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  Doogiehowser

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2/27/13 3:05:41 AM#61

Why people even bother replying to topics like these? every time a new MMO is about to release some special snowflake had to make a WOW comparison. it is like a clock work.

I know i am also replying to this topic now and bumping it up but i really had to ask. Wouldn't it be great just let such lcliche topics die? nothing good comes out of these discussions anyways. Why give attention to OP?

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  Nanfoodle

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2/27/13 8:05:09 AM#62
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Why people even bother replying to topics like these? every time a new MMO is about to release some special snowflake had to make a WOW comparison. it is like a clock work.

I know i am also replying to this topic now and bumping it up but i really had to ask. Wouldn't it be great just let such lcliche topics die? nothing good comes out of these discussions anyways. Why give attention to OP?

Because when you have been reading up on a game and you know the facts about it and some yahoo starts a thread saying, dont play this game its all instanced and will fail, and then you get fools posting. Thanks for the info, guess I will pass on this game. Then you have to set the record straight. The PvE world is one persistant map with no zones. Im not sure why people make up crap about games, its like they want to see them fail and that I dont get. Every new MMO that does well, only makes sure we get better MMOs and adds to the depth of our gaming. So ya I get a little ticked when people game bash when there is no reason to bash, or they make up a reason.

  FromHell

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2/27/13 8:08:13 AM#63
It pretty much LOOKS like WoW, wouldn´t wonder if it PLAYS like WoW... probably same target audience...

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  Margulis

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2/27/13 8:24:33 AM#64
Originally posted by Rthuth434

Much like Rift, this game is sounding more and more like World of Warcraft with a slightly different set of instanced features tacked onto it.

 

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/wildstar-arkship-answers-community-questions/

Yeah I agree.  It's possible their set of unique features may make it a bit more fun but overall yes it's very much in the same vein.  Using the term Wow clone incites a lot of ridiculous rebut - I would just say it seems very generic themepark ish on a lot of levels.

  Margulis

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2/27/13 8:25:41 AM#65
Originally posted by Nadia

WOW did not have housing or dyed armor

 

and none of the questions asked about what players can do at endgame

As the OP said, just like every other clone to date "with it's own set of a few unique features"

  birdycephon

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2/27/13 8:31:35 AM#66
Originally posted by Margulis
Originally posted by Nadia

WOW did not have housing or dyed armor

 

and none of the questions asked about what players can do at endgame

As the OP said, just like every other clone to date "with it's own set of a few unique features"

Well then every MMO is a clone, cuz they all have a character that you control, and you have skills, and you kill stuff... need I go on? 

  Doogiehowser

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2/27/13 8:37:49 AM#67
Originally posted by FromHell
It pretty much LOOKS like WoW, wouldn´t wonder if it PLAYS like WoW... probably same target audience...

Look like WOW as in graphic style? only because it has a stylised look doesn't mean its look like WOW. Unless it was WOW who invented stylised graphics.

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  Margulis

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2/27/13 11:34:13 AM#68
Originally posted by Varthander
Originally posted by Rthuth434

Much like Rift, this game is sounding more and more like World of Warcraft with a slightly different set of instanced features tacked onto it.

 

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/wildstar-arkship-answers-community-questions/

"Facepalm"

 

The funniest thing about that article is how it talks about how exciting the news of 40 man raids are. Are you kidding me??!! There's a reason those were phased out and you don't see them anymore - because they are a GIANT pain in the ass!! Getting 20 people on the same page to show up on time is hard enough, god don't remind me of the nights of pain and suffering trying to get 40 people on the same page.......... For every 1 person that's going to be excited about that there are likely 50-100 groaning.
  TheYear1500

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2/28/13 1:38:23 AM#69
Originally posted by Margulis
Originally posted by Varthander
Originally posted by Rthuth434

Much like Rift, this game is sounding more and more like World of Warcraft with a slightly different set of instanced features tacked onto it.

 

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/wildstar-arkship-answers-community-questions/

"Facepalm"

 

The funniest thing about that article is how it talks about how exciting the news of 40 man raids are. Are you kidding me??!! There's a reason those were phased out and you don't see them anymore - because they are a GIANT pain in the ass!! Getting 20 people on the same page to show up on time is hard enough, god don't remind me of the nights of pain and suffering trying to get 40 people on the same page.......... For every 1 person that's going to be excited about that there are likely 50-100 groaning.

Yep it is just a bad idea.  Also if you look at the videos it is clear that friendly aoe's show up on the ground so it is going to be a cluster f, your screan just lighting up in blue, with out any clear idea what spell is what.   

  Siveria

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2/28/13 1:47:25 AM#70
Originally posted by Nadia

WOW did not have housing or dyed armor

 

and none of the questions asked about what players can do at endgame

Those are pretty minor things, and endgame? it'll be the same pointless raiding that every other mmorpg uses. Except maybe they will get smart and add in a use for the raid gear to make it worth getting it. Outside of more raids, be nice if the raid gear was the best pvp gear too. That would make raiding actually worth it. I've played wow, rift, and lots of other mmorpgs get to level cap, then just quit, because the endgame is completly pointless and a waste of peoples time.. yet people are stupid enough to fall for it. Bascally i want a mmorpg to have raiding, and have the raid gear serve purposes outside of raiding, like endgame pvp best gear, and such.

But yeah, Wildstar honestly just looks like the newest exact copy of wow, with a few very minor extra's. Housing and dyeable armor, won't mask the fact the game is bascally just wow in a new skin. Yet people are going to fall for the same shit again like all the other mmo's. They'll buy it, then most of them will quit before their included month is up, maybe the game will keep very few for a 2nd month. Its the usual pattern, since mmo's today allow you to hit the level cap way to fast, IMO they need to make it not so soloable and make it take a few months.

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A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

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  Margulis

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2/28/13 3:34:07 PM#71
Originally posted by birdycephon
Originally posted by Margulis
Originally posted by Nadia

WOW did not have housing or dyed armor

 

and none of the questions asked about what players can do at endgame

As the OP said, just like every other clone to date "with it's own set of a few unique features"

Well then every MMO is a clone, cuz they all have a character that you control, and you have skills, and you kill stuff... need I go on? 

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

  User Deleted
3/01/13 2:49:45 AM#72
Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

  Djildjamesh

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3/01/13 3:01:22 AM#73
Originally posted by Margulis
Originally posted by Varthander
Originally posted by Rthuth434

Much like Rift, this game is sounding more and more like World of Warcraft with a slightly different set of instanced features tacked onto it.

 

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/wildstar-arkship-answers-community-questions/

"Facepalm"

 

The funniest thing about that article is how it talks about how exciting the news of 40 man raids are. Are you kidding me??!! There's a reason those were phased out and you don't see them anymore - because they are a GIANT pain in the ass!! Getting 20 people on the same page to show up on time is hard enough, god don't remind me of the nights of pain and suffering trying to get 40 people on the same page.......... For every 1 person that's going to be excited about that there are likely 50-100 groaning.

Actually im 100% more excited now that 40m raiding is confirmed.

sucks to be you =)

  sketocafe

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3/01/13 3:12:24 AM#74

Here's the thing. It's okay to be like wow. Blizzard has actually managed to get some things right over the years. 

The problem arises when you set out to be exactly like WoW. From what I've seen, Wildstar doesn't seem to be doing this.

  Alberel

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3/01/13 3:18:54 AM#75
Originally posted by tintilinic
Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

Please, list features that Wildstar is 'cloning' from WoW that aren't generic to the MMO genre itself and present in most titles...

  nilden

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3/01/13 3:56:36 AM#76
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by tintilinic
Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

Please, list features that Wildstar is 'cloning' from WoW that aren't generic to the MMO genre itself and present in most titles...

 

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How about big yellow exclaimation marks?

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  Djildjamesh

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3/01/13 4:10:04 AM#77
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by tintilinic
Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

Please, list features that Wildstar is 'cloning' from WoW that aren't generic to the MMO genre itself and present in most titles...

 

!

 

 

How about big yellow exclaimation marks?

actually the marks came from diablo 2

Mark Kern:

They were my fault to begin with, at least partially. You see, I worked on World of Warcraft, the most quest-hub heavy game in existence. I even helped come up with that dang exclamation mark, borrowing it from Diablo 2 and being inspired by Metal Gear Solid.

  User Deleted
3/01/13 4:21:19 AM#78
Originally posted by sketocafe

Here's the thing. It's okay to be like wow. Blizzard has actually managed to get some things right over the years. 

The problem arises when you set out to be exactly like WoW. From what I've seen, Wildstar doesn't seem to be doing this.

Cant really tell yet, but as title says...it certanly sounds so as they release more and more.

And you cant really blame people for being overly cautious, how many times have developers promised rainbows and unicorns but delievered a turd? Its actually good thing, if game proves (accent on PROVES, not PROMISES) to be good it will succeed, hope that hype trains vanish based on experience of people.

  bingbongbros

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3/01/13 4:26:16 AM#79
Originally posted by Djildjamesh
Originally posted by nilden
Originally posted by Alberel
Originally posted by tintilinic
Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

Please, list features that Wildstar is 'cloning' from WoW that aren't generic to the MMO genre itself and present in most titles...

 

!

 

 

How about big yellow exclaimation marks?

actually the marks came from diablo 2

Mark Kern:

They were my fault to begin with, at least partially. You see, I worked on World of Warcraft, the most quest-hub heavy game in existence. I even helped come up with that dang exclamation mark, borrowing it from Diablo 2 and being inspired by Metal Gear Solid.

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3/01/13 7:53:55 AM#80
Originally posted by bingbongbros
Originally posted by Djildjamesh
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Originally posted by Margulis

So you're telling me there is no difference between the comparison of games such as Wildstar and RIFT to wow, as say Star Wars Galaxies, Arche Age or The Secret World to wow?  Because they share a few common core features that every mmo will likely have?  hhmmmmm

More likely every computer game will have. Its fallacy and one to drop down to when theres no other arguments. Wildstar indeed looks like a facelifted WoW, with a new perk or a bit diferent things once in the blue moon.

Please, list features that Wildstar is 'cloning' from WoW that aren't generic to the MMO genre itself and present in most titles...

 

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How about big yellow exclaimation marks?

actually the marks came from diablo 2

Mark Kern:

They were my fault to begin with, at least partially. You see, I worked on World of Warcraft, the most quest-hub heavy game in existence. I even helped come up with that dang exclamation mark, borrowing it from Diablo 2 and being inspired by Metal Gear Solid.

Check and mate!

Since when are Diablo 2 and Metal Gear Solid MMOs?

Nobody claims WoWs original (as its also copy) but since it actually made MMOs popular (why even mention some obscure games or non MMOs) and lot of games blatantly cloned it (yes WoW, not EQ or Diable or "insert game here" because they wanted piece of the action)  Wildstars devs saying "its not like WoW" have no weight. Prove it, words are not enough, not any more, and pictures tell different story.

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