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  Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3575

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

3/14/13 11:01:05 AM#61
Originally posted by bill4747
Originally posted by General_Dru-Zod

You're excited because you know the A.I will be better than Skyrim

 

Skyrim has AI?

Who knew??... ^^  I plan to try TESO, if for nothing else, than just to see how it plays.

  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3508

3/14/13 11:03:08 AM#62
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

Going against my better judgment I will reply to this. New does not mean better. Matter of FACT!!!!! Over the past 6-8 years compnies keep trying to remake what made MMOs awesome and most have failed. Few exceptions to that rule like EVE but thats not the norm. The drive to grassroots is something devs are seeing as needed to make MMOs function again. Sure keep the modern twists like VO acting but the core of what made MMO great needs to be really looked at. Want awesome PvP, well lets look at what really worked. What game had the best faction pride, lets look at what game did that and how that happened. Want an awesome temepark MMO, again lets look at what made things like WoW really work. Core models need to be looked at as a whole. Not slapped together like frankenstein hack job and say, WE HAVE LIFE!!!! Ya smart devs!!!! 

Trolls feed on attention.  If you ignore his hate, he won't get the attention that drives him.  I just report, and give a couple lines of explanation as to the disruptive, non-productive history of the user.  Enough of those, and the mods will get the idea.

Ya I have stopped replying to most of his posts but once in a while he asks a question and seems to be ready for a converstaion and I fall for it lol. 

  Maelwydd

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 1169

3/14/13 11:04:06 AM#63
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

Going against my better judgment I will reply to this. New does not mean better. Matter of FACT!!!!! Over the past 6-8 years compnies keep trying to remake what made MMOs awesome and most have failed. Few exceptions to that rule like EVE but thats not the norm. The drive to grassroots is something devs are seeing as needed to make MMOs function again. Sure keep the modern twists like VO acting but the core of what made MMO great needs to be really looked at. Want awesome PvP, well lets look at what really worked. What game had the best faction pride, lets look at what game did that and how that happened. Want an awesome temepark MMO, again lets look at what made things like WoW really work. Core models need to be looked at as a whole. Not slapped together like frankenstein hack job and say, WE HAVE LIFE!!!! Ya smart devs!!!! 

Do you even read the posts you write all thess visual messes to?

Your post has nothing to do with what I wrote or what the OP wrote. You just see a post by me and write your shit, doesn't matter if you are writing in reply to my post or not. Seriously, stop fucking trolling!

No he answered you. Reading comprehension 101 ftw... and speaking of trolling...aren't you the one who is trolling him with your quote in your signature?

The OP says TESO is closer to Skyrim then ANY other MMO.

TESO is not using anything that isn't already being used in an MMO.

So tell me, how on earth can it be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO if it uses has same functionality?

So sorry but he doesn't have a point, neither do you.

 

  Nanfoodle

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3508

3/14/13 11:06:24 AM#64
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by bill4747
Originally posted by General_Dru-Zod

You're excited because you know the A.I will be better than Skyrim

 

Skyrim has AI?

Who knew??... ^^  I plan to try TESO, if for nothing else, than just to see how it plays.

The AI sounds really indepth in ESO. Everything from NPCs assisting eachother. Skills working off eachother. Changing tatics depending on what set of players they face off with (classes) Even things like a NPC wizard makes a ice wall to stand behind not to get hit, so the healer runs over to hide behind it as well.

  Wraithone

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3575

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

3/14/13 11:08:13 AM#65
Originally posted by Velocinox
Originally posted by bill4747

ESO will not be Skyrim Online.

 

But, I believe it will be closer to Skyrim Online than any other mmorpg will be.

 

Translate:

ESO will not be Skyrim Online.

 

But I choose to disregard that and fly off on the wings of my imagination, thinking about all the liitle cups and brooms I will pick up in TESO, and how they will change their minds and make the very first single player focused game for thousands of people at once! Oh how my rose colored glasses can see that pie in the sky so very, very clearly.

 

Why do you people do this to yourselves? They have been very specific. This will NOT be the online version of the single player game, You can't mix the two. Many of the reasons you love the TES series will NOT translate over to an MMO experience where they have to consider the needs of thousands of people all at once and not just YOU.

You're going to turn this into some golden dream of yours that no game can live up to and when reality comes and kicks in your door and sits on your chest to tell you how wrong you have been, you're going to blame the devs for 'lying' to you and not living up to the TES goal... I can hear the future, angst driven echoes of 'BOYCOTT' already.

I've seen it dozens of times in so many anticipated MMOs over the years. Just relax, nod and smile when they speak about the game, and wait for facts, not your endorphine soaked imagination.

 

 

 

This is what I call the One True Game Syndrome(tm).  NO game that actually launches will EVER live up to all of the hype and player expectation, speculation, and projection that has become all too typical.  Thats why the One True Game (tm) is always just over the horizon... Never clearly seen, always cloaked in ever shifting marketing hype, and player speculation.

I have no idea why True Believer types do this to themselves, not just once, but repeatedly.  But its become a toxic background, that is undermining the games industry itself.

  bill4747

Novice Member

Joined: 10/07/06
Posts: 203

 
OP  3/14/13 11:08:54 AM#66
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

The confusion on that point is based on how each of us defines 'closer to skyrim'

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

  Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3575

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

3/14/13 11:13:28 AM#67
Originally posted by Telondariel
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

Going against my better judgment I will reply to this. New does not mean better. Matter of FACT!!!!! Over the past 6-8 years compnies keep trying to remake what made MMOs awesome and most have failed. Few exceptions to that rule like EVE but thats not the norm. The drive to grassroots is something devs are seeing as needed to make MMOs function again. Sure keep the modern twists like VO acting but the core of what made MMO great needs to be really looked at. Want awesome PvP, well lets look at what really worked. What game had the best faction pride, lets look at what game did that and how that happened. Want an awesome temepark MMO, again lets look at what made things like WoW really work. Core models need to be looked at as a whole. Not slapped together like frankenstein hack job and say, WE HAVE LIFE!!!! Ya smart devs!!!! 

Trolls feed on attention.  If you ignore his hate, he won't get the attention that drives him.  I just report, and give a couple lines of explanation as to the disruptive, non-productive history of the user.  Enough of those, and the mods will get the idea.

Depends on if its warranted or not.  People that abuse the report system, tend not to like the eventual consequences.  Much of this is subjective, which is what makes even handed moderation so difficult, but also so necessary.

  Iselin

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Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 3910

3/14/13 11:13:34 AM#68
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

Going against my better judgment I will reply to this. New does not mean better. Matter of FACT!!!!! Over the past 6-8 years compnies keep trying to remake what made MMOs awesome and most have failed. Few exceptions to that rule like EVE but thats not the norm. The drive to grassroots is something devs are seeing as needed to make MMOs function again. Sure keep the modern twists like VO acting but the core of what made MMO great needs to be really looked at. Want awesome PvP, well lets look at what really worked. What game had the best faction pride, lets look at what game did that and how that happened. Want an awesome temepark MMO, again lets look at what made things like WoW really work. Core models need to be looked at as a whole. Not slapped together like frankenstein hack job and say, WE HAVE LIFE!!!! Ya smart devs!!!! 

Do you even read the posts you write all thess visual messes to?

Your post has nothing to do with what I wrote or what the OP wrote. You just see a post by me and write your shit, doesn't matter if you are writing in reply to my post or not. Seriously, stop fucking trolling!

No he answered you. Reading comprehension 101 ftw... and speaking of trolling...aren't you the one who is trolling him with your quote in your signature?

The OP says TESO is closer to Skyrim then ANY other MMO.

TESO is not using anything that isn't already being used in an MMO.

So tell me, how on earth can it be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO if it uses has same functionality?

So sorry but he doesn't have a point, neither do you.

 

 It's the only MMO based on the TES universe? Just a guess...

 

(Note: a clue from the OP himself.... "I want an immersive world, and I want to be able to be a plate wearing mage if I choose."

  bill4747

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Joined: 10/07/06
Posts: 203

 
OP  3/14/13 11:13:59 AM#69
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

Going against my better judgment I will reply to this. New does not mean better. Matter of FACT!!!!! Over the past 6-8 years compnies keep trying to remake what made MMOs awesome and most have failed. Few exceptions to that rule like EVE but thats not the norm. The drive to grassroots is something devs are seeing as needed to make MMOs function again. Sure keep the modern twists like VO acting but the core of what made MMO great needs to be really looked at. Want awesome PvP, well lets look at what really worked. What game had the best faction pride, lets look at what game did that and how that happened. Want an awesome temepark MMO, again lets look at what made things like WoW really work. Core models need to be looked at as a whole. Not slapped together like frankenstein hack job and say, WE HAVE LIFE!!!! Ya smart devs!!!! 

Do you even read the posts you write all thess visual messes to?

Your post has nothing to do with what I wrote or what the OP wrote. You just see a post by me and write your shit, doesn't matter if you are writing in reply to my post or not. Seriously, stop fucking trolling!

No he answered you. Reading comprehension 101 ftw... and speaking of trolling...aren't you the one who is trolling him with your quote in your signature?

The OP says TESO is closer to Skyrim then ANY other MMO.

TESO is not using anything that isn't already being used in an MMO.

So tell me, how on earth can it be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO if it uses has same functionality?

So sorry but he doesn't have a point, neither do you.

 

I have a very good point.

Your logic is flawed.

Individual elements in other mmorpg's in no way prevent ESO form being to some degree close to Skyrim.

 

  Maelwydd

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Joined: 2/26/09
Posts: 1169

3/14/13 11:14:06 AM#70
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

  Maelwydd

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3/14/13 11:16:52 AM#71
Originally posted by Iselin

 

 It's the only MMO based on the TES universe? Just a guess...

LOL got me on that. But except for the name....

 

 

  bill4747

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OP  3/14/13 11:17:43 AM#72
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Iselin
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by Thandras

What does your post have to do with the OP's post?  He didn't mention anywhere that he thought it was going to be innovative  unles my reading comprehension is not what it used to be.

Ugg I hate explaining things that should be obvious but here goes...

OP says TESO will be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO.

But seeing as TESO isn't going to inovate or use anything that isn't already in use in other MMO's that position if clearly false and is just a biased opinion. If it isn't doing anything new then it cannot be any different form the other games it resembles. So if it has no more and no less of a resemblance to TESo then the satement from the OP is just opinion, very biased opinion.

My post was to point that out.

But if you have to explain....

 

 

Going against my better judgment I will reply to this. New does not mean better. Matter of FACT!!!!! Over the past 6-8 years compnies keep trying to remake what made MMOs awesome and most have failed. Few exceptions to that rule like EVE but thats not the norm. The drive to grassroots is something devs are seeing as needed to make MMOs function again. Sure keep the modern twists like VO acting but the core of what made MMO great needs to be really looked at. Want awesome PvP, well lets look at what really worked. What game had the best faction pride, lets look at what game did that and how that happened. Want an awesome temepark MMO, again lets look at what made things like WoW really work. Core models need to be looked at as a whole. Not slapped together like frankenstein hack job and say, WE HAVE LIFE!!!! Ya smart devs!!!! 

Do you even read the posts you write all thess visual messes to?

Your post has nothing to do with what I wrote or what the OP wrote. You just see a post by me and write your shit, doesn't matter if you are writing in reply to my post or not. Seriously, stop fucking trolling!

No he answered you. Reading comprehension 101 ftw... and speaking of trolling...aren't you the one who is trolling him with your quote in your signature?

The OP says TESO is closer to Skyrim then ANY other MMO.

TESO is not using anything that isn't already being used in an MMO.

So tell me, how on earth can it be closer to Skyrim then any other MMO if it uses has same functionality?

So sorry but he doesn't have a point, neither do you.

 

 It's the only MMO based on the TES universe? Just a guess...

 

(Note: a clue from the OP himself.... "I want an immersive world, and I want to be able to be a plate wearing mage if I choose."

So true :)

Painfully obvious fact, really.

  Nanfoodle

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3/14/13 11:18:13 AM#73
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

Again, Maelwydd hijacks another thread and changed the topic to why ESO is not really a TES MMO and how it failed. (((eye roll)))  This thread is about why we like ESO, do you have anything positive to say? If not go back to one of your many hate threads you made.

  Maelwydd

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3/14/13 11:24:24 AM#74
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

Again, Maelwydd hijacks another thread and changed the topic to why ESO is not really a TES MMO and how it failed. (((eye roll)))  This thread is about why we like ESO, do you have anything positive to say? If not go back to one of your many hate threads you made.

Oh look. nanofoodle quotes me, has a go at me for not contributing the the thread and then doesn't contribute to the thread!

  bill4747

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OP  3/14/13 11:25:33 AM#75
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

I am biased in regards to what I like in an mmorpg.

My expectations of ESO are a reasonable and accurate assesment of the informnation at hand.

 

  bill4747

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OP  3/14/13 11:29:33 AM#76
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

Again, Maelwydd hijacks another thread and changed the topic to why ESO is not really a TES MMO and how it failed. (((eye roll)))  This thread is about why we like ESO, do you have anything positive to say? If not go back to one of your many hate threads you made.

Well, ignoring the fact Maelwydd is quite blunt in his manner of communication, I assume he is just angry that ESO is not going to be designed in a manner optimal for his enjoyment.

  Maelwydd

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3/14/13 11:31:34 AM#77
Originally posted by bill4747
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

I am biased in regards to what I like in an mmorpg.

My expectations of ESO are a reasonable and accurate assesment of the informnation at hand.

 

Fine but I am trying to understand how you can be biased and accurate at the same time...

Anyway with that I am done with this thread.

  bill4747

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OP  3/14/13 11:35:39 AM#78
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Originally posted by bill4747

My opinion is biased, but I still think it accurate.

 

I am going to have to take a moment to really absorb that comment....

I am biased in regards to what I like in an mmorpg.

My expectations of ESO are a reasonable and accurate assesment of the informnation at hand.

 

Fine but I am trying to understand how you can be biased and accurate at the same time...

Anyway with that I am done with this thread.

All people are biased. There has never been a human being capable of unbiased logic.

Therefore.....everyone, you me, everyone is biased.

Are you suggesting no human being can be accurate?

  DavisFlight

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3/14/13 11:41:42 AM#79
Originally posted by Mavek
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by MyTabbycat
Originally posted by Maelwydd
Name a unique, never been done in an MMO feature that TESO has....

Name a unique, never been done in an MMO feature that WoW has...

Well, that's what makes WoW such a shitty MMO, and why TESO is shaping up to be the same.

WoW was very innovative, had crisp gameplay, and was casual (compared to other mmo's of the time) when it came out hence why it became so big and is still copied today.  If you're going to bash something at least get your facts straight.

WOW has never, not ONCE innovated. All their ideas are ripped directly from games that came before them. It became big because it was the first MMO to have a huge brand name recognition with a well known company behind them, and a year long multi million dollar ad campaign, as well as it being super casual to appeal to the non MMO crowd. Crisp gameplay, lmao.

  DavisFlight

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3/14/13 11:43:40 AM#80
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by bill4747

ESO will not be Skyrim Online.

But, I believe it will be closer to Skyrim Online than any other mmorpg will be.

I want an immersive world, and I want to be able to be a plate wearing mage if I choose.

ESO will be a billion times closer to that than anny other mmorpg. I hope.


You aren't going to get a game remotely like Skyrim. The closest MMO to the Elderscrolls series is Darkfall.

Darkfall is nothing like Elder Scrolls and vice versa.

 

Except that, like in ES, you can attack anyone anywhere.

Except that, like in ES, it is first person real time twitch based combat.

Except that, like in ES, there are no instances or zones or loading except for dungeons (which aren't instanced).

Except that, like in ES, you can pick up and use whatever weapon or armor you find.

 

It is the most like ES out of any of the MMOs out there.

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