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General Discussion  » Poll: Do you want pulls, knock backs, and leaps in CU?

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  Odaman

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Joined: 2/17/13
Posts: 195

 
OP  3/09/13 8:01:42 PM#1
Since these are tied with Collision Detection, I wanted to focus on them since some hate them and some people love them. Personally I think they were a step in the wrong direction the moment they entered the genre.

Would you like to see pulls, knock backs, and leaps in CU?

Yes to all 3
No to all 3
Yes to some, no to others (explain in a post)
Pie
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  Niix_Ozek

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Joined: 2/26/13
Posts: 404

3/09/13 8:03:05 PM#2
Hate them, almost as much as I hate CD

Ozek - DAOC
Niix - Other games that sucked

  Niix_Ozek

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Joined: 2/26/13
Posts: 404

3/09/13 8:03:50 PM#3
If people who want CD because it is more realistic also want this, I will call BS

Ozek - DAOC
Niix - Other games that sucked

  KappenWiz

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Joined: 12/06/07
Posts: 163

3/09/13 8:16:52 PM#4

Again, this is way too early for these types of questions, but in a (very) general sense: Not too crazy about pulls or leaps, although if implemented in certain very limited ways, could see them expanding playstyles and strategy.

Knockdowns, not AOE knockdowns or knockbacks, but, single target tripping or knockdown for a second could change a lot of things, including tank trains and running healers. Again, how it's implemented is key and therefore way pointless to discuss at this juncture. There was a shield trip in DAOC. It has a slightly different mechanic than what I'm talking about, but its not entirely out of the question here.

  Odaman

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Joined: 2/17/13
Posts: 195

 
OP  3/09/13 8:21:16 PM#5
Knockdowns are just another way to implement stun, so I didn't include them. The question is just for things that seem mandatory for a collision detection based combat system to work.
  Tokken

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Joined: 3/06/04
Posts: 1106

"I'm your Huckleberry!"

3/09/13 8:24:51 PM#6
and swimming.

Games I played that actually were meaningful to me: UO, EQ, EQ2, Daoc, CoH, Vanguard, Lotro, SWTOR, WOW... looking forward to Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen!

  Ice-Queen

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Joined: 1/02/08
Posts: 2465

"Always borrow money from a pessimist. They won't expect it back."

3/09/13 8:58:37 PM#7
No thanks, they're all cheesy.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQhfhnjYMk
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  Canan

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Joined: 4/21/10
Posts: 95

3/09/13 9:26:02 PM#8
No.
  Plastic-Metal

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Joined: 2/20/13
Posts: 423

3/09/13 9:35:42 PM#9
No thanks.  Knock backs in WAR were absolutely terrible.

My name is Plastic-Metal and my name is an oxymoron.

  BowbowDAoC

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Joined: 5/11/10
Posts: 482

3/09/13 10:20:55 PM#10

It was the thing tha ti hated the most in WAR, it was simply awful.

that fact alone would make me out of CU.

So hopefully it wont be present.

 

Bowbow (kob hunter) Infecto (kob cave shammy) and Thurka (troll warrior) on Merlin/Midgard DAoC
Thurka on WAR

  CluckingChicken

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Joined: 2/07/13
Posts: 54

3/09/13 10:23:00 PM#11
Mark mentioned that he would like knockbacks, so you grumpy old men that fear change are gonna be upset.
  JayFiveAlive

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Joined: 6/04/09
Posts: 527

3/09/13 10:42:47 PM#12
I loved the knockbacks and leaps in WAR. I really hope we see them in CU... <3 miss my lion dude. He was so much fun!
  Riposte.This

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Joined: 5/11/12
Posts: 195

Killing dragons is my shit

3/09/13 10:51:12 PM#13
Really? People actually have an issue with these things? No wonder MMO's suck, so many pussies playing them these days.

Killing dragons is my shit

  Bent

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Joined: 1/22/04
Posts: 577

3/09/13 10:58:40 PM#14
I like to be able to see where what is affectting me is coming from.  As such I am okay with melee knockbacks or leaps.  I am not a fan of pulls, as that IMO takes way to much control away from a player.  I think any movement skills should depend on armor.  That is a heavily armored toon want get knocked back as much or at all as a lightly armor toon, but they also won't be able to leap as much either.
  tokesh

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Joined: 2/11/13
Posts: 43

3/09/13 11:01:33 PM#15
Originally posted by CluckingChicken
Mark mentioned that he would like knockbacks, so you grumpy old men that fear change are gonna be upset.

It seems that the old people are the ones advocating CD and knockback stuff.

Maybe they're too old to remember how garbage AoC combat was?

  JayFiveAlive

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Posts: 527

3/09/13 11:28:58 PM#16

If you have no knockbacks or leads, what kind of gap closers or disrupters are there? Being stunned and not able to move is better?

  Odaman

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Joined: 2/17/13
Posts: 195

 
OP  3/09/13 11:28:58 PM#17
Originally posted by CluckingChicken
Mark mentioned that he would like knockbacks, so you grumpy old men that fear change are gonna be upset.

Source? I've read almost all of his posts here and watched/read a few interviews as well as the FP. I have yet to see him mention anything like that. My issue with them really is they cannot be countered. You can't purge a kb or a pull which is why it's another beast of cc... one more annoying than mez, stun, root, and snare. I'd still play the game with them... I just think they're more of an annoyance than adding to the game.

  Tumblebutz

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Posts: 338

3/09/13 11:49:53 PM#18

Put this on the list with graphic pets, flying mounts and Trials of Atlantis!

 

NO!

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RED IS DEAD!

  fanglo

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Posts: 290

3/10/13 12:20:28 AM#19

Generally I don't have a problem with these 3 abilities but there are certian situations which you can't avoid which make them extremely annoying. It takes no skill to punt someone off a bridge, crippling that group. In War there was a particular bridge where it was ridiculous with the punts. you could punt off whole groups and such utter garbage.

As for the pulls, horrible idea. I even played a pull engineer in War for a while. pull everyone in and let the aoe casters finish em all off.

As for Leaps, I'm sorta on the fence. In rift there are leap backs which help you get away from the front lines. That has been abused though to help players jump up hills. I just think you need something to help the melee dps to close the gap and a leap is a viable way to do that. Though you could always use my suggestion of a burrow charge :p

I healed Mistwraith and all I got was this stupid tee-shirt!

  CluckingChicken

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Joined: 2/07/13
Posts: 54

3/10/13 12:24:33 AM#20
@Odaman, sorry, no quote button on the mobile site for whatever reason. It was one of his first interviews about the game I believe. He mentioned that he wanted to be able to knock people off of cliffs. I'll try to find the interview when I get home.
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