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3/01/13 8:25:37 AM#81
Originally posted by tintilinic
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Djildjamesh
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by tintilinic
Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

Please, list features that Wildstar is 'cloning' from WoW that aren't generic to the MMO genre itself and present in most titles...





How about big yellow exclaimation marks?

actually the marks came from diablo 2

Mark Kern:

They were my fault to begin with, at least partially. You see, I worked on World of Warcraft, the most quest-hub heavy game in existence. I even helped come up with that dang exclamation mark, borrowing it from Diablo 2 and being inspired by Metal Gear Solid.

Check and mate!

Since when are Diablo 2 and Metal Gear Solid MMOs?

Nobody claims WoWs original (as its also copy) but since it actually made MMOs popular (why even mention some obscure games or non MMOs) and lot of games blatantly cloned it (yes WoW, not EQ or Diable or "insert game here" because they wanted piece of the action)  Wildstars devs saying "its not like WoW" have no weight. Prove it, words are not enough, not any more, and pictures tell different story.

Thats beside the point. The point is, WoW did not invent that feature. 


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3/01/13 8:58:05 AM#82
Originally posted by tintilinic

Cant really tell yet, but as title certanly sounds so as they release more and more.

And you cant really blame people for being overly cautious, how many times have developers promised rainbows and unicorns but delievered a turd? Its actually good thing, if game proves (accent on PROVES, not PROMISES) to be good it will succeed, hope that hype trains vanish based on experience of people.

fair enough - we havent heard what the endgame will be like for non-raiders yet


for now,

only raids have been described in detail as part of the endgame

so many people are assuming the worst that Wildstar will ONLY be raids at endgame


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3/02/13 3:50:45 PM#83
Originally posted by Nadia
Originally posted by tintilinic

Cant really tell yet, but as title certanly sounds so as they release more and more.

And you cant really blame people for being overly cautious, how many times have developers promised rainbows and unicorns but delievered a turd? Its actually good thing, if game proves (accent on PROVES, not PROMISES) to be good it will succeed, hope that hype trains vanish based on experience of people.

fair enough - we havent heard what the endgame will be like for non-raiders yet


for now,

only raids have been described in detail as part of the endgame

so many people are assuming the worst that Wildstar will ONLY be raids at endgame


Yes, but usual answer is "wait and see" and in majority of that "wait and see" turns out to be the worst and then those who said "wait and see" change it to "take it or leave it its how it is stop whining go back to "insert not loved MMO"...

One thing they have to understand people dont want 5th rate content 8yah not even second rate) and while they say and promise solo endgame....i aprove people questioning it ;P


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3/02/13 4:00:11 PM#84
This is the most useless and uninformative statement that is ever made, every time a new MMO is released. It's like each time someone starts one of these stupid threads, they think they've stumbled upon some big state secret that they have to reveal to the world. Do you honestly think that this exact same statement hasn't been applied to nearly evvery MMORPG in the last 9 years? It has lost any meaning whatsoever because people  abuse it in a self-serving fashion to to denigrate games that aren't being developed to suit them. We get it, you've condemend it in your mind as a clone because it's not designed around your wants, fine. Move on and stop making ridiculous generalized statements that are made with the release of every single MMO that's come out in the last 9 years.

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3/08/13 4:09:43 AM#85
The problem is that the game was advertised as a sandpark, but I really don't see much sand right now.

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3/08/13 12:34:43 PM#86

Just wanted to correct some mis-information on this thread.

Housing was in mmo's way before DAoC and so was dying objects. Actualy housing was kind of a normal feature back in the day.  Now its rarely done.



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3/08/13 12:40:15 PM#87
Originally posted by Karteli




Q: Is housing instanced? And exactly how are there house battle zones going to work?

A: Housing is instanced. The War Plot system is the “housing” battle system.

Q: Is housing mobile? Will it be like UO where certain spots were coveted for being near good mining?

A: Housing is instanced.

Q: Can I attack someone else’s house?

A: Not currently.

Q: What kinda of stuff can we add to our houses ?

A: All the things – even functional items.


Kind of disappointing.  The housing trailer made it look like housing would be un-instanced, on floating islands, where you could visit and inspect others property - even friends if you knew their address / coordinates in the 3D sky.


That would have made the game interesting for me, despite me not liking the hand holding combat system.


The trailer did have weaponized islands though, so I guess that is the future plans of attacking another house.  Very odd that a potentially cool system isn't being talked about, just a snippy "not currently."   I guess house vs house (HvH? lol) is going to be instanced also in some kind of arena battleground .. disappointing.


Totally not interested in the game now. I was willing to look past some of the handholding if the housing was done good. UO housing was my favorite. Player vendors and all...Disappointing that yet another game is going WoW clone with a few added features tacked on.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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3/08/13 12:50:52 PM#88
Originally posted by EvolvedMonky

Just wanted to correct some mis-information on this thread.

Housing was in mmo's way before DAoC and so was dying objects. Actualy housing was kind of a normal feature back in the day.  Now its rarely done.


If anything, WoW killed housing. 


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3/08/13 1:00:15 PM#89
The fact they're focusing on instances as the core for their PvP system makes it an automatic no buy for me. TESO has the type of PvP I want (DAOC style RvR), so that's probably the only MMO I'll buy this year.

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3/08/13 1:45:01 PM#90
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Nanfoodle
Originally posted by DavisFlight
Originally posted by Djildjamesh

40m raids


well it's been a while since we've seen that.

I'am willing to give it a shot just for that ^^

Oh man. People are excited about 40 man raids? Has the MMO genre really devolved so much that such a mundane feature is EXCITING?

I loved the large scale raids in DAoC to get respec gems. Was fun getting together with 40-80 players. How is a large scale raids mundane?

I would never call a 40 man raid "large scale". DAoC and EQ had large scale raids. A 40 person instanced raid is a rather bland, small, skillless affair.

ah but DAOC and (early) EQ raids were  OPEN WORLD


these guys are on about wow style raids

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