Originally posted by xeniar

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by xeniar

 

You can quite whenever you wants and you don't want to wait but you wont hesisitate to make other people wait on you.

its al you you you you you you. go play your SP games man begone.

It is my entertainment .. of course it is me, me, me .. what do you expect? Play games to entertain you?

And i am going to play a MMO tonight with that attitude. There is really nothing you can do about it.

 

yeah its your entertainment but your playing with OTHER people. U my friend are a Jerk plain and simple. i wonder how life is treating u out there. ah and skip the friend part we could never be.

So you agree that there is nothing you can do? Life is treating me very well. There are tons of games i like, and the trends of the industry seem to go in the direction i like. And i still haven't mentioned other types of entertainmetn i like.

How is life treating you?

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Phelcher

Thus, since it has happened often for you, enough to leave a mark, that it is now a top priority for u when choosing a new game. U feel inadaquate compared to those who powergame thru content you tackle casually. Thing is... you are the only one who cares.

In order to feel inadequate, one would have to give a shit about anyone else playing the game.  I don't.  I'm not remotely competitive.  I'm happy soloing.

Typical assumption of competitive people is that they think everyone is competitive.

And even when told you're not competitive, they can't believe it.  MMOs have turned into a massive dick-waving clusterfuck, with everyone trying to pretend they're hot shit in an online world.

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by xeniar

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by xeniar

 

You can quite whenever you wants and you don't want to wait but you wont hesisitate to make other people wait on you.

its al you you you you you you. go play your SP games man begone.

It is my entertainment .. of course it is me, me, me .. what do you expect? Play games to entertain you?

And i am going to play a MMO tonight with that attitude. There is really nothing you can do about it.

 

yeah its your entertainment but your playing with OTHER people. U my friend are a Jerk plain and simple. i wonder how life is treating u out there. ah and skip the friend part we could never be.

So you agree that there is nothing you can do? Life is treating me very well. There are tons of games i like, and the trends of the industry seem to go in the direction i like. And i still haven't mentioned other types of entertainmetn i like.

How is life treating you?

 

What trends in the industry..?

Do you mean the ones you've keep repeatedly bring up here, that is 100% unsubstantiated. Only that you use public figures and skew them to maintain your troll..  THose?

Or, the brief foray of sinking ships going free to play, & other cheap things going on (as of late) within the industry, as the industry tries to right-size itself, after the massive flux of WoW refugee entering & re-entering the market..?

Narius, there are people here who have a much better pulse on the gaming industry, than you. And  specifically the MMO & MMORPG industry.

You seem very ignorant of a great bit of history, progeny and the building blocks. You do not understand what makes a succesful MMORPG, so you dable with ideas...  because your a market/business man, here to market. Not discuss as an end-user/player.. 

So again, make no mistake dude, you have a pattern about your posts and EVERYONE HERE... knows your a data marketer. You obsessiveness about "trends" in the video game industry is all but obvious and a worn out topic...   but not only are you so broad, you speak in MMO terms, not MMORPG terms.

THen, ignorantly assume that MMO = MMORPG, after being reminded in everyone of your post that they are different. Then, to futher prove your not a MMORPG player, you go on to incessantly tell us that you don't need other players, don't want other players & that you are typically a solo player. Who recently claimed that you don't pay for any games, because F2P is the way to go... etc.

You...   nor Your playstyle mirrors (in anyway) the typical MMO, or even the typical MMORPG player. You are an oddity and think/want everyone to have meaninglyless play like you. Because you are incapable of comitment to a hobby, thus ur arcade. 

Nothing you say hold water dude. just stop thread-craping. You are in the wrong forum, or on the wrong website. Kiddie arcade games are a dime a dozen... most free as apps on phone.

If i can skip it then i will skip , human are lazy lol.

But if game don't give me any work after i "skip" to max level then i will quit.

No work left then i don't have any reason to play it anymore.

And i want to make it clean between "hunt" and "grind"

"grind" is a worst , no one want to grind. If they can skip it , then they will.

But "hunt" is an enjoyment , you do it to fun.

And there are critical fail in the OP.

That

IF a MMO give player chose to "skip" they grind then it not an Exp  "grind" game anymore.

And for the term "grind mob" , it mean alot. You also earn gear and gold by grind mob.

So

Even if you give player chose to "skip" , they still have to grind more monster for gear and gold.

In the end , player still have to grind , and grind bring joy for them lol.

Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Ortwig

Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Phelcher

Thus, since it has happened often for you, enough to leave a mark, that it is now a top priority for u when choosing a new game. U feel inadaquate compared to those who powergame thru content you tackle casually. Thing is... you are the only one who cares.

In order to feel inadequate, one would have to give a shit about anyone else playing the game.  I don't.  I'm not remotely competitive.  I'm happy soloing.

Typical assumption of competitive people is that they think everyone is competitive.

And even when told you're not competitive, they can't believe it.  MMOs have turned into a massive dick-waving clusterfuck, with everyone trying to pretend they're hot shit in an online world.

Just how human nature works. Games provide an illusion of achievement.

There is an unsspoken challange... To find  the  BEST  and  Fastest  way  to  level...

people spend  days   just  looking  for  more efiecent  ways  to  "Beat the  Grind".. 

Some are  Very  creative .. !

Once again please check out the Bartle Test. Achievers by definition prefer the grind, they get a sense of achievement from it. Same may also apply to Explorers, They like to get around and some areas may require them to level to enter or reach a spot. So they are ok with the grind or time sink or “Work” aspect of the game. The opposite side of the coin are the Killers and socializers, normally mortal enemies they are both about seeking instant gratification.

There is a type of killer we may have all seen. The constant PvPer. This killer levels their toon at PvP and nothing else. If the game doesn’t give xp for pvp they don’t play it. Their only goal is to be the most deadly toon on the server. Leveling and the grind is the worst, this is their toon at its weakest. If they could jump in at max level and max pvp gear they would take it.

The Socializer spends their time at the social hub, be it a capital city general chat or “The Barrens”. The SWG Entertainer was the perfect class for this type. It could be leveled afdk in the background leaving the player free to chat and focus on the chat window. This type of player is mostly concerned with fashion and style, and will only level to wear fashion that requires a level.

So basically half the player types will want the grind and the other half will not. Now I am not saying that half of the community total. Life is a journey, struggle, and a chore. We have come to expect the same thing from our games. Oh we also want free things, but we don’t value free things we just want them.

I propose that a game that diminishes the grind will seem like a free thing. Therefore it will not be valued. The grind may be hated, but it is how we determine value.