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  FARGIN_WAR

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2/27/13 4:26:07 PM#21

Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey-ey, goodbye.

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  pmreeb23

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2/27/13 6:37:51 PM#22
I'll put money down that Mythic/EA will announce Warhammer Online F2P within 2 months.
 

  GettCouped

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2/27/13 10:08:05 PM#23
Originally posted by WontoonRoo

The biggest issue with this game was that the cash shop was glaringly pay-to-win. When I tried out the game,

-Healing potions could only be bought in the cash shop. Admittedly, they are somewhat useless as they can't be used during combat and you regain HP quickly.

-Some heroes could only be bought with real money. The ones that could be bought with cash were incredibly expensive and required you to play around 800-1000 games to unlock one if you didn't want to spend money.

-Character masteries could only be used if you bought the heroes. Think "talent trees". Naturally, this provided a huge disadvantage for anyone who was playing heroes in the free rotation (which did not allow you to use the masteries). Mastery points could also be bought in the Cash Shop.

-Balancing. Any team with a healer pretty much won the game. Healers were tough to take down, and you are guaranteed dominate over any team composed of just any hero in the (gasp!) free rotation. A simple fix for this would have been to have a healer always available in the free rotation, but the devs did not like that idea and just kept it random. The Masteries also fall in this category, as free players are easily dominated by characters with masteries.

All in all, this game has been the most glaring example of "pay to win" that I have ever encountered in any Free to Play MMO due to the fact that the game is balanced toward the paying customers. T'is sad too, since the game would have been fun to play if they fixed their issues but instead found the game was an exercise of "how long until you get so frustrated you will crack and throw us your money".

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  User Deleted
2/27/13 10:12:59 PM#24
I don't really understand how this game even came about. Was it because scenarios were fairly popular in Warhammer years ago? So they figured that they would make a game that basically just offered that sort of experience, but with a cash shop? 
  MaxJac

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2/27/13 11:02:29 PM#25
Originally posted by endgame1
I don't really understand how this game even came about. Was it because scenarios were fairly popular in Warhammer years ago? So they figured that they would make a game that basically just offered that sort of experience, but with a cash shop? 

The idea was that since Age of Reckoning and Wrath of Heroes both used the same assets with minor alterations, the development of Wrath of Heroes could give more love to Age of Reckoning while likely also hoping to give Mythic Employees more job security. I never hated the idea, but I always preferred Age of Reckoning so I didn't get big into Wrath of Heroes.

Think of it this way. EA was looking for more titles to throw into their F2P box that they were building at the time. Mythic suggested something that was already mostly built. I don't think the project harmed anyone. If anything it likely made Mythic float a little better. I hope its closure doesn't impact WAR.

My only complaint about Wrath of Heroes coming into existance is that it should have been Age of Reckoning to go F2P. However, can you imagine going to EA and asking for a bunch of money to turn a struggling game into a F2P title? EA isn't the friendliest giant so I understand why they went the direction that they did.

  Lonzo

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2/28/13 1:38:05 AM#26
I hope the responible person for this crap idea was fired and wont be hired again in other gaming companies
  black_isle

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2/28/13 1:40:33 AM#27
And still, if  WAR went f2p today, i'd play it in a heartbeat. The art style, the unique classes full of character and the awesome ip alone is worth a download.
  MaxJac

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2/28/13 2:31:41 AM#28
Originally posted by black_isle
And still, if  WAR went f2p today, i'd play it in a heartbeat. The art style, the unique classes full of character and the awesome ip alone is worth a download.

Over time the classes have been more mirrored to the opposing faction. It isn't perfect but they retain some unique aspects. WAR is the reason for mountains of awesome concept art fleshing out Warhammer Fantasy and I think it translated well into the world. If it ever does go F2P against all shadows of doubt, maybe I will smash you on the field some day for the glory of Sigmar. :)

 
  Nidwin

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2/28/13 3:18:13 AM#29

Sad for the WoH players. Wish you all gals and guys the best.

F2P is a difficult subject for Warhammer online because it would attract people that have no idea what Warhammer Online AoR has become and which way Mythic has decieded to take for it.

  Varthander

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2/28/13 5:12:16 AM#30
Originally posted by pmreeb23
I'll put money down that Mythic/EA will announce Warhammer Online F2P within 2 months.
 

something tells me that before that they would close the game completely.

  Kabaal

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2/28/13 5:34:17 AM#31

Can't say i'm surprised, the whole thing was just a bit odd.

Sadly i doubt it means anything for the MMO, they've been content letting it rot until now and i can't see that changing.

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  aylwynn

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2/28/13 5:42:16 AM#32
Originally posted by achesoma
I'm so not understanding why time was wasted on this project instead of simply fixing WAR.  It had so much potential yet so poorly executed with so many issues. 

 

Amen. I guess EA just tried to milk some more money with this title.

  BattlesA

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2/28/13 8:15:32 AM#33
The Answer to all of your questions can be summed up in two words: Electronic Arts.
  Rohn

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2/28/13 8:51:30 AM#34
Originally posted by black_isle
And still, if  WAR went f2p today, i'd play it in a heartbeat. The art style, the unique classes full of character and the awesome ip alone is worth a download.

WAR is actually a fun game, Wrath was not.  They should have spent the resources on continuing the development of WAR instead of trying to cash in on the MOBA craze.

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  Aeonblades

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2/28/13 8:53:33 AM#35
Saw this coming, there hadn't been a serious update to the website since the beginning of the year. Sad to see, but with the limited developers and nil advertising budget.... In all honestly I expect them to make a return to the 3rd person MOBA later on, like they said this was a test of the waters imo.

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  Postal13

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2/28/13 9:16:02 AM#36
Oh, and I'm still waiting for them to add Skaven to WAR. Then I'll return.

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  MaxJac

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3/01/13 5:50:17 AM#37
Originally posted by Postal13
Oh, and I'm still waiting for them to add Skaven to WAR. Then I'll return.

Skaven were added, just now how people wanted. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't bad. Being a gutter runner was super fun and throwing allies onto walls as the rat ogre was awesome, especially when the ally didn't ask to be thrown.

The issue I took with it wasn't that they weren't full classes, but that they slapped the lore. WAR takes place in an alternate timeline in the franchise, this is happens even with Games Workshop stuff. However, it is still a slap in the face to even the alternate timeline. A witch hunter fighting alongside a skaven? The same ones that would burn down a town if they thought it would rid the world of a little chaos? They should have had skaven on destruction and other npcs for order, like the various mercenaries we see already modeled throughout the game.

  Jyiiga

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3/03/13 9:44:52 AM#38
Originally posted by tawess
at least they put together a nice swag-bag for WAR as a parting gift.

Not really...

  Drakonus

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3/03/13 11:55:17 AM#39
Originally posted by christwood
Bah, they should have just made Warhammer Online f2p instead of wasting funds on this garbage.

Agreed...I'd still be playing WAR if it were F2P, but now I've got GW2 :-).

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  an0maly33

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3/03/13 12:57:24 PM#40
Also had no idea this existed.
 
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