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  holdenhamlet

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OP  3/19/13 6:42:26 AM#1

Just wanted to let people know that the game is doing really well now that it's gone f2p.  I've avoided f2p games in the past because generally the quality is not there, but TERA has always been a notch above most MMORPGs since its release, and the handling of the transition to free-to-play is no exception.

As many are aware, the thing that really seperates the game is that it's based on the Unreal Engine, which has been refined for many years for multiplayer action combat.  Using that engine for an RPG was a stroke of genius.

Some people say it's a grind, but in reality all MMORPGs are grinds, it's just that in TERA you actually have fun while you're doing it (not to mention there is no horrible grinding on the same modeled NPC over and over like is found in most games- there are tons of unique mobs and each of them have different attacks specialized for what kind of monster they are).

There is only one BG.  That's right, just one.  And guess what?  It's fun pretty much every time.  Because the variety is the style that each player brings to the diverse classes.  

I've been 60 for months on end and there is no end to stuff to do.  There are tons of dungeons to join, random PVP battles between guilds, the BG I mentioned, and now Nexus has been tweeked so it's actually playable by limiting the amount of people to 120 in an area at a time.

Finally, the ft2p economy is functioning completely as intended in TERA.  I myself have yet to spend any money since it went f2p but have been able to obtain costume pieces I've wanted because the items are sellable on the AH.  This means that there's no reason for illicit 3rd party gold-traders spamming chat- the mechanism for gold farmers to make real money is incorporated into the game.

But unlike most games, no matter how much money you have either in gold or dollars, you're still going to have to work for the best items, and because TERA is action-oriented, what really matters is your skill and attention you pay to each battle.

All in all the game is the best executed MMO I've ever seen, and DEVs are still active producing new content and improving older content (like the recent fix to Nexus).  Highly recommended for anyone that enjoys online role-playing games and action-packed combat.

  kiddoujanse

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3/19/13 6:49:04 AM#2

hmmm theres gonna be a bot/hacking problem soon enough, and honestly tera is not producing content fast LOL, the only thing they're doing fast is balancing classes and fixing bugs, new content? no, it takes months.

but i do like the game very fun

  Ppiper

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3/19/13 6:53:09 AM#3
oh, yeah, nothing like grinding for RNG Enchantments, real fun there.
  RollieJoe

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3/19/13 6:57:57 AM#4

The combat in TERA is hand down, the best in any MMO made to date IMO.   But the grind for random enchantments and random mods and random rep rewards and random EVERYTHING, really, really sucks.  And it is a huge grind. 

 

That said, I'm still playing it atm, the combat is amazing.

  holdenhamlet

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OP  3/19/13 6:58:42 AM#5
Originally posted by Ppiper
oh, yeah, nothing like grinding for RNG Enchantments, real fun there.

I've heard of people having horrible luck enchanting but I have full +9 gear and I didn't fail an unreasonable amount of times getting it.

There's plenty of ways to make gold in the game.  If you only do one way and make it into a grind, then you're really making the game unfun for yourself, not to mention gimping yourself in other areas of the game.

As for the other guy, well I kind of wish they'd spend some time balancing classes.  Lancers are just ridiculous in PVP in my opinion.

But all in all, it's probably the single MMORPG I've ever played WITHOUT a "gimp class".  No matter what you choose, you will be able to contribute meaningfully in pvp and pve.

  Dibdabs

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3/19/13 7:24:02 AM#6
If this game "Rocks now more than ever" it must have been really, really bad prior to this.  It's just another tedious rehash of every MMO we've seen since UO and EQ.  The combat is nothing special, the quests are cookie-cutter "kill X of X" and the classes are just insipid.  No wonder it went free to play so fast - it just isn't worth paying for.
  Pivotelite

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3/19/13 2:32:34 PM#7
Originally posted by Dibdabs
 The combat is nothing special

 People only say this when they haven't done level 60 hardmodes.

 

One failed block or dodge = dead, and it's entirely your fault if you die, that kind of combat just doesnt exist in most MMOs. It's also extremely fast paced and tactical, in PvP especially, I have to watch all of my opponents animations and cancel them with my stagger attacks before they manage to cast them, also need to watch their animations to dodge sleeps/stuns. Very interactive.

 

As bad as the systems in TERA are, the combat is so exceptional it keeps myself and many friends playing no matter how much we complain about the stupid Korean mechanics and design choices.

  Eir_S

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3/19/13 2:39:20 PM#8

It's not my favorite MMO ever, but the fact that I'm playing it again and for more than a few hours says it's worth my time... probably.  I thought the same thing about WAR and Rift, and maybe I don't like the combat as much as I like GW2's but it's actually pretty fun.  Unfortunately, it seems that it really mimicks Aion in length of time it takes to kill something your level or higher.  I'm not sure I want to spend 30 minutes on one BAM. lol

To be fair though, most games see a drastic upswing in new players after going F2P, the question is: will it last?

  Karelia

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3/19/13 2:50:43 PM#9

playing TERA since it went f2p. i m more tha satisfied with the f2p model they implement. i like the game more than i thought i would. very nice graphics, excellent combat, good looking world, nice ah & economy, GvG, dungeons/bams/raid, very good ui, lfg, nice crafting etc.

all in all is a very nice game. adding the excellent f2p model makes it even better :)

  DamonVile

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3/19/13 2:58:30 PM#10
Originally posted by Eir_S

 it seems that it really mimicks Aion in length of time it takes to kill something your level or higher.  I'm not sure I want to spend 30 minutes on one BAM. lol

 

They're called 5 man quests because of the time it takes to kill one. If you're good at fighting you can solo most of them but you still have to overcome the fact that they are scaled for 5 man parties.

I'm sure if they ever do add more content we'd see a lot more 3 and 2 man bams. Most of the newer areas all have them and are for more solo friendly time wise while still giving smaller groups something to go after.

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  waynejr2

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3/19/13 3:03:24 PM#11
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Dibdabs
 The combat is nothing special

 People only say this when they haven't done level 60 hardmodes.

 

One failed block or dodge = dead, and it's entirely your fault if you die, that kind of combat just doesnt exist in most MMOs. It's also extremely fast paced and tactical, in PvP especially, I have to watch all of my opponents animations and cancel them with my stagger attacks before they manage to cast them, also need to watch their animations to dodge sleeps/stuns. Very interactive.

 

As bad as the systems in TERA are, the combat is so exceptional it keeps myself and many friends playing no matter how much we complain about the stupid Korean mechanics and design choices.

 If a game can't sell a player on it's qualities in the first hour, it's not a good sign.  It's worse when the fans of the game suggest you have to make it to level 60 and do hard modes to see the good in the game.  FAIL.

  Talonsin

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3/19/13 3:11:57 PM#12

I jumped back in and am having a lot of fun.  I'm not at the max level yet and I have not had to spend any money yet.  You move through zones pretty fast so I have not gotten bored of any location yet like I did in Wow.  I really enjoy the combat and being able to actually block or avoid attacks.  The new F2P model rocks.  I understand some people having issues with the grind but the new F2P model doesnt leave a lot of room for complaints.  It is about as totally free as you are going to get without a company going bankrupt.

 

  DamonVile

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3/19/13 3:14:35 PM#13
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Dibdabs
 The combat is nothing special

 People only say this when they haven't done level 60 hardmodes.

 

One failed block or dodge = dead, and it's entirely your fault if you die, that kind of combat just doesnt exist in most MMOs. It's also extremely fast paced and tactical, in PvP especially, I have to watch all of my opponents animations and cancel them with my stagger attacks before they manage to cast them, also need to watch their animations to dodge sleeps/stuns. Very interactive.

 

As bad as the systems in TERA are, the combat is so exceptional it keeps myself and many friends playing no matter how much we complain about the stupid Korean mechanics and design choices.

 If a game can't sell a player on it's qualities in the first hour, it's not a good sign.  It's worse when the fans of the game suggest you have to make it to level 60 and do hard modes to see the good in the game.  FAIL.

The combat is skill based and unlike most mmos. It gets harder as you progress because the game is teaching you as you go. ( bams swing harder, faster and more often as you lvl ) His comment meant you can't say the combat is nothing special untill you've tried it at its hardest lvl. People who are lvl 10 saying the combat is too easy are like people who set a game to easy and say it's a bad game because it was easy.

If the game started you off like lvl 60 bams fight, most people wouldn't get past the starter isle. People tend to take falure when trying to do something in  a game as a sign of poor game design and quit if it happens too often.

People are like cats. When they die, you get a new one.

  Eir_S

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3/19/13 3:40:32 PM#14
Originally posted by DamonVile

If the game started you off like lvl 60 bams fight, most people wouldn't get past the starter isle. People tend to take falure when trying to do something in  a game as a sign of poor game design and quit if it happens too often.

Well everyone I know quits before they finish the starter island and it has nothing to do with the combat.  They think the game is designed poorly for other reasons, but they don't seem to have a problem with the combat.

  Pivotelite

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3/19/13 3:51:19 PM#15
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Dibdabs
 The combat is nothing special

 People only say this when they haven't done level 60 hardmodes.

 

One failed block or dodge = dead, and it's entirely your fault if you die, that kind of combat just doesnt exist in most MMOs. It's also extremely fast paced and tactical, in PvP especially, I have to watch all of my opponents animations and cancel them with my stagger attacks before they manage to cast them, also need to watch their animations to dodge sleeps/stuns. Very interactive.

 

As bad as the systems in TERA are, the combat is so exceptional it keeps myself and many friends playing no matter how much we complain about the stupid Korean mechanics and design choices.

 If a game can't sell a player on it's qualities in the first hour, it's not a good sign.  It's worse when the fans of the game suggest you have to make it to level 60 and do hard modes to see the good in the game.  FAIL.

TERA was nerfed over and over and over again just like every other MMO, when it released in Korea even normal mobs would destroy you and it put people off the game, they eventually nerfed normal mobs, then nerfed BAMs, then nerfed elite quest mobs. Thats what the genre became, its casual and theres nothing we can do about it because if you make something hard everyone complains. BAMs were recently nerfed AGAIN in KTERA, luckily in NA we complained non-stop on the forums and EME actually fought and the changes were not brought over here.

 

While I dont agree with TERAs form of progression because it makes the low levels way too limiting, at least it has progression. GW2 felt the same at level 20 and level 80. In TERA you start off with few skills, no rooting cancelling skill, no attack speed on weapons and no attack speed on glyphs. You don't get all your skills until 60, you generally dont get attack speed weapons until 40 and double attack speed until 60, you dont get glyphs until 20 and you dont get good glyphs until 60.

 

Its unfortunate you start that way and that so many people are turned off by it.

  Torvaldr

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3/19/13 4:06:05 PM#16

I do like the combat.  In fact I started playing it for the combat plus the mob and item farming.  I'm having a lot of fun with that.  I'm level 38 on my archer.

This is probably my favorite F2P model and has my favorite subscription structure.  I'm subbed for now because it's a great leveling and monetary boost.  The elite mount for this month is that big cat and it's awesome.  I might have to buy that one.

 

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  aesperus

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3/19/13 4:08:35 PM#17
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by DamonVile

If the game started you off like lvl 60 bams fight, most people wouldn't get past the starter isle. People tend to take falure when trying to do something in  a game as a sign of poor game design and quit if it happens too often.

Well everyone I know quits before they finish the starter island and it has nothing to do with the combat.  They think the game is designed poorly for other reasons, but they don't seem to have a problem with the combat.

That's basically TERA in a nutshell though.

Pretty fun combat, put into one of the blandest games ever made. BAMs CAN be fun, but when soloing it tends to become less of a trial of skill, and more of a trial of patience (how long can I fight the same monster before I get bored?), as many of them take quite a long time to kill by yourself, unless you're fairly over-lvled.

The emphasis on grind-based questing doesn't help it either. It's literally kill x -> kill x -> kill x -> kill x -> ad naseum. I think that's the biggest turn off for most people. And no, that doesn't change at higher lvls at all. Honestly, I'm still trying to give this game a fair shot, but lately I find myself hoping I'm a high enough lvl to do the next dungeon. Everytime I hit that 'dry spell' where I'm too high for the previous, and too low for the next, I get really burnt out on the lvl grinding.

It's a fun enough game for what it is, but it's still basically lineage, minus some of lineage's more interesting features. If they ever manage to add more to this game (and possibly do more w/ the political system) it could be a really impressive game. However, right now it's still pretty basic.

  Agrias34

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3/19/13 4:09:26 PM#18
I think you might want to spellcheck before posting your message.  Pretty sure you meant to say the word SUCKS instead of rocks.
  Yamota

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3/19/13 4:18:47 PM#19

The game has awesome GFX and fun combat as well as interesting classes. However, there is virtually no customization so every character of class X is virtually identical to another of the same class. You can enchance your skills but the differences are not very noticeable.

Also the game felt extremely linear with only one leveling path from 1-60. Almost no alternative paths at all! Pretty bad if you ask me.

Finally the game has, or had, PvP servers but very little open world PvP occured because there is virtually no incentives for it. I heard Guild vs Guild battles did occur but only at level cap. This means that you are doing almost exclusively PvE from 1-59. Again, for a PvPer, that is pretty bad...

  Torvaldr

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3/19/13 4:18:54 PM#20
Originally posted by aesperus

That's basically TERA in a nutshell though.

Pretty fun combat, put into one of the blandest games ever made. BAMs CAN be fun, but when soloing it tends to become less of a trial of skill, and more of a trial of patience (how long can I fight the same monster before I get bored?), as many of them take quite a long time to kill by yourself, unless you're fairly over-lvled.

The emphasis on grind-based questing doesn't help it either. It's literally kill x -> kill x -> kill x -> kill x -> ad naseum. I think that's the biggest turn off for most people. And no, that doesn't change at higher lvls at all. Honestly, I'm still trying to give this game a fair shot, but lately I find myself hoping I'm a high enough lvl to do the next dungeon. Everytime I hit that 'dry spell' where I'm too high for the previous, and too low for the next, I get really burnt out on the lvl grinding.

It's a fun enough game for what it is, but it's still basically lineage, minus some of lineage's more interesting features. If they ever manage to add more to this game (and possibly do more w/ the political system) it could be a really impressive game. However, right now it's still pretty basic.

That's pretty much why I'm playing it.  I miss that game a lot and just having the mob/item farming aspect satisfies me for now.

I do agree though, it's a pared down shadow of Lineage, but it has a lot of potential.  EME really does seem to make a huge effort with events and such and the business model is one I really want to promote.  I would love to see some of my other sub-free games move this direction (EQ2, LotRO) where your sub and the cash shop buff you.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

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