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  rojoArcueid

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3/20/13 1:37:13 AM#21
Originally posted by Volgore

I just stumbled upon this on PCGamer: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/19/richard-garriott-game-designers-suck/

I think for someone with a failed Tabula Rasa in his record and the need for a kickstarter for his new title, he is rolling up some heavy artillery there.

Have fun :)

 

i had a blast reading the comments of so many stupid people on that article's comment session. They made my day.

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  johnisme

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3/20/13 1:41:53 AM#22
Ditto.
  Tuchaka

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3/20/13 1:48:02 AM#23
Originally posted by strangiato2112

 

 The reason he is going to kickstarter is because innovation in the MMO market is dead projects tommorow's themepark games are gonna be influenced by indie projects that are succesful.

Because GW2 (no trinity, not heavily gearbased), TSW (modern setting, puzzle/mystery solving gameplay, skill wheel), and TERA (action oriented combat) are all standard games?  people that think everything is still WoW clones are blind to whats going on around them.  okay, TERA maybe be 'poor quality WoW with action combat", but the other two games are far, far from WoW clonish.  And of course games like PS2, Defiance and EoN (if it releases0 that are crossgenre games.

 

There is plenty of innovation out there.

 

 

The real question is why is a millionaire who can spend 30 million to go to space asking for crowd funding?

yep GW2 is innovative and its why i play it, as far as the TSW goes pretty standard themepark, ya its a different setting that has not been done before but to me that is minor and has very little to do with actuall gameplay, how many games out there have we seen that are just WoW with a couple of tweaks...the majority of games in the industry you can't define a industry by a couple of titles. If you look at the console market there is way more innovation then the MMO industry , mostly because the games cost less , the creative people are not the problem its the financial side that has made so many clones out there.

  hence why kickstarter is becoming so popular, becauase there are tons of gamers like myself who are sick of the same old themepark games with one or two minor tweaks. Yes we are starting to see 'some' inovation in the MMO industry but its very little and only because the last couple of big budget wow copies fell flat on their face,  but for years it was the only thing being made and its still the majority.  Besides when a game starts with a subscription model and quickly moves to F2P its because the game flopped.

  Wizardry

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3/20/13 2:02:09 AM#24

Actually i don't think they suck,it is the unfinished and lack of effort they put into games that sucks.

I am quite sure that MOST of the bigger developers could develop an absolute masterpiece of a game.It is however greed and simple profit,that says NO,you will get what we decide and when we decide to give it to you,that ruins any chance of a great game.

BETA's are the biggest blemish going right now,they are not even real Beta's just pre order hype.It  is funny how developer's claim that they "listen to the gamers" and this si a Beta to assure quality of our product,then release the game with a definitive release date.How can any developer be trusted when thney have guarantee release dates,answer is,they CAN'T.

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3/20/13 2:11:51 AM#25
Whether true or not LB, poor taste, very poor taste. Regardless of their caliber, they are colleagues, show some respect for the medium at least. Now I picture him walking into the next conference he attends in a purple silk suit, a popped collar, while carrying himself like Tony Wonder from Arrested Development.

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  HeroEvermore

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3/20/13 2:16:44 AM#26

He is right 100%

You comment on him failing Tabula Rasa actually proves your point invalid as well. Tabula Rasa was something VERY different and thats what being a game designer is about. Even if you make an amazing popular succesful game like Blade and Soul for example. It does NOT MEAN its good from a game design stand, because you really did't bring much to the table besides a new online world. Something there are so many of. Change how the world reacts to me and I'll be impressed. That is exactly what Mr. Garriot inspires to do. Does it mean he cna single handedly pull that off? No and thats just how it is when so many wheels are turned to make a game. Posts like this just set the mmorpg back to WoW is the only game days. Innovation FTW.

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  Lobotomist

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3/20/13 2:17:07 AM#27
Originally posted by Volgore

I just stumbled upon this on PCGamer: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/19/richard-garriott-game-designers-suck/

I think for someone with a failed Tabula Rasa in his record and the need for a kickstarter for his new title, he is rolling up some heavy artillery there.

Have fun :)

 

Except that Tabula Rasa was actually quite good.

It was unfinished, and it severely lacked things to do - but what was there was at least 5 years ahead of its time.

Heck - we still dont have nothing like it.

Should we mention that he mostly invented MMO and sandbox MMO

Or his influence on RPGs in general.

 

He might be arrogant prick, but he is a great game designer and seriously loves games.

 

 

 

  aranha

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3/20/13 2:24:46 AM#28
Tabula Rasa was a trainwreck upon release. Lots of potential but a very poor execution. NCsoft only pushed very high quality games back then and TR was a disaster for their reputation.

I have no idea if Garriot messed up or NCsoft pushed his studio to the edge but judging on the very poor product he presented i wouldnt want that as a high quality publisher.
  aranha

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3/20/13 2:24:46 AM#29
Tabula Rasa was a trainwreck upon release. Lots of potential but a very poor execution. NCsoft only pushed very high quality games back then and TR was a disaster for their reputation.

I have no idea if Garriot messed up or NCsoft pushed his studio to the edge but judging on the very poor product he presented i wouldnt want that as a high quality publisher.
  Draemos

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3/20/13 2:31:03 AM#30

It's really hard for me to take him seriously when none of the "good" game designers he mentioned have put out a good game in over a decade.   

Will wright put out Spore, one of the biggest disappointments in gaming history, and Peter Molyneux has produced 3 half assed childish and underwhelming Fable games.

Chris Roberts hasn't had a game produced since Freelancer in 2003.

 

His whole rant sounds like the same thing you'd hear from some washed up jock talking about how the current league is terrible and "his generation" was way more talented... Despite evidence to the contrary. 

 

He is 100% correct about how game designers are actually the folks who just don't have the talent (whether it be art, programming, audio, etc) to do the heavy lifting.

  Wraithone

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3/20/13 11:27:17 AM#31
Originally posted by aranha
Tabula Rasa was a trainwreck upon release. Lots of potential but a very poor execution. NCsoft only pushed very high quality games back then and TR was a disaster for their reputation.

I have no idea if Garriot messed up or NCsoft pushed his studio to the edge but judging on the very poor product he presented i wouldnt want that as a high quality publisher.

Thanks for making my morning... I was laughing so hard, that I had to wait before I could respond... ^^  NCsoft is a "high quality publisher"???

You do realize that they've axed four or five western games at this point?  I seriously doubt that a "high quality publisher" would have made nearly that many mistakes, nor would they now have Nexon as a major investor... ^^

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-08/nexon-buys-685-million-stake-in-ncsoft-becomes-biggest-holder.html

Tabula Rasa was well before its time, and also pushed out way too soon.  But even with that, I found some aspects of it quite enjoyable.  If not for NCsofts political antics (which eventually cost them $32 million), and RG's focus on his trip to space (thus spliting his focus), it might well have turned out differently.

I played it from launch, until the last day.  In that time, the Dev's made many improvements, and if they had been given more time, I've little doubt it would have found a stable, loyal player base.  But life is filled with missed opportunities.

A well done fan video, showing many of the reasons, many of us enjoyed the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODmTeAplaM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3uUMME4m9w

 

  TheScavenger

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3/20/13 11:36:41 AM#32

NCsoft is the worst publisher known in the MMO industry. There is EA that a lot of people don't like, but I don't consider them MMO focused (just SWTOR)

 

However, NCsoft focuses only on MMOs as far as I know.

 

Lets see...favorite MMO...Auto Assault

 

NCsoft put all resources into Aion, refused to advertise for Auto Assault (but did massive advertising for Aion)...canned in a few months

 

Second favorite MMO, Tabula Rasa

 

Scammed Richard (and the courts went in his favor, so no matter what may or may not have happened, the jury found Richard to be the victim)...shut down TR in a few months. Again, because they wanted to focus on Aion

 

Third favorite MMO ever (every MMO NCsoft has published is in my top 3 favorite MMOs...rather funny (is ironic the right word for this?)...City of Heroes

 

it was making a PROFIT. Small, but was making a profit for them. Canned...for some unknown reason.

 

NCsoft hates western games, as seen in AA, TR and CoH. And why they focus almost entirely on eastern games (except GW and GW2, but GW1 has a lot of eastern themes, and GW2 is just an exception because it makes so much money)

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  nariusseldon

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3/20/13 11:39:14 AM#33
Originally posted by Lobotomist

He might be arrogant prick, but he is a great game designer and seriously loves games.

 

 

 

No .. "he WAS a great game designer" ... fixed.

 

  AIMonster

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3/20/13 12:29:33 PM#34
Originally posted by TheScavenger

NCsoft is the worst publisher known in the MMO industry. There is EA that a lot of people don't like, but I don't consider them MMO focused (just SWTOR)

 

However, NCsoft focuses only on MMOs as far as I know.

 

Lets see...favorite MMO...Auto Assault

 

NCsoft put all resources into Aion, refused to advertise for Auto Assault (but did massive advertising for Aion)...canned in a few months

 

Second favorite MMO, Tabula Rasa

 

Scammed Richard (and the courts went in his favor, so no matter what may or may not have happened, the jury found Richard to be the victim)...shut down TR in a few months. Again, because they wanted to focus on Aion

 

Third favorite MMO ever (every MMO NCsoft has published is in my top 3 favorite MMOs...rather funny (is ironic the right word for this?)...City of Heroes

 

it was making a PROFIT. Small, but was making a profit for them. Canned...for some unknown reason.

 

NCsoft hates western games, as seen in AA, TR and CoH. And why they focus almost entirely on eastern games (except GW and GW2, but GW1 has a lot of eastern themes, and GW2 is just an exception because it makes so much money)

EA is far worse.  SW:TOR is actually their best success.  They've cancelled a large number of MMO projects that never even saw the light of day:  Earth and Beyond, Motor City Online, a new Ultima MMO, that Dungeon Keeper MMO, that MMO based on Roman Mythlogy... Does anyone remember The Sims Online?  Hopefully not!  And Warhammer Online wasn't exactly a big success either.

NCSoft at least has Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 which are extremely successful well advertised WESTERN developed games, so I don't really think NCSoft "hates" western games.

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3/20/13 1:16:52 PM#35
Originally posted by Lobotomist
Originally posted by Volgore

I just stumbled upon this on PCGamer: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/19/richard-garriott-game-designers-suck/

I think for someone with a failed Tabula Rasa in his record and the need for a kickstarter for his new title, he is rolling up some heavy artillery there.

Have fun :)

 

Except that Tabula Rasa was actually quite good.

It was unfinished, and it severely lacked things to do - but what was there was at least 5 years ahead of its time.

Heck - we still dont have nothing like it.

Should we mention that he mostly invented MMO and sandbox MMO

Or his influence on RPGs in general.

 

He might be arrogant prick, but he is a great game designer and seriously loves games.

 

 

 

 

Mostly invented MMO. lol that is just so funny. lol.................
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3/20/13 1:50:14 PM#36
I dunno, it seems like the guy is living in "the good ol' days". His new game concept looks so 90's. I hope things work out for him, but I doubt I will find his game appealing.
  emperorwings

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3/20/13 1:52:16 PM#37
Tabula Rasa was actually a good game.

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3/20/13 2:03:56 PM#38

Hey now, he never said he wasn't on the list!

 

Honestly I see the publisher having more at fault then the designers... though its a good mix. Publishers put on certain 'stipulations', developers spend time possibly being to ambitious and ideas clash with the publisher and yeah... a huge mess ensues. 

 

I always felt its often a mix. A good game designer can easily be caught up in the mix and wanting the result to be something and taking so much time the product just falls flat. The publisher often is fixated on money money money so they can want certain elements in that tarnish the game and will push the game to be released 'quicker quicker quicker' which can also demean the end product. 

 

I do lean towards the developers side for the most part, but at the same time its quite easy to see how a project someone truely loves can end up failing taking too long and being to ambitious on that a publisher might need to push them to a deadline and let 'reality' set in.

 

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3/20/13 2:13:40 PM#39

Honestly, I don't think anyone should be making comments like this, with the possible exception to those who have proven themselves to be 'great game designers'.

This kinda arrogance usually just makes you look like a giant tool, and everytime someone has basically called out the rest of an industry for 'sucking' it's ALWAYS come back to bite them in the arse. While I would agree that there are a lot of bad game designers out there, I wouldn't say 'most', and I think a lot of people really don't understand what makes a good game designer anyway.

  Indol

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3/20/13 2:18:02 PM#40

The majority of games are uninspired and poorly designed. It's the nature of the ratio of talented to non-talented people in any field. The importance of talent is enhanced when it comes to design sensibility since it's something where you either have it or you don't, and no amount of school can change that.

 

There will always be far more hacks than there are genuine talents. This goes for any industry.

 

So again, he was just stating an obvious fact.

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