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  Kyleran

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OP  3/15/13 8:59:45 AM#1

Question for the tech folks out there.  I know faster is better, and FIOS is offering to upgrade my internet to 50/25 Mbps Download/Upload speed for $10.00 a month.

But the question is, do I really need this?  I currently am at like 20/5 or something, I don't download alot of videos or anything nor do I notice an issue when multiple users are online at my house. (up to 6 people gaming at a time).

So should I spring for it?  I know its only 10.00 a  month, but hey, that would be 2/3rds of a MMORPG sub fee but why spend more if there's no real benefit other than it seems cool?

I should mention, I don't run power gaming rigs, in fact mine is a rather slow gaming laptop. I hope to upgrade later this year, but still will be spending no more than $2K on my next laptop.

 

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  Nadia

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3/15/13 9:05:09 AM#2

do you need it?  no

 

would i get it if i was in your shoes? 

yes -- because it speeds up lengthy downloads if I wanted to try some 20 gig game

  Ppiper

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3/15/13 9:06:44 AM#3
I wouldn't bother unless I had others in my home sharing my bandwidth, otherwse no.
  ShinseiYama

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3/15/13 9:08:31 AM#4

No you dont need more for gaming, all you can get is extra shaved miliseconds when gaming which is not that much.

But since its that cheap, for me i would just take it i guess, and if you decide to stream well you can stream perfect quality, not to mention extra DL speed.

If you can afford buy if you bit tight no need.

  BitterClinger

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3/15/13 9:09:56 AM#5

You really only need that kind of speed for streaming HD content. When it comes to online gaming, latency (or "ping") is much more important than bandwidth. What you have now is perfectly adequate in that regard.

EXCEPTION: This assumes that you do not have a bunch of other devices bursting your current connection. In other words, if you have some number of family members/roommates, each trying to stream HD content or downloading music/movies on their own devices, then that could "fill" your bandwidth. That situation can negatively impact your latency.

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  SlickShoes

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3/15/13 9:11:08 AM#6

I would say it is not worth the money, if you have the $10 spare and MUST have a faster connection for some reason then go ahead.

I wish I could get that sort of speed, here in the UK  I get 19 DOWN and 0.9 UP!

  Grunty

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3/15/13 9:14:26 AM#7

Absolutely not.

Most online game normally  send and receive data at less than 128 kb/second. Thats kilobits per second.

In some instances it can be beneficial to have a few mb/second speeds for game play.

Downloading patches and such is a different story.

What other people are doing on the segment you are on will have a greater impact on gaming than doubling the bandwidth you're receiving now.  It could be even more evident if  you do get that increase. At least during patching 

  Alders

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3/15/13 9:17:17 AM#8
Originally posted by BitterClinger

You really only need that kind of speed for streaming HD content. 

 

This right here.

  Kyleran

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OP  3/15/13 9:18:35 AM#9

Would it speed up my downloads of large game files, i.e. these 20gb+ downloads we have these days that can take all night (12+hrs) to download?  I always assumed that was more a limitation of the site I was downloading from, (I don't torrent) rather than my internet connection.

 

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  Grunty

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3/15/13 9:24:37 AM#10
Originally posted by Kyleran

Would it speed up my downloads of large game files, i.e. these 20gb+ downloads we have these days that can take all night (12+hrs) to download?  I always assumed that was more a limitation of the site I was downloading from, (I don't torrent) rather than my internet connection.

 

That is controlled by the other end. When patch day comes around they will try to maximize the download for the majority of people. That could mean limiting the maximum download speed of individual with fat pipes. It's something you would have no control over.

  grimal

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3/15/13 9:28:33 AM#11

No.  Unless the other end is uploading at 50 to you specifically, you won't see that speed.

However, I'd get it just b/c I like to be the fastest on the block.

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  BitterClinger

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3/15/13 9:31:42 AM#12
Originally posted by Kyleran

Would it speed up my downloads of large game files, i.e. these 20gb+ downloads we have these days that can take all night (12+hrs) to download?  I always assumed that was more a limitation of the site I was downloading from, (I don't torrent) rather than my internet connection.

 

As Grunty pointed out, that is not entirely under your control, but for most mainstream content providers (including online game companies); the answer is a resounding YES. I upgraded from a 15/5 to 25/25 about 18 months ago, and the difference it made in download speeds are significant. I probably only download a couple games a month (if that), but I am downloading DVD ISO images (2-4 GB) from MSDN (Microsoft) pretty regularly. It just made a lot of difference for me.

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  birdycephon

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3/15/13 10:18:48 AM#13
Only need it if you have multiple users at the same time, and you want to play CoD or something fast paced like that.
  expresso

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3/15/13 10:21:41 AM#14
the 25mbps upload would be good for 1080p livestreams and youtube uploads, takes me 7 hours to upload a 20mins 1080p video to youtube on my 1mbps upload at the moment.
  Kyleran

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OP  3/15/13 10:24:41 AM#15

OK, since the cost is so small and there does seem to be some good reasons to spring for it even if it doesn't directly improve my actual game playing experience.

Thanks for all the advice folks, I am going to order it today.

 

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  anemo

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3/15/13 10:25:38 AM#16

You only need a stable connection for Gaming.

Most games operate at the 5KB/s to 15KB/s.   Unless you're playing something like Secondlife that dynamically streams content and reaches towards 100MB/s if you let it, you won't notice a thing.

However considering most people download PC games now it would be nice for those nice couple of times a month.

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  Quizzical

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3/15/13 11:20:05 AM#17
During typical gameplay, an MMORPG will use several KB/s.  Not MB/s.  KB/s.  And yes, that's as opposed to tens of KB/s.  The only gaming benefit of more bandwidth than what you have is that some games may download or patch faster, depending on whether the bottleneck is on your end or not.
  Ujirik

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3/15/13 11:30:52 AM#18
You don't need those speeds for gaming, but you could get in the game faster if you download a lot of games. I think you should get it if you download new games frequently.

  Reizla

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3/15/13 11:35:17 AM#19
Originally posted by Nadia

do you need it?  no

 

would i get it if i was in your shoes? 

yes -- because it speeds up lengthy downloads if I wanted to try some 20 gig game

Agree on the NO for the need, but get it..? OP told he's not downloading a lot, and if he downloads a 20Gb game a month, it'll be only 90 minutes max to download. I'd say I'd be fine with that then....

I personally upgraded from 8Mbps to 30Mpbs late last year, and that was indeed a NEED (3 PC's, 2 gamers, 2 uploaders to YouTube and 1 heavy YouTube viewer). If I can upgrade now to 50Mpbs, I'd probably say no to it, even if it's only €10 a month extra. We're not really neededing the extra speed. And I think the same goes for OP. With that, that $10/month he can use on games again ;-)

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3/15/13 11:44:09 AM#20

Not for gaming. Streaming and downloading/uploading maybe.

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