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  tiefighter25

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Joined: 7/30/12
Posts: 949

 
OP  3/13/13 1:45:24 AM#21

Someone either smarter or more familiar with the new rep grind (preferably both) figure out the cost of getting to the end of the new faction rep grind. The last estimate I heard was 63 gambling packs + 10 more for certificates at a total cost of US $170, or if listed on the GTN (assuming players are able to convert the packs directly to in game credits) 18 million credits.

Does that sound about right?

  MortisRex

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Joined: 9/23/04
Posts: 367

3/13/13 2:04:15 AM#22
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.
  DaRoamer

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Joined: 5/11/10
Posts: 254

3/13/13 3:48:06 AM#23
Originally posted by MortisRex
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.

Actually, I couldn't believe there were people complaining.  When I got packs today, the first time I've spend real money on them, I thought the rep stuff was a great idea.  Previously, when I bought packs of the GTN or with my free monthly coins I would sometimes be disappointed to get absolutely nothing of value.  Now I was guaranteed to at least get something useful, rep.  So yes, well before I saw any complaints on the forum I felt that I was getting rewarded for buying the packs.

People complaining are completely out of line, as far as I'm concerned.  It's a rep for buying packs, that's it.  There is no reason for you to get that rep if you don't buy packs.  None of the gear you get is required for end game, it's all cosmetic.  Secondly, you get free coins every month so you'll get rep without spending another penny and lastly you can buy the packs off the GTN.  On my server they go for 250-300k.  I can make that in 2 hours doing dailies or crafting.  That's how I was buying packs before this.

I got 2 skiffs, and a crapload of other cool stuff.  Lots of people in my guild bought the 24 packs.  We're all working adults and we all had fun opening packs.  Not a single rage quit over not being able to do this rep grind if you didn't buy packs.

  tiefighter25

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Joined: 7/30/12
Posts: 949

 
OP  3/13/13 4:09:52 AM#24
Originally posted by DaRoamer
Originally posted by MortisRex
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.

Actually, I couldn't believe there were people complaining.  When I got packs today, the first time I've spend real money on them, I thought the rep stuff was a great idea.  Previously, when I bought packs of the GTN or with my free monthly coins I would sometimes be disappointed to get absolutely nothing of value.  Now I was guaranteed to at least get something useful, rep.  So yes, well before I saw any complaints on the forum I felt that I was getting rewarded for buying the packs.

People complaining are completely out of line, as far as I'm concerned.  It's a rep for buying packs, that's it.  There is no reason for you to get that rep if you don't buy packs.  None of the gear you get is required for end game, it's all cosmetic.  Secondly, you get free coins every month so you'll get rep without spending another penny and lastly you can buy the packs off the GTN.  On my server they go for 250-300k.  I can make that in 2 hours doing dailies or crafting.  That's how I was buying packs before this.

I got 2 skiffs, and a crapload of other cool stuff.  Lots of people in my guild bought the 24 packs.  We're all working adults and we all had fun opening packs.  Not a single rage quit over not being able to do this rep grind if you didn't buy packs.

So you should be able to grind that rep, assuming you do little else, in 3 months without a hitch. (That's 3 months of subbing one would assume, credit requirements and all.) Unless of course you drop $170 in one shot. I also like how you slip in "working adults". Apparently now even "kids" just paying their $15 a month just doesn't cut the mustard. Obviously all the "adults" recognize that a sub (an outdated model which is why SWTOR went Freemium) is not enough. If you want new content, you should pay extra, as all "working adults" do.

Have you ever been to a strip club?

  AzurePrower

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Joined: 3/18/07
Posts: 1545

Ahh yes, "Hypers." The people who praise and hate every MMORPG... We've dismissed that claim.

3/13/13 4:18:40 AM#25

This is pretty much the reason I out right quit playing SW:TOR after hearing the free to play news announcement.

  BadOrb

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Joined: 1/11/13
Posts: 778

3/13/13 10:44:53 AM#26
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Originally posted by DaRoamer
Originally posted by MortisRex
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.

Actually, I couldn't believe there were people complaining.  When I got packs today, the first time I've spend real money on them, I thought the rep stuff was a great idea.  Previously, when I bought packs of the GTN or with my free monthly coins I would sometimes be disappointed to get absolutely nothing of value.  Now I was guaranteed to at least get something useful, rep.  So yes, well before I saw any complaints on the forum I felt that I was getting rewarded for buying the packs.

People complaining are completely out of line, as far as I'm concerned.  It's a rep for buying packs, that's it.  There is no reason for you to get that rep if you don't buy packs.  None of the gear you get is required for end game, it's all cosmetic.  Secondly, you get free coins every month so you'll get rep without spending another penny and lastly you can buy the packs off the GTN.  On my server they go for 250-300k.  I can make that in 2 hours doing dailies or crafting.  That's how I was buying packs before this.

I got 2 skiffs, and a crapload of other cool stuff.  Lots of people in my guild bought the 24 packs.  We're all working adults and we all had fun opening packs.  Not a single rage quit over not being able to do this rep grind if you didn't buy packs.

So you should be able to grind that rep, assuming you do little else, in 3 months without a hitch. (That's 3 months of subbing one would assume, credit requirements and all.) Unless of course you drop $170 in one shot. I also like how you slip in "working adults". Apparently now even "kids" just paying their $15 a month just doesn't cut the mustard. Obviously all the "adults" recognize that a sub (an outdated model which is why SWTOR went Freemium) is not enough. If you want new content, you should pay extra, as all "working adults" do.

Have you ever been to a strip club?

It isn't new content though. Rise of the hutt cartel is new content we have to pay for , but this new rep grind is a way for the poor sods that spend limitless amounts of real money to have a chance of getting what they actually wanted from the cartel packs. Doesn't bother me one bit , give them something back I say. Noting that they could have bought that stuff off the GTN for in-game credits , they can even buy these new cartel packs off the GTN.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  DaRoamer

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Joined: 5/11/10
Posts: 254

3/13/13 11:40:13 AM#27
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Originally posted by DaRoamer
Originally posted by MortisRex
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.

Actually, I couldn't believe there were people complaining.  When I got packs today, the first time I've spend real money on them, I thought the rep stuff was a great idea.  Previously, when I bought packs of the GTN or with my free monthly coins I would sometimes be disappointed to get absolutely nothing of value.  Now I was guaranteed to at least get something useful, rep.  So yes, well before I saw any complaints on the forum I felt that I was getting rewarded for buying the packs.

People complaining are completely out of line, as far as I'm concerned.  It's a rep for buying packs, that's it.  There is no reason for you to get that rep if you don't buy packs.  None of the gear you get is required for end game, it's all cosmetic.  Secondly, you get free coins every month so you'll get rep without spending another penny and lastly you can buy the packs off the GTN.  On my server they go for 250-300k.  I can make that in 2 hours doing dailies or crafting.  That's how I was buying packs before this.

I got 2 skiffs, and a crapload of other cool stuff.  Lots of people in my guild bought the 24 packs.  We're all working adults and we all had fun opening packs.  Not a single rage quit over not being able to do this rep grind if you didn't buy packs.

So you should be able to grind that rep, assuming you do little else, in 3 months without a hitch. (That's 3 months of subbing one would assume, credit requirements and all.) Unless of course you drop $170 in one shot. I also like how you slip in "working adults". Apparently now even "kids" just paying their $15 a month just doesn't cut the mustard. Obviously all the "adults" recognize that a sub (an outdated model which is why SWTOR went Freemium) is not enough. If you want new content, you should pay extra, as all "working adults" do.

Have you ever been to a strip club?

Why do you need to grind the rep?  It's rep for buying cartel items of which the reward is mostly items you get from cartel packs.  I don't complain that I need to do space in order get space rep when I have no desire to do heroic space missions.  An MMO is designed for all kinds of players, not every piece of content is for every player.

I'm sorry that the phrase "working adults" upset you.  It was in reference to the post I was actually quoting that indicated that Bioware was pissing on subscribers.  I save my indignation for those companies actually do bad things, like polluting the earth.  A for-profit company offering me a service that I can choose to purchase or ignore is not worth my contempt.  I've played and quit well over a dozen MMOs, I'm perfectly capable of deciding where and when to spend my money.

Subs who don't wish to buy cartel packs have 3 choices. 

Don't bother with this particular rep.

Use the free coins you already get to buy packs and build your rep.

Buy packs off the GTN with credits acquired through in game means and build your rep.

None of those options require you giving any extra money to Bioware.

And yes, been to strip clubs many times.

  FromHell

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3/13/13 11:46:50 AM#28
Originally posted by leojreimroc
Yeah this reputation grind is pretty incredible.  Has any other f2p game done anything similar before?  It's pretty sketchy if you ask me.

Biowallet strikes again.

I simply ignore the cartel store, play my 5 warzones a week and that's it. Still like a quick Huttball match every now and then.

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  superniceguy

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3/13/13 12:21:41 PM#29
Originally posted by BadOrb
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Originally posted by DaRoamer
Originally posted by MortisRex
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.

Actually, I couldn't believe there were people complaining.  When I got packs today, the first time I've spend real money on them, I thought the rep stuff was a great idea.  Previously, when I bought packs of the GTN or with my free monthly coins I would sometimes be disappointed to get absolutely nothing of value.  Now I was guaranteed to at least get something useful, rep.  So yes, well before I saw any complaints on the forum I felt that I was getting rewarded for buying the packs.

People complaining are completely out of line, as far as I'm concerned.  It's a rep for buying packs, that's it.  There is no reason for you to get that rep if you don't buy packs.  None of the gear you get is required for end game, it's all cosmetic.  Secondly, you get free coins every month so you'll get rep without spending another penny and lastly you can buy the packs off the GTN.  On my server they go for 250-300k.  I can make that in 2 hours doing dailies or crafting.  That's how I was buying packs before this.

I got 2 skiffs, and a crapload of other cool stuff.  Lots of people in my guild bought the 24 packs.  We're all working adults and we all had fun opening packs.  Not a single rage quit over not being able to do this rep grind if you didn't buy packs.

So you should be able to grind that rep, assuming you do little else, in 3 months without a hitch. (That's 3 months of subbing one would assume, credit requirements and all.) Unless of course you drop $170 in one shot. I also like how you slip in "working adults". Apparently now even "kids" just paying their $15 a month just doesn't cut the mustard. Obviously all the "adults" recognize that a sub (an outdated model which is why SWTOR went Freemium) is not enough. If you want new content, you should pay extra, as all "working adults" do.

Have you ever been to a strip club?

It isn't new content though. Rise of the hutt cartel is new content we have to pay for , but this new rep grind is a way for the poor sods that spend limitless amounts of real money to have a chance of getting what they actually wanted from the cartel packs. Doesn't bother me one bit , give them something back I say. Noting that they could have bought that stuff off the GTN for in-game credits , they can even buy these new cartel packs off the GTN.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

The main problem, and even BW recognise the problem is this

Quote: Originally Posted by Screaming_Ziva View Post

Eric,

The biggest problem with the way this system is currently set up are the Cartel Market Certificates as they are bound to the character that gets them. I, like probably many others, open Cartel Packs on alts because they have all my empty cargo bays. Now all of my Certificates are bound to my alts and I can't buy anything for my mains without spending even more money on Cartel Packs. You say this reputation is based on money spent but, even though the reputation is based on money spent, the actual items are based on money spent PER CHARACTER (and luck). The Certificates should be bound on Legacy or the items from the vendors should be bound on Legacy.
That is a very good point, I am going to pass this on to the development team.

Keep the feedback coming as I will be keeping an eye on the thread and continue to pass your feedback on. I understand some of you are frustrated but try to keep your feedback as detailed and constructive as possible. It will allow me to more easily discern your specific frustrations with the system to pass on your feedback
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Will have to wait and see if they change it.

ROTHC is old content that was supposed to be free, and now dressed up and acting as new content that has to be paid for. STO has a rep grind, but do not have to buy packs or spend money to progress it, just play the game to progress. The game is obviously not getting the money they are wanting, and is just turning into more of a money scam instead of a decent MMO, each day, making the game less and less playable/fun.  This new cartel pack rep grind is just done to encourage people to keep spending more money or to try and reach people who want to complete their reps and may not buy cartel pack to now buy cartel packs for this rep grind.

The rep grinds as they are are bad enough (even for STO) but to add one for buying cartel packs just reaches an all time low.

  BadOrb

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3/13/13 1:04:47 PM#30
Originally posted by superniceguy

The main problem, and even BW recognise the problem is this

Quote: Originally Posted by Screaming_Ziva View Post

Eric,

The biggest problem with the way this system is currently set up are the Cartel Market Certificates as they are bound to the character that gets them. I, like probably many others, open Cartel Packs on alts because they have all my empty cargo bays. Now all of my Certificates are bound to my alts and I can't buy anything for my mains without spending even more money on Cartel Packs. You say this reputation is based on money spent but, even though the reputation is based on money spent, the actual items are based on money spent PER CHARACTER (and luck). The Certificates should be bound on Legacy or the items from the vendors should be bound on Legacy.
That is a very good point, I am going to pass this on to the development team.

Keep the feedback coming as I will be keeping an eye on the thread and continue to pass your feedback on. I understand some of you are frustrated but try to keep your feedback as detailed and constructive as possible. It will allow me to more easily discern your specific frustrations with the system to pass on your feedback
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Will have to wait and see if they change it.

ROTHC is old content that was supposed to be free, and now dressed up and acting as new content that has to be paid for. STO has a rep grind, but do not have to buy packs or spend money to progress it, just play the game to progress. The game is obviously not getting the money they are wanting, and is just turning into more of a money scam instead of a decent MMO, each day, making the game less and less playable/fun.  This new cartel pack rep grind is just done to encourage people to keep spending more money or to try and reach people who want to complete their reps and may not buy cartel pack to now buy cartel packs for this rep grind.

The rep grinds as they are are bad enough (even for STO) but to add one for buying cartel packs just reaches an all time low.

Yeah I was using ROTHC as an example , I think people who have to grind that new rep and otherwise wouldn't buy cartel packs are a bit odd , what's the point ? I'm not going to bother with the space mision rep grind and I was going to d the section x and voss rep grinds but it's only for armor ( shells ). Maybe they will add something cool like the new blue speeder with the gree , that might make me grind those reps. Now the cartel rep system only has fluff items and the legend one is a silly crown/hat so no I won't be spending real money on it at all. I don't think a single new rep system makes the game less enjoyable or fun/playable.

I see your point , it does encourage people to buy more packs I guess but on the other hand it also gives people something back for buying said packs. I wonder which one they where thinking about when they designed it ?

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  tiefighter25

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OP  3/13/13 2:17:15 PM#31
Originally posted by DaRoamer
Originally posted by tiefighter25
Originally posted by DaRoamer
Originally posted by MortisRex
Very, very soon, the usual suspects will be in here telling everyone that "SWTOR isn't pissing on you, that's rain!". It's as inevitably as the rising sun.

Actually, I couldn't believe there were people complaining.  When I got packs today, the first time I've spend real money on them, I thought the rep stuff was a great idea.  Previously, when I bought packs of the GTN or with my free monthly coins I would sometimes be disappointed to get absolutely nothing of value.  Now I was guaranteed to at least get something useful, rep.  So yes, well before I saw any complaints on the forum I felt that I was getting rewarded for buying the packs.

People complaining are completely out of line, as far as I'm concerned.  It's a rep for buying packs, that's it.  There is no reason for you to get that rep if you don't buy packs.  None of the gear you get is required for end game, it's all cosmetic.  Secondly, you get free coins every month so you'll get rep without spending another penny and lastly you can buy the packs off the GTN.  On my server they go for 250-300k.  I can make that in 2 hours doing dailies or crafting.  That's how I was buying packs before this.

I got 2 skiffs, and a crapload of other cool stuff.  Lots of people in my guild bought the 24 packs.  We're all working adults and we all had fun opening packs.  Not a single rage quit over not being able to do this rep grind if you didn't buy packs.

So you should be able to grind that rep, assuming you do little else, in 3 months without a hitch. (That's 3 months of subbing one would assume, credit requirements and all.) Unless of course you drop $170 in one shot. I also like how you slip in "working adults". Apparently now even "kids" just paying their $15 a month just doesn't cut the mustard. Obviously all the "adults" recognize that a sub (an outdated model which is why SWTOR went Freemium) is not enough. If you want new content, you should pay extra, as all "working adults" do.

Have you ever been to a strip club?

Why do you need to grind the rep?  It's rep for buying cartel items of which the reward is mostly items you get from cartel packs.  I don't complain that I need to do space in order get space rep when I have no desire to do heroic space missions.  An MMO is designed for all kinds of players, not every piece of content is for every player.

I'm sorry that the phrase "working adults" upset you.  It was in reference to the post I was actually quoting that indicated that Bioware was pissing on subscribers.  I save my indignation for those companies actually do bad things, like polluting the earth.  A for-profit company offering me a service that I can choose to purchase or ignore is not worth my contempt.  I've played and quit well over a dozen MMOs, I'm perfectly capable of deciding where and when to spend my money.

Subs who don't wish to buy cartel packs have 3 choices. 

Don't bother with this particular rep.

Use the free coins you already get to buy packs and build your rep.

Buy packs off the GTN with credits acquired through in game means and build your rep.

None of those options require you giving any extra money to Bioware.

And yes, been to strip clubs many times.

I'm not sure if you're aware that you are doing it.

Essentially your argument on a forum that discusses MMOs is "Who cares, t's just a game."

The new system is part of EA's overarching attempt to wedge in micro-transactions in every knook and cranny it can find.

ME 3, on disc DLC.

Deadspace 3, in game consumable store.

Sim City 5, needless always (messed up) on line DRM control.

And now SWTOR monetizing a rep grind. It is not a cutomer thany you, it is not a frequent purchaser rewards program; it is designed specifically to get people to buy gambling boxes. It is not even directly selling virtual goods, it's playing on one of many people's basest vices, gambling.

As to the argument that this money is needed to continue the creation of new content, this new content has yet to show itself, everything released since early summer 2012 and projected out to early summer 2013 was already in the can.

This is squeezing.

I find this rent seeking deplorable in any aspect of society, be it excessive ATM fees, hidden mobile phone fees, etc.

So yeah, it is just a game, but we happen to be discussing games, not polluting companies or their ilk.

 

*Edit, this sounds ranty and mad, I'm not really, just a bit disappointed, but then again, not that surprised.*

  superniceguy

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3/13/13 3:46:14 PM#32
Originally posted by BadOrb
Originally posted by superniceguy

The main problem, and even BW recognise the problem is this

Quote: Originally Posted by Screaming_Ziva View Post

Eric,

The biggest problem with the way this system is currently set up are the Cartel Market Certificates as they are bound to the character that gets them. I, like probably many others, open Cartel Packs on alts because they have all my empty cargo bays. Now all of my Certificates are bound to my alts and I can't buy anything for my mains without spending even more money on Cartel Packs. You say this reputation is based on money spent but, even though the reputation is based on money spent, the actual items are based on money spent PER CHARACTER (and luck). The Certificates should be bound on Legacy or the items from the vendors should be bound on Legacy.
That is a very good point, I am going to pass this on to the development team.

Keep the feedback coming as I will be keeping an eye on the thread and continue to pass your feedback on. I understand some of you are frustrated but try to keep your feedback as detailed and constructive as possible. It will allow me to more easily discern your specific frustrations with the system to pass on your feedback
.

Will have to wait and see if they change it.

ROTHC is old content that was supposed to be free, and now dressed up and acting as new content that has to be paid for. STO has a rep grind, but do not have to buy packs or spend money to progress it, just play the game to progress. The game is obviously not getting the money they are wanting, and is just turning into more of a money scam instead of a decent MMO, each day, making the game less and less playable/fun.  This new cartel pack rep grind is just done to encourage people to keep spending more money or to try and reach people who want to complete their reps and may not buy cartel pack to now buy cartel packs for this rep grind.

The rep grinds as they are are bad enough (even for STO) but to add one for buying cartel packs just reaches an all time low.

Yeah I was using ROTHC as an example , I think people who have to grind that new rep and otherwise wouldn't buy cartel packs are a bit odd , what's the point ? I'm not going to bother with the space mision rep grind and I was going to d the section x and voss rep grinds but it's only for armor ( shells ). Maybe they will add something cool like the new blue speeder with the gree , that might make me grind those reps. Now the cartel rep system only has fluff items and the legend one is a silly crown/hat so no I won't be spending real money on it at all. I don't think a single new rep system makes the game less enjoyable or fun/playable.

I see your point , it does encourage people to buy more packs I guess but on the other hand it also gives people something back for buying said packs. I wonder which one they where thinking about when they designed it ?

Cheers,

BadOrb.

It becomes less fun because as you play the content already in the game it becomes old, and they add this stuff that gets ignored. If they added content that required gameplay instead paying more money, then it would make the game more fun, or just as fun, as replaces old content that you got bored of with new fresh content.

"on the other hand it also gives people something back for buying said packs."

not as per that example that was shown to eric of BW. People buy the packs on alts as have more inventory space, and then the certificate are bound on to those characters, and then the mains can not have that stuff and they would have to buy more packs to get the stuff on them.

  BadOrb

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3/13/13 4:22:00 PM#33

Well breaking news that won't be well received is that they are going to have a different rep system for every new cartel pack. Now that doesn't please me too much , I will avoid them. 

Yeah I see what you mean superniceguy.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  hikaru77

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3/13/13 4:46:40 PM#34
Originally posted by Senden
An entire rep grind based on spending real money.. can that website from last year do another worst company in America awards please?

You can buy it with ingame money from the GTN, still all the reputacion rewards are pretty much retired items from the Cartel market, and we still talking about cosmetic stuff.

  Zeppelin5083

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3/13/13 4:55:22 PM#35
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Senden
An entire rep grind based on spending real money.. can that website from last year do another worst company in America awards please?

You can buy it with ingame money from the GTN, still all the reputacion rewards are pretty much retired items from the Cartel market, and we still talking about cosmetic stuff.

Do you have any idea how much it would take to buy enough to get legendary status? I think someone on the SWTOR forums figured it to be at least 50 million +.

This is cosmetic, yes. But when subbers have patiently waiting for more content and you throw this in, where they have to spend more money on their subs (or wait several years for their monthly stipend to give them enough for legendary status on these rep items) it's sickening. Seems to me they are using the cartel market funds to add more stuff to the cartel market.

  Astropuyo

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3/13/13 5:00:16 PM#36

I'm failing to see the big deal here?

 

The rep items are basically old cartel items, the faction almost has no use outside of that for rewards.

 

Had they called this "Buyers reward program" i bet no one would be so ragey.

 

No matter what EA does they are in the hot pot. They offer rewards, poofest. They do nothing? Poofest.

 

Most of you are just using this subject as your launching platform against a company that you dislike, which is fine. Just don't mask it behind care or concern.

 

This is about as big a deal as Sony giving 10 bucks for every 50 spent .

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  BadOrb

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3/13/13 5:01:36 PM#37

It seems it's per shipment , so those last 5-6 cartel packs were shipment 1 and we are now on shipment 2's first pack. So it isn't quite as bad but is still a lot of money rep to grind every few months.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

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  Vlhad77

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3/13/13 5:07:28 PM#38
well good going bioware, EA or who the F ever is with SWTOR now, you have loss another customer.  Im going to go play SWGemu.  And enjoy the GOOD OLE DAYS!!!!   F U TOR!!!!!!
  Uronksur

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3/13/13 5:09:38 PM#39
God I miss SWG. I'd be so happy if someone relaunched it, or did SWG2 or something.
  Zeppelin5083

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3/13/13 5:11:45 PM#40
Originally posted by Astropuyo

I'm failing to see the big deal here?

 

The rep items are basically old cartel items, the faction almost has no use outside of that for rewards.

 

Had they called this "Buyers reward program" i bet no one would be so ragey.

 

No matter what EA does they are in the hot pot. They offer rewards, poofest. They do nothing? Poofest.

 

Most of you are just using this subject as your launching platform against a company that you dislike, which is fine. Just don't mask it behind care or concern.

 

This is about as big a deal as Sony giving 10 bucks for every 50 spent .

I think most people are mad about the fact that there are so many bugs in the game (FP disconnects, hood problems, etc) that have been in the game for so long and with every update all they do is add more cartel items. I don't mind the cartel market, I've made some minor purchases here and there, but when as a sub you are waiting for more new content or AT LEAST some fixes to current content, and all you get is new content that you can't access without: 

A. Waiting ages for the sub cartel coin stipends to kick in

B. Opening your wallet in addition to the sub you are already paying for

C. Grinding loads and loads of credits

it irritates people. Yes, they are fluff items. But it IS content. What's the point of having a sub if the content they add on requires you to do the things mentioned above? If they had added a way to grind the rep like Section X or Voss, that would of been fine. They could of rewarded both subbers and cartel market shoppers. But after waiting so long for updates/fixes and getting this, I can understand why people are upset. They should be.

When I think of a subscription to a game, I think of access to all content. After all, that's why we pay the subscription. Some people go F2P, some go preferred, some buy what they need when they need it at the market, some buy loads of packs in the market. That's fine. A sub is what I choose and I shouldn't have to spend more or grind to a ridiculous credit amount (someone said over 50-60 million?) in order to access this.

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