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  PsiKahn

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Joined: 12/26/12
Posts: 124

3/11/13 2:11:12 PM#21
The question I'm asking is whether people who could actually use the funding money to "kickstart" their design studios and make original content are getting boxed out by big names who are in it primarily as a way to presell copies of their game and not have to bother with publishing, even though they could easily attain the requisite funding.  Where in Garriott's pitch did he make the case that he Kickstarter is the only way he could fund this game?
  DavisFlight

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Joined: 9/25/12
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3/11/13 2:15:53 PM#22
Originally posted by birdycephon
There is something about kickstarter that makes me feel ill. Maybe its just the ammount of risk involved. I mean, whats stopper ng people from just collecting the money and running off with it?

Even after years, there are still people this ignorant about how kickstarter works?

  Blindchance

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3/11/13 5:06:19 PM#23
Originally posted by ScorpionOne
I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but I would love to see Lord British bring back Tabula Rasa in some incarnation.  That man has such ideas.  And I really wish him luck and pray to God that old school MMO's start to come back again.

You aren't alone on this one. I enjoyed TR beta, however I couldn't justify paying 15 $ per month The game  lacked content and it's pvp was rather poor, but with some sandbox elements, player controled terriotories, bases, it would be an amazing game. 

  SpottyGekko

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3/11/13 5:40:54 PM#24

If anything, the MMO "industry" may finally be reinventing itself. Instead of spending hundreds of millions trying to make the "one game that will bind them all", we are seeing multiple smaller productions focusing on specific niches.

 

Perhaps it's a combination of the fact that mega-games simply aren't giving any decent return on investment, coupled with a massive increase in the size of the potential online playerbase. It's actually  a viable proposition to make a game that only 5% of the total playerbase will play, because that 5% nowadays is equal to double the number of subs that any MMO had at it's peak 10 years ago.

 

You don't need to spend a 100 million to make a great game. You need a good design and devotion to your product and your intended fanbase. And don't try to aim at a fanbase that consists of "as many people as possible", because that is not a defined target audience. Instead, that is the road to ruin...

  Arglebargle

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Joined: 6/13/07
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3/11/13 11:35:09 PM#25
Originally posted by SpottyGekko

If anything, the MMO "industry" may finally be reinventing itself. Instead of spending hundreds of millions trying to make the "one game that will bind them all", we are seeing multiple smaller productions focusing on specific niches.

 

Perhaps it's a combination of the fact that mega-games simply aren't giving any decent return on investment, coupled with a massive increase in the size of the potential online playerbase. It's actually  a viable proposition to make a game that only 5% of the total playerbase will play, because that 5% nowadays is equal to double the number of subs that any MMO had at it's peak 10 years ago.

 

You don't need to spend a 100 million to make a great game. You need a good design and devotion to your product and your intended fanbase. And don't try to aim at a fanbase that consists of "as many people as possible", because that is not a defined target audience. Instead, that is the road to ruin...

Nice post!  Hope it does indeed evolve that way....for everyone's sake.

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  Khalathwyr

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3/12/13 3:47:23 AM#26
Originally posted by PsiKahn
The question I'm asking is whether people who could actually use the funding money to "kickstart" their design studios and make original content are getting boxed out by big names who are in it primarily as a way to presell copies of their game and not have to bother with publishing, even though they could easily attain the requisite funding.  Where in Garriott's pitch did he make the case that he Kickstarter is the only way he could fund this game?

Speaking for myself as a game consumer, I'd say it isn't hurting the "true" startups at all. I have taken part in 7 kickstarters so far and all of them are projects being made by people who have previously shipped a game that was successfull and that I have played. I would not take part in a Kickstarter ran by a true startup consisting of folks who I have never heard of or that have not successfully shipped a well recieved game.

 

Sure they could probably easily attain the requisite funding from publiishers or investors. However, in doing so they are subject to that same publisher or investors influencing the development process which often affects the game negatively.

 

Additionally, there is nothing to stop all these established industry vets from making games with new IPs but in the same old school style that obviously there is still significant demand for. They are probably mostly using established IPs at current with their first endeavors in Kickstarter to see if it's viable. We could start seeing these same old school guys launch new IPs via Kickstarter.

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