I can see subs working for this game, but on the other hand, sub games have such a hard time succeeding.

I can also see a buy to play with an in-game shop for boosters and cosmetics, and paid future content (zones, levels etc) possibly being more successful.

May I also go out on a limb and say that not EVERY new MMO that comes out needs to be $15 a month. It was an abritrary number Sony made up with EQ and Blizzard stuck with the price. I'm sure $5-10/month would still be very profitable for them.

Originally posted by hardy83

I can see subs working for this game, but on the other hand, sub games have such a hard time succeeding.

I can also see a buy to play with an in-game shop for boosters and cosmetics, and paid future content (zones, levels etc) possibly being more successful.

May I also go out on a limb and say that not EVERY new MMO that comes out needs to be $15 a month. It was an abritrary number Sony made up with EQ and Blizzard stuck with the price. I'm sure $5-10/month would still be very profitable for them.

you are right.

i think that giving 50-60$ to buy the game + 5$ every month is more than enough to make profit. you may add the income of a yearly expansion at around 35-40$. dont forget that even sub based games have also shops and payed services like char name-race-faction change / server transfer etc.

so yes 5$ / month is highly profitable

Originally posted by Piiritus
No idea so far but personally I hope it will be a sub based game. Freaking hate cash shops, even if they are not p2w.

The only problem with that is recently sub doesn't guarantee lack of cash shop. They want to double and tripple-dip and I can't really imagine them not doing some kind of vanity micro transactions (and of course micro transactions for server switches, name changes and all that other overpriced stuff that somehow doesn't bother anyone...) 

Originally posted by hardy83

I can see subs working for this game, but on the other hand, sub games have such a hard time succeeding.

I can also see a buy to play with an in-game shop for boosters and cosmetics, and paid future content (zones, levels etc) possibly being more successful.

May I also go out on a limb and say that not EVERY new MMO that comes out needs to be $15 a month. It was an abritrary number Sony made up with EQ and Blizzard stuck with the price. I'm sure $5-10/month would still be very profitable for them.

Actually, Subscription price for MMOs was $9.99mo until SWG released. That was the game that pushed the price to $14.99mo

Was Everquest one of the first games to have a sucessful subscription based model?  I know the game has been out 14 years.  I would think WOW probably holds the record  for the most subscriptions at its high point.

Anyways, the $15 a month model was something established back then.  I do agree, if your game is "Good" I think you can use a subscription model in the $5-10 range per month and still be profitable.

Originally posted by CthulhuPuffs

Originally posted by hardy83

I can see subs working for this game, but on the other hand, sub games have such a hard time succeeding.

I can also see a buy to play with an in-game shop for boosters and cosmetics, and paid future content (zones, levels etc) possibly being more successful.

May I also go out on a limb and say that not EVERY new MMO that comes out needs to be $15 a month. It was an abritrary number Sony made up with EQ and Blizzard stuck with the price. I'm sure $5-10/month would still be very profitable for them.

Actually, Subscription price for MMOs was $9.99mo until SWG released. That was the game that pushed the price to $14.99mo

Actually, Dark Age of Camelot came out a couple years before SWG, and it had the $15/month fee. It's the first one I've seen with it.

Hope it's b2p.  With  the way mmo's are these days I just can't justify paying 60 plus 10-15 a month for a game that's probably not going to be much different then any other mmo out already.  Sure there will be some things different, mainly graphics  and setting I bet. People need to get away from the mentality that if a game charges a monthly sub its going to be better, it's often proven wrong.

F2p  just annoys me.  We have 13 classes and 10 different races to chose from. 3 races are free, humans, half elves, and elves, everything else costs you, etc. 

B2p is middle of the road. Buy the game, some cosmetic and fluff items in an item shop. No sub, so no feeling of having to play, no having to buy just about everything to do anything.

just my opinion tho.

Originally posted by Ghavrigg

Originally posted by CthulhuPuffs

Originally posted by hardy83

I can see subs working for this game, but on the other hand, sub games have such a hard time succeeding.

I can also see a buy to play with an in-game shop for boosters and cosmetics, and paid future content (zones, levels etc) possibly being more successful.

May I also go out on a limb and say that not EVERY new MMO that comes out needs to be $15 a month. It was an abritrary number Sony made up with EQ and Blizzard stuck with the price. I'm sure $5-10/month would still be very profitable for them.

Actually, Subscription price for MMOs was $9.99mo until SWG released. That was the game that pushed the price to $14.99mo

Actually, Dark Age of Camelot came out a couple years before SWG, and it had the $15/month fee. It's the first one I've seen with it.

Dark Age of Camelot original subscription fee of $12.95.  Raised to $14.95 on February 3, 2005.

WoW released November 2004, with a fee of $14.99 per month.

Everquest raises subscription fee from $12.99 to $14.99 June 2005.

SWG, releases June 2003, $14.99 per month.

SWG wins!  Followed by WoW, then DaoC, then Everquest ... although by playing DaoC you could save 4 cents (you get what you pay for).

prolly it ll be B2P with cash shop

With time , cash shop ll offer P2W stuff,companies making games not for our fun ,they looking way to get money

P2p  or B2p both will have cash shop. so i will go fo B2p.

Anyway its been years that all Elder scroll game are B2p and people are ok with that. i think its will continue like so, and  to get both fan of mmo and the elder scroll  series i think this model could be the best for them.