcome, but when the mouth moves out of sync with what they are saying, its not very immersing. This can be excused for a beta.

Animations, well, average at best.

After playing to level 48 in SWTOR and to the end of Guild Wars 2, I just can't go backwards with games like this. For both of those games, at least the beginning, I was immediately drawn in. With this game, it just felt so irrelevant. Nothing pulled me in. I mean, in GW2, I ran around marveling at the graphics, especially the cities, just so beautiful..of course by the end of the game when I realized nothing was in them to do my opinion changed,,,,but thats another story lol.

Ok, back to playing Skyrim since no MMO has me right now. Thanks for the beta, but god, what were they thinking?

PS I did report one bug of continually being hit with nothing on the screen...so I did my duty lol.

 

+1, even down to the reporting of invisible mob.

Originally posted by arche22

I'm afraid you lost all credibility at "Graphics are horrible". Either your settings were wrong, or you are intentionally misleading people.

...they are not horrible, but very dated for a new game that is coming out in 2013 for sure.  I have a 2GB video card 16gb ram AMD Pheom six core processor....all was running at max settings.

It might be fun for the foundry system, but this game will not be winning any awards for their graphics for sure.

Originally posted by Mannish
The game is a good game for what it is.

I agree.  And I did think 'wow, the combat is fun'.

Originally posted by arche22

I'm afraid you lost all credibility at "Graphics are horrible". Either your settings were wrong, or you are intentionally misleading people.

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My specs are as follows:

MALIBAL Nine X7200 (7280)
Triple Channel 12GB 12288MB PC3-8500/1066 MHz| Intel Core i7 990X | Dual NVIDIA GTX 580M |250 GB Intel 510 Sata III 6GB/sec| 8X Multi DVD |WIndows 7 Home Premium |Intel 6300 Ultimate 802.11 | IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound

I had everything on high settings and I have a fantastic Alienware monitor.

In my opinion, the graphics are extremely dated..which in my mind means horrible.

Originally posted by keithian

After playing to level 48 in SWTOR and .......

 

Wait, what?

You played SWTOR to practically the end and it didn't feel like a step backwards?

Wow, either you haven't played many MMOs or Neverwinter is a really really bad game.  I believe the former just because my arse could make a better game than SWTOR after a big night on the curry.  Neverwinter can't possibly be worse than it.

Originally posted by woza

Originally posted by keithian

After playing to level 48 in SWTOR and .......

 

Wait, what?

You played SWTOR to practically the end and it didn't feel like a step backwards?

Wow, either you haven't played many MMOs or Neverwinter is a really really bad game.  I believe the former just because my arse could make a better game than SWTOR after a big night on the curry.  Neverwinter can't possibly be worse than it.

No, because SWTOR, though copying much from WOW..and though it needs an injection of life...took what everyone raved about (Age of Conan Tortage) and raised the bar on that experience 10 fold throughout the entire game. Eventually yes I got bored of that game, but from a PVE perspective/story telling where one no longer accepts a wall of text for a quest, it was a step forward. Regardless, I'm not here to defend a game Im not playing.

PS I said I played SWTOR to level 48, not end level, so there lol.

Under most circumstances I would give a game a serious try but I felt nothing after an hour so called it quits.

Nothing and I mean nothing hooked me.

Also, I am not a graphics snob but honestly for 2013 the game looks bad.

GTX 570, everything maxed and it would have looked acceptable for a game launching in 2008/9 not 2013.

I've only played for about 45 min to an hr and my only real complaint so far is no zoom,I mean wtf,that's a feature in mostly all the new game's.Let me get closer or farther with the camera.

I also agree with Aero and the female running animation's.They look like a male warrior's run,need some variety here.

On the graphic's I set mine to high and noticed it was at 100%.The thing is I was able to take it to 200% if I want (world detail and I believe character detail also).I put my world detail at 150% and the game look's pretty good to me.

Originally posted by NetSage
It sounds like your biggest gripe is story telling.  While I agree a great story is awesome.  But, well that's one of my biggest gripes with gw2.  If they make to in depth for you then well you should just be playing an rpg not an mmo.  Because all it becomes is a singal player game with random people around you.

No, that was only part of it. It honestly just felt as a whole boring and bland. Its just my opinion. Others may love it. I hope they continue to have fun.

I agree with you about GW2, that was by the end my gripe too, but it kept me to the end only because of the beauty of the world and the fact that I could join in with others at will which I like. It def got old and I wasn't logging in as much on the last 10 levels, but it did keep me to end level.

I also agree with you that for now, there is no MMO that has me catched which is what I wrote in my OP that I'm playing Skyrim. 

Here's hoping that Elder Scrolls Online is a little more interesting (or maybe some dark horse we don't know much about yet). 

Graphics to me held some charm, maybe nostoligia it just felt "DnD" to me personally. 

Overall it played above my expectations. I really don't see this blind bashing on a game as people are so quick to belittle it and for so many reasons it just seems, stupid? I really don't know a better term for it. The core mechanics of the game are solid and its over-design is actually quite entertaining, far more then I ever expected. The combat is to my opinion is really good, like 'holy crap, I didn't realize it would be that great' good. I expected it would be nice action combat but never that it would paly so well. Given they fix some animations (which I know they did for rogue so its likely) its all that can easily be improved till then a good portion just feels so satisfying for combat.

Perfect? No, but its no where near 'aweful' as the OP pushes it to be. Its actually quite a pleasant surprise to me I actually found it to be a lot better then I expected. The foundry had me interested but the gameplay itself is surprisingly fun, to the point I even can let go (a little) of my gripe about them dumbing down the classes and skimping on some DnD elements.

Honestly its one of the few games in the last few years that really caught my attention as being real entertaining and enjoyable to the point no real flaw holds me back like Tera had manage do with questing. Its not as 'glorious' to me as path of exile (lacking that depth I enjoy) but it did bring me a great sense of thrill for playing it, only to help me feel with the foundry and good developers working on it, it can last a good deal of time in the future.

Originally posted by keithian

So I went in thinking I want to help, its beta, keep your expectations low. I haven't been following this really at all. All I can say is that I played for about 3 hours, got to level 7, and I realize that many will say the real game opens up at X level, but this has to be one of the most boring and painful starts to a game since I tried Aion and couldn't take it anymore by level 10. 

The Graphics were horrible. I mean, seriously, I realize its beta, but at the same time this is 2013...the game looks to me worse than LOTRO or games 6+ years old. The water looked terrible. 

Agreed

The combat was a little new to me and it took me a couple of minutes to figure out Ill never get my cursor like Im used to in other games lol, but once I got the hang of it, it was OK, but nothing whatsoever that had me saying "wow, combat is fun".

Right its diferent the nother mmos i played.

Character customization was OK, better than games like TOR and if it stopped at this point I would give the game a decent grade.

CC is horrible for 2013 standards

Questing felt like a huge step backwards and as a lover of PVE, I was bored to death.

Agree

The voiceovers are welcome, but when the mouth moves out of sync with what they are saying, its not very immersing. This can be excused for a beta.

Animations, well, average at best.

After playing to level 48 in SWTOR and to the end of Guild Wars 2, I just can't go backwards with games like this. For both of those games, at least the beginning, I was immediately drawn in. With this game, it just felt so irrelevant. Nothing pulled me in. I mean, in GW2, I ran around marveling at the graphics, especially the cities, just so beautiful..of course by the end of the game when I realized nothing was in them to do my opinion changed,,,,but thats another story lol.

Same here

Ok, back to playing Skyrim since no MMO has me right now. Thanks for the beta, but god, what were they thinking?

PS I did report one bug of continually being hit with nothing on the screen...so I did my duty lol.

In a nutshell if u dont know what todo for single player games and ur looking for something different, this game is ok, otherwise i suggest to keep playing gw2 or ne other mmo with better graphics/quest system

i give it a 5.5/10

ps

yeah my grammar realy bleeps, english isnt my native language so sue me

I personally love the graphics style and the dungeon atmosphere of places like ruins, crypts and even warehouses. But what is even more funny is that I'm recognizing some posters here bashing NWO's graphics as dated, while they are posting in Wildstar forums that they love Wildstar's graphics - that being 7 years old WoW-cloned graphics. xD

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