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  Garland7G

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OP  2/25/13 3:36:11 AM#1

I want to try out guild wars 2 but i'm not sure if my rig can handle it. I want at least med graphic settings with 30-40fps if possible

I recently tried Tera and it was so choppy on med settings that it put me off, I could play it on min settings but it just turned me off big time and i stopped playing. here are some spec of my comp, pls let me know if you can thx!

 Windows 8 64-bit

 Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor  (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
 Memory: 8192MB RAM

AMD Radeon HD 7450 Display Memory: 4841 MB Dedicated Memory: 1010 MB Shared Memory: 3830 MB

  Dogblaster

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2/25/13 3:42:39 AM#2

You should be okey unless you expect those 30-40 fps in wvw zerg vs zerg with 100 players fighting. In dungeons, spvp, world you will have decent fps. Remeber to download latest drivers, etc :)

 

ALSO .. it depends on how cleared your PC is right. No one can say for sure unless you try.

  Garland7G

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OP  2/25/13 3:46:11 AM#3
thx, just want to make sure before i spend the money on something i couldn't enjoy.
  Varthander

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2/25/13 3:52:31 AM#4
Originally posted by Garland7G

I want to try out guild wars 2 but i'm not sure if my rig can handle it. I want at least med graphic settings with 30-40fps if possible

I recently tried Tera and it was so choppy on med settings that it put me off, I could play it on min settings but it just turned me off big time and i stopped playing. here are some spec of my comp, pls let me know if you can thx!

 Windows 8 64-bit

 Processor: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor  (6 CPUs), ~3.3GHz
 Memory: 8192MB RAM

AMD Radeon HD 7450 Display Memory: 4841 MB Dedicated Memory: 1010 MB Shared Memory: 3830 MB

According to your specs you should be able to run it very good, forget your experience on TERA because that game its poorly optimized  unless you have a Specific Gcard. Hope that helps

  User Deleted
2/25/13 4:07:38 AM#5

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

  Dakeru

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2/25/13 4:26:33 AM#6
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

2/25/13 4:34:32 AM#7

The reason why Tera takes up a lot more hardware power is due to the fact it uses a lot more graphics intensive content on it. If comparing the graphics and what is actually going on, Tera is a lot heavier on the graphics then Guildwars 2 which uses a much lower quality graphics, though using clever artistic talent in order to disguise it and give it a nice appeal. As such, Guildwars 2 will be likely to run easier on your system.

The biggest issue will be WvW which no matter  which will primarily on your Graphics Ram in order for it to support the combat. Still it should be fine enough to run.

In short, Tera is a lot more graphically demanding game then Guild Wars 2 and really shouldn't be compared at all in that department for whether it will run or not. Comments bashing Tera being poorly optimized are well, lets just say someone bashing a game they view as a threat if it wasn't obvious by their signature what they hold bias towards. :)

  Garland7G

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OP  2/25/13 4:37:41 AM#8
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

this gives me hope then, the funny thing is, is that this comp i bought like 3 months ago! was labled a "gaming" rig by the guys at Frys lol. granted it only cost like 650 and i knew i would have to replace the graphics card sooner or later but i just didn't want to do it for guildwars 2 as money is tight.

  User Deleted
2/25/13 4:45:09 AM#9
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

Do you even know difference between 7450 and 6870?

Originally posted by Garland7G

this gives me hope then, the funny thing is, is that this comp i bought like 3 months ago! was labled a "gaming" rig by the guys at Frys lol. granted it only cost like 650 and i knew i would have to replace the graphics card sooner or later but i just didn't want to do it for guildwars 2 as money is tight.

Maybe for facebook games ;P

If you want decent graphic card youre looking at 200$ price range. But as i said, invest in 5770/6770 used for cheap until you can buy somehting decent.

  Purutzil

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The Critical Hit Pretzel!

2/25/13 4:47:08 AM#10
Originally posted by Garland7G
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

this gives me hope then, the funny thing is, is that this comp i bought like 3 months ago! was labled a "gaming" rig by the guys at Frys lol. granted it only cost like 650 and i knew i would have to replace the graphics card sooner or later but i just didn't want to do it for guildwars 2 as money is tight.

Unfortunately, the computer market is filled with companies milking the clueless consumer for money. Its not your fault of course, unfortunately you need a little know how in order to really make it out there. Its good to shop around a bit, my computer was only $800 at time of purchase and can run Tera on High settings due to the place I purchased it being a lot better on their deals and not overmarking it double price like some places tend to. If it was built by hand I could of even got that build for probably $100+ cheaper. 

  Dakeru

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2/25/13 4:48:40 AM#11
Originally posted by Garland7G

this gives me hope then, the funny thing is, is that this comp i bought like 3 months ago! was labled a "gaming" rig by the guys at Frys lol. granted it only cost like 650 and i knew i would have to replace the graphics card sooner or later but i just didn't want to do it for guildwars 2 as money is tight.

I know what you mean. I was playing FFXIV back then and it fried my nvidia card. While waiting for replacement, I bought the HD 6870 for 210€ .. most expensive card I ever bought in my life.

I wouldn't spend that much again but I know this card will last somewhat longer unless it shares the same fate as the (I admit it) outdated nvidia I had before.

  User Deleted
2/25/13 4:57:55 AM#12

just to give you context of 7450 performance ;P

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7450

  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1331

2/25/13 4:58:46 AM#13
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6870

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7450

The difference is obvious. Not that benchmark results tell the whole story, but the 6870 is a gaming video card, while the 7450 is not. Sure, the 7xxx series is newer, but that doesn't mean more powerful.

  User Deleted
2/25/13 5:03:51 AM#14
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6870

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7450

The difference is obvious. Not that benchmark results tell the whole story, but the 6870 is a gaming video card, while the 7450 is not. Sure, the 7xxx series is newer, but that doesn't mean more powerful.

Not to mention 7450 is rebranded 6450 and is OEM only ;)

  Garland7G

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OP  2/25/13 5:09:28 AM#15
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by Dakeru
Originally posted by mikahr

Your graphic card is bottom of the chain, why do you expect even medium graphic with it? Its designed to run windows and mutimedia,  not games, you should be happy to play with min settings. Invest 80-90$ to have somewhat decent graphic card (even less if you buy used).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=hd7750&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

I'm using the HD 6870 and have all settings on max without problem.

Hell even my non-gamer laptop can play the game lagfree. (With PlayStation 1 grafics of course)

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+6870

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7450

The difference is obvious. Not that benchmark results tell the whole story, but the 6870 is a gaming video card, while the 7450 is not. Sure, the 7xxx series is newer, but that doesn't mean more powerful.

fucking ouch....

  User Deleted
2/25/13 5:19:47 AM#16
Originally posted by Garland7G

fucking ouch....

Painful realization of harsh truth ;P

just look at my advice few posts up and give that 7450 to someone whose pinnacle of computer using is watching movies on it ;P

here:

If you want decent graphic card youre looking at 200$ price range. But as i said, invest in 5770/6770 used for cheap until you can buy somehting decent.

  Garland7G

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Posts: 101

 
OP  2/25/13 5:28:46 AM#17
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Garland7G

fucking ouch....

Painful realization of harsh truth ;P

just look at my advice few posts up and give that 7450 to someone whose pinnacle of computer using is watching movies on it ;P

here:

If you want decent graphic card youre looking at 200$ price range. But as i said, invest in 5770/6770 used for cheap until you can buy somehting decent.

good advice :)

  Zeus.CM

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2/25/13 7:21:58 AM#18
That graphic card is terrible. I doubt you will run GW2 with decent settings. All low if you are lucky. Processor is okay, but Gfx must be changed.
  Dakeru

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2/25/13 7:22:25 AM#19
Originally posted by boxsnd

It's sad that a lot of people are lying in this thread. GW2 is A LOT more demanding than TERA. I can play tera at medium settings and my fps is pinned at 60 with very little fluctuation.

 

GW2 on the other hand even at lowest settings varies wildly. In pve with few people around it is above 60, with many people it drops to 30-40. In WvW it starts at 30-35 fps (with no people around) and drops down to 10-15 in keep fights, especially when it's snowing. (why do you think they have culling?)

 

The weird thing is TERA looks much better than GW2. Its engine is optimized very badly.

 

I'd suggest to steer clear of GW2 since it is overrated as hell anyway.

It's refreshing to see a post completely free of bias again.

  Dakeru

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2/25/13 8:02:06 AM#20

I went online on my laptop to take a screenshot near the TP so you can compare the grafics yourself. This is what I call the PS1 grafics.

The onboard gfx card on my laptop is a Radeon HD 7520G.

 

PS: I did not try wvw on this and I don't expect good results there.

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