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  Distopia

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3/11/13 3:11:05 PM#21
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by Distopia

It's a good tool to use as melee against kiters in PVP. Many including myself used it to great effect against riflemen, pistoleers and bh's  in SWG, I actually had it in one of my Macro's. follow, burst run, then one hand lunge was the exact macro. Never had a problem with ranged classes using it.

 

SWG let's you autofollow enemy pvp opponents? That seems wrong philosophically speaking. Or at least a good explination why I sucked.

Yes it did let you, there was a lot of CC as well as DOT's to worry about in PVP-- IE applying fire blankets, poison cures, using stims to heal, all the while trying to dish out more damage than your opponent. Add to that posture changing attacks (if you're standing they make you kneel, etc..), no form of snare/root on ranged abilities, ranged classes clould be extremely dangerous given the right skill loudout/equipment.

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  AZHokie54

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3/11/13 3:12:21 PM#22
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3460

3/11/13 3:18:04 PM#23
Originally posted by AZHokie54
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

Naaa, rather have follow. Lifes to short and full of waiting. When I log in I want to have fun and if you think it takes 45 seconds for a wife to pee I know your not married. I also forgot to list, when the kid falls out of bed, when the in laws call, when your team mate has a knock at the door. All the short RL stuff, why keep taking AFK breaks when that 1 team mate can /follow for a few min and deal with it. I get so little time to game I want to get the most out of what I can.

  Distopia

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Joined: 11/22/05
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3/11/13 3:21:36 PM#24
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

using a mechnic = abusing a mechanic? I could have always just let the rifleman rape my mind pool I suppose.

Using a mechanic in an way thats unintended is abusing a mechanic, yes. I mean, how much different is auto follow for a melee chasing down a ranged character to someone in an FPS using auto aim? 

Who's to judge what the intention of that mechanic was? DId you play SWG pre-cu, PVP was a choatic mess when it came to all of the factors you were facing, macro's and tactics were extremely important due to how many things of the micro-management variety a player had to deal with. This is just thinking in terms of a one on one fight.

I used the follow command so i could focus on healing all the dots, sustaining through CC'd moments which fire-blankets and poison cures were extremely important, holding out that pixie use until the last second before my mind gave out. While trying to lunge attack the kiter, and kd-dizzy them, switching weapons and armor (mostly helms) was another area where focus had to be, I only have two hands.

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  GrayGhost79

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Posts: 4888

3/11/13 3:24:49 PM#25
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by AZHokie54
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

Naaa, rather have follow. Lifes to short and full of waiting. When I log in I want to have fun and if you think it takes 45 seconds for a wife to pee I know your not married. I also forgot to list, when the kid falls out of bed, when the in laws call, when your team mate has a knock at the door. All the short RL stuff, why keep taking AFK breaks when that 1 team mate can /follow for a few min and deal with it. I get so little time to game I want to get the most out of what I can.

If you are AFK auto following you aren't really getting anything out of the game. In any case, like I said. It's a luxury that everyone can live without. It simply isn't needed. For me it's not worth adding something like that since it can be abused and used to aggrivate and annoy. 

 

But I guess we are simply going to differ in opinion on it. You vote yes, I vote no.

  ShakyMo

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Joined: 11/21/11
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3/11/13 3:27:06 PM#26
I also hope it doesn't support bloody macros.
  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
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3/11/13 3:28:08 PM#27
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by AZHokie54
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

Naaa, rather have follow. Lifes to short and full of waiting. When I log in I want to have fun and if you think it takes 45 seconds for a wife to pee I know your not married. I also forgot to list, when the kid falls out of bed, when the in laws call, when your team mate has a knock at the door. All the short RL stuff, why keep taking AFK breaks when that 1 team mate can /follow for a few min and deal with it. I get so little time to game I want to get the most out of what I can.

If you are AFK auto following you aren't really getting anything out of the game. In any case, like I said. It's a luxury that everyone can live without. It simply isn't needed. For me it's not worth adding something like that since it can be abused and used to aggrivate and annoy. 

 

But I guess we are simply going to differ in opinion on it. You vote yes, I vote no.

What abuse? You mean botters? They dont use a follow command, they make programing that plays for them. Complex scripting that tells them who to follow and what to assist and kill. Only players use /follow and the games that left out follow as of late has had the worest botting I have ever seen. If you mean for PvP, then dont allow follow in PvP, thats easy code. If its abuse outside of that, of what do you speak?

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
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3/11/13 3:38:25 PM#28
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by AZHokie54
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

Naaa, rather have follow. Lifes to short and full of waiting. When I log in I want to have fun and if you think it takes 45 seconds for a wife to pee I know your not married. I also forgot to list, when the kid falls out of bed, when the in laws call, when your team mate has a knock at the door. All the short RL stuff, why keep taking AFK breaks when that 1 team mate can /follow for a few min and deal with it. I get so little time to game I want to get the most out of what I can.

If you are AFK auto following you aren't really getting anything out of the game. In any case, like I said. It's a luxury that everyone can live without. It simply isn't needed. For me it's not worth adding something like that since it can be abused and used to aggrivate and annoy. 

 

But I guess we are simply going to differ in opinion on it. You vote yes, I vote no.

What abuse? You mean botters? They dont use a follow command, they make programing that plays for them. Complex scripting that tells them who to follow and what to assist and kill. Only players use /follow and the games that left out follow as of late has had the worest botting I have ever seen. If you mean for PvP, then dont allow follow in PvP, thats easy code. If its abuse outside of that, of what do you speak?

Lets see, how can it be abused?

1) Players dual boxing another character to Power Level them. 

2) Auto follow can be used in macros to make PvE mindlessly easy, especially when there is real time or more action based combat involved. 

3) It allows players to dual box and bypass invnetory restrictions. 

4) Lazy players will use this to travel (While not exactly abuse, it annoys the hell out of me when someone auto follows me which is why I find ways to kill them). 

5) Yes, a number of ways in PvP but you stated you want it seperated which is not as easy as you think. The coding itself isn't that hard, the testing to make sure it isn't impacting any other systems or code negatively isn't. 

6) It makes it that much easier for bots and such which you decided to bring up while I wasn't even mentioning them. I was just focusing on players abusing it, but yes you have a good point by bringing up botting. Botting is made easier by mechanics like this. 

 

If I wasn't pressed for time I'm sure I could list more. You will have to settle with this one off the top of my head for now though. 

  Nanfoodle

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Joined: 5/23/06
Posts: 3460

3/11/13 3:46:46 PM#29
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by AZHokie54
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

Naaa, rather have follow. Lifes to short and full of waiting. When I log in I want to have fun and if you think it takes 45 seconds for a wife to pee I know your not married. I also forgot to list, when the kid falls out of bed, when the in laws call, when your team mate has a knock at the door. All the short RL stuff, why keep taking AFK breaks when that 1 team mate can /follow for a few min and deal with it. I get so little time to game I want to get the most out of what I can.

If you are AFK auto following you aren't really getting anything out of the game. In any case, like I said. It's a luxury that everyone can live without. It simply isn't needed. For me it's not worth adding something like that since it can be abused and used to aggrivate and annoy. 

 

But I guess we are simply going to differ in opinion on it. You vote yes, I vote no.

What abuse? You mean botters? They dont use a follow command, they make programing that plays for them. Complex scripting that tells them who to follow and what to assist and kill. Only players use /follow and the games that left out follow as of late has had the worest botting I have ever seen. If you mean for PvP, then dont allow follow in PvP, thats easy code. If its abuse outside of that, of what do you speak?

Lets see, how can it be abused?

1) Players dual boxing another character to Power Level them. 

2) Auto follow can be used in macros to make PvE mindlessly easy, especially when there is real time or more action based combat involved. 

3) It allows players to dual box and bypass invnetory restrictions. 

4) Lazy players will use this to travel (While not exactly abuse, it annoys the hell out of me when someone auto follows me which is why I find ways to kill them). 

5) Yes, a number of ways in PvP but you stated you want it seperated which is not as easy as you think. The coding itself isn't that hard, the testing to make sure it isn't impacting any other systems or code negatively isn't. 

6) It makes it that much easier for bots and such which you decided to bring up while I wasn't even mentioning them. I was just focusing on players abusing it, but yes you have a good point by bringing up botting. Botting is made easier by mechanics like this. 

 

If I wasn't pressed for time I'm sure I could list more. You will have to settle with this one off the top of my head for now though. 

WoW had it and its easy code, if they are in your team/raid you can follow them. If you can attack it, you cant /follow. As for lazzy players who randomly follow a stranger thats not abuse thats just dumb and like you, I would leave them in really odd places to teach them a lession, but there is no harm to the game for them doing so. As for dual boxers, that does not work in action combat MMOs like ESO. Healing is not some skill you can keep clicking 1 to heal and win. Ground effects and dodging and blocking are required and this is long past EQ and WoW days. As for botters, they still dont use the follow command. Its programing. 

  GrayGhost79

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Posts: 4888

3/11/13 3:56:06 PM#30
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by AZHokie54
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by Vrika
I think they should not add follow command. Because AFK, botting and multiboxing aren't really desirable playing styles.

I have never been fine with taking away things from players because a small % use them for bad things. My wife often goes AFK to pee while she /follows me to where ever we are going. I think ESO staff can come up with better ways to stop botting, as I have seen games without follow still have bots following. 

/signed, I want /follow command!

Or, you could just wait the 45 seconds it takes your wife to take a piss.

Who would have thought?

 

Naaa, rather have follow. Lifes to short and full of waiting. When I log in I want to have fun and if you think it takes 45 seconds for a wife to pee I know your not married. I also forgot to list, when the kid falls out of bed, when the in laws call, when your team mate has a knock at the door. All the short RL stuff, why keep taking AFK breaks when that 1 team mate can /follow for a few min and deal with it. I get so little time to game I want to get the most out of what I can.

If you are AFK auto following you aren't really getting anything out of the game. In any case, like I said. It's a luxury that everyone can live without. It simply isn't needed. For me it's not worth adding something like that since it can be abused and used to aggrivate and annoy. 

 

But I guess we are simply going to differ in opinion on it. You vote yes, I vote no.

What abuse? You mean botters? They dont use a follow command, they make programing that plays for them. Complex scripting that tells them who to follow and what to assist and kill. Only players use /follow and the games that left out follow as of late has had the worest botting I have ever seen. If you mean for PvP, then dont allow follow in PvP, thats easy code. If its abuse outside of that, of what do you speak?

Lets see, how can it be abused?

1) Players dual boxing another character to Power Level them. 

2) Auto follow can be used in macros to make PvE mindlessly easy, especially when there is real time or more action based combat involved. 

3) It allows players to dual box and bypass invnetory restrictions. 

4) Lazy players will use this to travel (While not exactly abuse, it annoys the hell out of me when someone auto follows me which is why I find ways to kill them). 

5) Yes, a number of ways in PvP but you stated you want it seperated which is not as easy as you think. The coding itself isn't that hard, the testing to make sure it isn't impacting any other systems or code negatively isn't. 

6) It makes it that much easier for bots and such which you decided to bring up while I wasn't even mentioning them. I was just focusing on players abusing it, but yes you have a good point by bringing up botting. Botting is made easier by mechanics like this. 

 

If I wasn't pressed for time I'm sure I could list more. You will have to settle with this one off the top of my head for now though. 

WoW had it and its easy code, if they are in your team/raid you can follow them. If you can attack it, you cant /follow. As for lazzy players who randomly follow a stranger thats not abuse thats just dumb and like you, I would leave them in really odd places to teach them a lession, but there is no harm to the game for them doing so. As for dual boxers, that does not work in action combat MMOs like ESO. Healing is not some skill you can keep clicking 1 to heal and win. Ground effects and dodging and blocking are required and this is long past EQ and WoW days. As for botters, they still dont use the follow command. Its programing. 

Re-read what I posted, coding it is fairly easy. Insuring that code isn't affecting other mechanics or lines of code negatively is a bit more difficult. Everything you add can have an unexpected impact on other things in coding which is why so many games are plauged with bugs and such that can take forever and a day to finally fix if you ever do. 

 

The rest still stands, sorry if you don't like it but those are things possible with auto follow. Sure, healing may not take 1 button to heal (Though usually it does) but there are funny things called macros that allow you to turn multi action activities into a single button use. Don't forget, you don't have to target them because you already are targeting them due to the auto follow lol. 

 

  winter

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3/11/13 4:01:36 PM#31
Originally posted by Prepared

Please have a follow command where a player can follow anyone on his faction side.  This allows many players to enjoy the game by staying with a partner in combat in Player versus Environment (PvE) or Player versus Player (PvP).  Please do NOT make the mistake that some other MMO's have been making by not including this option.

By having this option in the game, the play style is open for many different types of players as well as those that don't care to use it.

  Humm how much do we want auto-follow two boxing buff botting?

 I'd say if you can't stay with your partner in combat on your own you probably have enough problems you shouldn't be in combat.

  winter

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3/11/13 4:11:32 PM#32
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Many different types of players

E.g. buff bots, multi boxers, people paying farmers to level them

NO THANKS

That wont stop them, look at GW2 that removed the follow command and they still botted more then any MMO I have seen. /follow only helps players who play the game.

  No, in all fairness it helps both.

 But lets ask what is the real reason auto follow is needed? yes its handy to go afk once in awhile to answer phone/door, get food, do a bio break etc.

  However it leads to many abuses.The afk'ers on auto follow soaking up exp in pvp/pve. Goinginto a Fight in PVP/PVE just to find someone in your groups gone AFK on auto follow without saying anything etc.

  For me the bad out weights the good. Games are to played not to go on auto follow and soak exp while you mainly watch tv etc. If you want your Alt to level do it the old fashioned way actually play it as a main rather then to boxing it along.

 

  waynejr2

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3/11/13 4:55:15 PM#33
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by waynejr2
I have never seen a great reason for /follow.  So I vote no.

You never had to go to the bathroom while you and a buddy were running from Freeport to Qeynos in EQ.

 Not a good reason just lazy/impatient.  Why didn't you poop before we left Freeport?

Options:

1)  Wait, it should only be a few minutes...Unless it takes longer than a few minutes then add fiber or see a Dr.

2)  Poopsocks.

3)  Do we really need to go futher than poopsocks?

  Maephisto

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3/11/13 6:36:27 PM#34
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by waynejr2
I have never seen a great reason for /follow.  So I vote no.

You never had to go to the bathroom while you and a buddy were running from Freeport to Qeynos in EQ.

 Not a good reason just lazy/impatient.  Why didn't you poop before we left Freeport?

Options:

1)  Wait, it should only be a few minutes...Unless it takes longer than a few minutes then add fiber or see a Dr.

2)  Poopsocks.

3)  Do we really need to go futher than poopsocks?

Yes please.

  waynejr2

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3/11/13 11:55:53 PM#35
Originally posted by Maephisto
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by waynejr2
I have never seen a great reason for /follow.  So I vote no.

You never had to go to the bathroom while you and a buddy were running from Freeport to Qeynos in EQ.

 Not a good reason just lazy/impatient.  Why didn't you poop before we left Freeport?

Options:

1)  Wait, it should only be a few minutes...Unless it takes longer than a few minutes then add fiber or see a Dr.

2)  Poopsocks.

3)  Do we really need to go futher than poopsocks?

Yes please.

 Poopshoes, pooppants, poopunderwear,poopshirt,poophat.

  Kinchyle

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3/12/13 12:03:30 AM#36
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Maephisto
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by waynejr2
I have never seen a great reason for /follow.  So I vote no.

You never had to go to the bathroom while you and a buddy were running from Freeport to Qeynos in EQ.

 Not a good reason just lazy/impatient.  Why didn't you poop before we left Freeport?

Options:

1)  Wait, it should only be a few minutes...Unless it takes longer than a few minutes then add fiber or see a Dr.

2)  Poopsocks.

3)  Do we really need to go futher than poopsocks?

Yes please.

 Poopshoes, pooppants, poopunderwear,poopshirt,poophat.

lol!  Giggleriffic

I think the follow command was a nice perk back in the day. I hear/see all these people talking about boxing, botting, pooping and whatnot. Why is that your business? I see it as a way to take a break and have the person not on break lead to the next area. Would love it in GW2 even. Saying that bots would use it is kinda stupid since they don't seem to need it. I've seen groups of bots in certain areas of GW2 and they don't have the follow command. Must be because they don't need it. So...not a factor in follow?

 

Edit - Should ask....do you people think that the follow command let you gather resources also? And fight? Cause it doesn't. So it might just be for following (I know...hard to grasp) a person around while afk? Maybe?

  GrayGhost79

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3/12/13 3:28:09 AM#37
Originally posted by Kinchyle
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Maephisto
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Zorgo
Originally posted by waynejr2
I have never seen a great reason for /follow.  So I vote no.

You never had to go to the bathroom while you and a buddy were running from Freeport to Qeynos in EQ.

 Not a good reason just lazy/impatient.  Why didn't you poop before we left Freeport?

Options:

1)  Wait, it should only be a few minutes...Unless it takes longer than a few minutes then add fiber or see a Dr.

2)  Poopsocks.

3)  Do we really need to go futher than poopsocks?

Yes please.

 Poopshoes, pooppants, poopunderwear,poopshirt,poophat.

lol!  Giggleriffic

I think the follow command was a nice perk back in the day. I hear/see all these people talking about boxing, botting, pooping and whatnot. Why is that your business? I see it as a way to take a break and have the person not on break lead to the next area. Would love it in GW2 even. Saying that bots would use it is kinda stupid since they don't seem to need it. I've seen groups of bots in certain areas of GW2 and they don't have the follow command. Must be because they don't need it. So...not a factor in follow?

 

Edit - Should ask....do you people think that the follow command let you gather resources also? And fight? Cause it doesn't. So it might just be for following (I know...hard to grasp) a person around while afk? Maybe?

I'm glad you asked instead of making assumptions. Having dual boxed Power Leveled myself among other things in some games I can answer this. No, it's not just used for following while afk. 

 

1) Many use it to power level themselves. Take a higher level healing character or even an equal level healing character on a seperate screen and have them auto follow the character you are going to use to fight with. Need a heal? Simply switch focus onto the screen with your healer and hit your macro then go back to your fighting character and continue on. 

2) In a game with more action oriented combat that requires you to manually aim at things, auto follow allows you to lock on and follow thus negating the manual aim the game requires. It can easily be added to a variety of macros that would make manual combat a trivial thing. 

 

What people think is that it can and has been abused in the past. Why would this game be any different? 

  Shroom_Mage

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3/12/13 3:29:24 AM#38

The best argument in favor of autofollow is so you can go to the bathroom while another player continues to run you to your destination? That's it?

If that's the best you can come up with, then my vote is a resounding "NO".

You don't need something to automate any aspect of the game, and that includes traveling. What do you do when there are enemies around? What if you're in a dungeon? You wait. There's no reason you need some special command for walking around while AFK.

This isn't even about botting. It's about laziness. You don't need macros, and you don't need autofollow, especially not for combat purposes as the OP asks.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." -Dr. Seuss

  Prepared

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OP  2/12/14 2:14:38 AM#39
Originally posted by winter
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Many different types of players

E.g. buff bots, multi boxers, people paying farmers to level them

NO THANKS

That wont stop them, look at GW2 that removed the follow command and they still botted more then any MMO I have seen. /follow only helps players who play the game.

  No, in all fairness it helps both.

 But lets ask what is the real reason auto follow is needed? yes its handy to go afk once in awhile to answer phone/door, get food, do a bio break etc.

  However it leads to many abuses.The afk'ers on auto follow soaking up exp in pvp/pve. Goinginto a Fight in PVP/PVE just to find someone in your groups gone AFK on auto follow without saying anything etc.

  For me the bad out weights the good. Games are to played not to go on auto follow and soak exp while you mainly watch tv etc. If you want your Alt to level do it the old fashioned way actually play it as a main rather then to boxing it along.

 

 

Guild Wars 2 was the most botted MMO of all time.  I agree with the reply of the person that stated it.  Guild Wars 2 never had a follow command.  It wasn't removed, it never had it to begin with.

How can someone following another player while afk soak up exp in pvp/pve if the one following is not attacking or casting anything?  Are you assuming they are in the same group?  If so, you're saying that someone grouped with another person getting shared experience is abuse?  I don't quite follow how you're saying it leads to abuse, sorry.

There is no bad to having a follow command in an MMO.  As stated, by having the follow command, it doesn't allow any kind of abuse.  Abuse of game mechanics happens through other means.  If the follow command allowed more abuse, the MMOs with it would have more abuse than those without it.  But it has already been proven with Guild Wars 2 that's not the case.

There is a bad to NOT having a follow command.  The bad is...   No follow command leads to an MMO that is not on par with other other full fledged MMOs on the market.  Especially one that has a subscription.  If ESO is going to have a subscription without a follow command, it will have severely lacking functionality that exists in other MMOs today and ones released many years ago.

Why not include the features and functionality expected in a subscription based MMO?

 

 

  Gadareth

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2/12/14 2:22:11 AM#40

Ahhhh auto follow back in the day I remember an entire raiding party of 30 - 40 people dieing because we were on auto follow to get to the Temple of Veeshan only problem was we were auto following a monk. Who forgot that not all classes had high safe fall ... Raid wiped before even reaching the dungeon door.

 

 

 

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