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  nariusseldon

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3/14/13 11:05:59 AM#61
Originally posted by Paradigm68

To me an MMORPG is a world simulator and to that end I like having many different kinds of people in the gameworld, playing many different kinds of ways. It fills the game out, it provides depth. Grouping is hardly the only reason to interact with other players. As the point of the post is asking, playing an MMORPG where everyone is doing the same thing lacks depth.

You have a very strange definition of depth. So a bunch of people playing a bunch of min-games in a 3D virtual room is depth?

I would much rather have deep combat and progression, as opposed to a collection of trivial things.

But i suppose whatever you like, is your choice.

And no, i don't play world simulator. I play games.

  Merilirem

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OP  3/14/13 11:21:34 PM#62
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Paradigm68

To me an MMORPG is a world simulator and to that end I like having many different kinds of people in the gameworld, playing many different kinds of ways. It fills the game out, it provides depth. Grouping is hardly the only reason to interact with other players. As the point of the post is asking, playing an MMORPG where everyone is doing the same thing lacks depth.

You have a very strange definition of depth. So a bunch of people playing a bunch of min-games in a 3D virtual room is depth?

I would much rather have deep combat and progression, as opposed to a collection of trivial things.

But i suppose whatever you like, is your choice.

And no, i don't play world simulator. I play games.

Life is a game. Your free to think what you want, but I feel you may have taken it the wrong way. Just because a plethora of possibilities are available, doesn't mean you automatically lose quality in the area you prefer. Instead of trivial things it's more a group of fully functioning playstyles coexisting in a symbiotic manner. The crafter make stuff for those who don't while the warriors protect them and mages do Mage things etc. everyone making up for what those around them lack. A few people may become prevalent in all manner of abilities, making their own toys and finding their way alone. Others may specialize and form bonds with others who chose needed paths. The wonderment is not from a great deal of pointless distractions but from an organic working world moved by the will of players working in harmony. 

If a butterfly learnt to speak, to live in human society, paid its bills, had a job, lived in a fancy house and married a human, is it human?

Now what if that same butterfly knew how to write code better than any human and had years of experience in the game industry, would that make it a game designer?

If u wouldn't let a construction worker design your house, then why let a programmer design your world?

  Mtibbs1989

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3/14/13 11:24:32 PM#63
Originally posted by Merilirem

I read many people arguing against or for kinds of games and types of play they themselves enjoy. I read the responses, the many different and the same. An interesting factor in games is depth, in an mmo it seems to have been forgotten, not that it stopped existing, just what it means. The meaning may have changed or merged, it may have always been the same. So I ask the question.

What does depth in an mmo mean to you?

 I personally like for the depth of thegame to reside in the leveling and gear. I like to play games which have rediculously large level caps and a large list of items to improve on or twink your character with along the way. A great example of this is Anarchy online. The level cap within Anarchy Online sits at 220 while having a very complex and indepth gear system for progression and leveling.


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  nariusseldon

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3/16/13 10:34:12 AM#64
Originally posted by Merilirem
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Paradigm68

To me an MMORPG is a world simulator and to that end I like having many different kinds of people in the gameworld, playing many different kinds of ways. It fills the game out, it provides depth. Grouping is hardly the only reason to interact with other players. As the point of the post is asking, playing an MMORPG where everyone is doing the same thing lacks depth.

You have a very strange definition of depth. So a bunch of people playing a bunch of min-games in a 3D virtual room is depth?

I would much rather have deep combat and progression, as opposed to a collection of trivial things.

But i suppose whatever you like, is your choice.

And no, i don't play world simulator. I play games.

Life is a game. Your free to think what you want, but I feel you may have taken it the wrong way. Just because a plethora of possibilities are available, doesn't mean you automatically lose quality in the area you prefer. Instead of trivial things it's more a group of fully functioning playstyles coexisting in a symbiotic manner. The crafter make stuff for those who don't while the warriors protect them and mages do Mage things etc. everyone making up for what those around them lack. A few people may become prevalent in all manner of abilities, making their own toys and finding their way alone. Others may specialize and form bonds with others who chose needed paths. The wonderment is not from a great deal of pointless distractions but from an organic working world moved by the will of players working in harmony. 

Life is a game? Let's use another term. Life is not an entertainment product. I don't have to do things i don't want in a game. I can quit whenever i want (at least i cannot quit life without hurting my family). 

Still .. you talk a lot in general. Any specifics. What are all these fantastic "organic world world moved by the will of players working in harmony"? I haven't seen it in games. It is more like loot drama and rage quiting. People don't work in harmony. You should have learned that from life. 

 

  ArChWind

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3/16/13 10:46:09 AM#65

an emotional linking of ones inner personality to the environment one is interacting with

  Sevenstar61

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3/16/13 10:50:23 AM#66

For me it' a story and my emotional relationship with my character. When I actually live in MMO and feel part of the universe, world - that's what I call depth in MMO.

Everybody of course has a different way how to achieve it.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
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  Loktofeit

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3/16/13 11:51:43 AM#67
Originally posted by Icewhite
Originally posted by Loktofeit


One could write a feature list that would probably get 9 out of 10 MMO gamers to drool, however each of those 9 people has a completely different game in mind when reading it.

You can call someone out for reification once in a while; but forums won't ever stop using the undefined terms as concretes.

'Reification'--you're just trying to 'sound smart'.

I learned a new word today. Interesting to find there is an actual term for it.

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