Why?

Well just the fact that they had a disaster with the original and pulled it down to rework the entire game says a lot about square mentality. There history with this title has been inpressive except for the FFXIV original.

So this will make or break them in mmo world and have a lot to lose if they fail again.

My tip is they wont and will be the game of the year especially being elder scrolls went the doac way and neverwinter the f2p way. Many like me will be more then willing to pay a monthly sub to explore and entire world as well as all the other goodies square enix is capable of..

Wish hem the best of luck and sucess in this ballsy revamp and taking responsibility of making a fail mmo right..

No.

Reason: Subscription Model

Originally posted by kartana

No.

Reason: Subscription Model

We get it, you don't want to pay a subscription.

Everyone has their opinions.

I don't want a game that has to mass appeal to millions of "free" players in the hopes that enough of them will buy a "shiny hat of patheticness" in order to produce content I as a player am likely to be knickle and dimed for.

Subscription models do just fine at producing quality content.  Look at HBO.  In fact they do well because they are subscription based.  This frees them from having to cast a broad, cheap net, to lure in suckers.  People subscribe (or don't) because they like the game and the direction it is headed in.  There is not one single F2P or B2P game that is decent and going in a "good direction" (my opinion).

Originally posted by kartana

No.

Reason: Subscription Model

You see bad, I see a plus....

YES.

Reason: Subscription model / Awesome graphics / Gameplay / Longetivity / Not typical casual-friendly western MMORPG / Final Fantasy / Naoki Yoshida as a producer and director / More and More and More :)

Few days ago I spent around 14+ hours reading and watching all developers videos, blogs,  etc.. just everything and I was thrilled !

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is something I am looking forward to.. A LOT. I wasnt this excited for years and cant find to find new mmorpg home, for years !

I am sure there are going to be haters, complains, trolls .. but there are EVERYWHERE so it means absolutely nothing

Originally posted by kartana

No.

Reason: Subscription Model

 No.

Reason : has the worst combat system of any MMO to date.

Thought, FF14 was hated by those FF11 players? But serioursly... the combat is "meh" to say the least.

Originally posted by bugmeno

Originally posted by kartana

No.

Reason: Subscription Model

 No.

 

Reason : has the worst combat system of any MMO to date.

 

Thought, FF14 was hated by those FF11 players? But serioursly... the combat is "meh" to say the least.

But then you are a GW2 and Tera player focused on PvP (based on your posts).  You dislike tab targetting and are looking for an "action combat" system.  Also you coined the expression GPS (ganks/griefs per second) in a manner that suggests you like ganking/griefing people.

Perhaps the fact that this game is not for you and others with a similar mindset is a positive for some people.

But then you are a GW2 and Tera player focused on PvP (based on your posts).  You dislike tab targetting and are looking for an "action combat" system.  Also you coined the expression GPS (ganks/griefs per second) in a manner that suggests you like ganking/griefing people.

Perhaps the fact that this game is not for you and others with a similar mindset is a positive for some people.

Agreed !!

I just hope Final Fantasy XIV: ARR wont try to cater to every possible kind of players ending up listening to vocal playerbase of casuals, fans of dumped down, simple casual friendly mmorpgs. I HOPE NA/EU feedback etc. wont be as important for them like Asian one. Because major NA/EU players loves these dumped down copies of wow.

Originally posted by Waldoe
P2P is not dying I hate to break it to you cheap people. I am glad I will not be seeing you in game.  $15 a month is peanuts even if you have a minimum wage job. Get over it.

i agree $15 is not much at all.. although for me i'm glad the shift is going towards B2P/F2P for a lot of games for the simple fact I can play numerous games at once which I like to do.. i can easily afford maybe 1 or 2 sub games but 4 or so would be pushing it.. 

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Waldoe
P2P is not dying I hate to break it to you cheap people. I am glad I will not be seeing you in game.  $15 a month is peanuts even if you have a minimum wage job. Get over it.

i agree $15 is not much at all.. although for me i'm glad the shift is going towards B2P/F2P for a lot of games for the simple fact I can play numerous games at once which I like to do.. i can easily afford maybe 1 or 2 sub games but 4 or so would be pushing it.. 

I dont play several MMORPGs at once EVER. Not because there are B2P or P2P or whatever. But because staying competetive you have to dedicate all the time you have for the games just to this one :) Yea I dont play MMORPGs for just ''fun'' and I dont settle with avarage. And I dont even enjoy playing more games at once, ever.. For instance, while I was playing Guild Wars 2, I played like single Dota 2 match once a month even tho I had 1000+ hours played in Guild Wars 2. Sadly after that long time I realized GW 2 is not for me, its just too simple, leveling is tooooo fast, maxing out character and obtaining best gear is almost instant and I am that kind of players that rely on maxing out character as much as he can but it has to be HARD and take long time and big dedication.

I am sure if Final Fantasy XIV: ARR will be what I hope I wont touch another game for years :)

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Waldoe
P2P is not dying I hate to break it to you cheap people. I am glad I will not be seeing you in game.  $15 a month is peanuts even if you have a minimum wage job. Get over it.

i agree $15 is not much at all.. although for me i'm glad the shift is going towards B2P/F2P for a lot of games for the simple fact I can play numerous games at once which I like to do.. i can easily afford maybe 1 or 2 sub games but 4 or so would be pushing it.. 

No time for more than 1 or 2 with work and family now a days. No more gaming 24/7 like I did in college, but still as into gaming as ever.

Originally posted by Waldoe

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Waldoe
P2P is not dying I hate to break it to you cheap people. I am glad I will not be seeing you in game.  $15 a month is peanuts even if you have a minimum wage job. Get over it.

i agree $15 is not much at all.. although for me i'm glad the shift is going towards B2P/F2P for a lot of games for the simple fact I can play numerous games at once which I like to do.. i can easily afford maybe 1 or 2 sub games but 4 or so would be pushing it.. 

No time for more than 1 or 2 with work and family now a days. No more gaming 24/7 like I did in college, but still as into gaming as ever.

i have family.. 2 kids and all that.. but still i never only play a single game.. so many games offer so many differn't things.. hardly is there ever a game that hits EVERY note that I look for in a game.. thats why I always play several but also its why I never blow through content and even a "casual" mmo can last me a very long time

Originally posted by kartana

No.

Reason: Subscription Model

This is the exact reason I will be giving it a shot. subscription games tend to have a higher quality playerbase than the P2W games.

Originally posted by DarknessReign
I LOVE the B2P player there so smart that they can in one month spend anywhere from 20$ up to 200$ just for gear that in 2 weeks you wont use , or items , or buy gold . Where a Smarter player LOVES Sub fee . Its always the same fee and you can have ANYTHING in game at anytime you just have to go get it. Its the difference really in the entitled person who thinks ill just but it and its mine . And the Hard working person who says i cant wait to go get this gear , hope the fight is epic and that person earns there gear. A B2P player will spend more in a year then a Sub Player.  That or there to cheep to buy anything and just want to play the game for free because there cheap . Now back to the OP statment i think FFXIV:ARR will have a run for its money Vs Elder Scrolls Online just sayin

odd as most sub games I have played still offered exclusive items you were required to spend money on if you wanted them.. usually always cosmetic but still... don't even want to think on how much a spent on wow and just server transfers

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by DarknessReign
I LOVE the B2P player there so smart that they can in one month spend anywhere from 20$ up to 200$ just for gear that in 2 weeks you wont use , or items , or buy gold . Where a Smarter player LOVES Sub fee . Its always the same fee and you can have ANYTHING in game at anytime you just have to go get it. Its the difference really in the entitled person who thinks ill just buy it and its mine . And the Hard working person who says i cant wait to go get this gear , hope the fight is epic and that person earns there gear. A B2P player will spend more in a year then a Sub Player.  That or there to cheep to buy anything and just want to play the game for free because there cheap . Now back to the OP statment i think FFXIV:ARR will have a run for its money Vs Elder Scrolls Online just sayin

odd as most sub games I have played still offered exclusive items you were required to spend money on if you wanted them.. usually always cosmetic but still... don't even want to think on how much a spent on wow and just server transfers

The difference is your talking WoW this is FF and Square Enix not Blizzard. I do not remember FFXI having to buy anything extra at all . Other then Exp. Packs .

Originally posted by DarknessReign

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by DarknessReign
I LOVE the B2P player there so smart that they can in one month spend anywhere from 20$ up to 200$ just for gear that in 2 weeks you wont use , or items , or buy gold . Where a Smarter player LOVES Sub fee . Its always the same fee and you can have ANYTHING in game at anytime you just have to go get it. Its the difference really in the entitled person who thinks ill just buy it and its mine . And the Hard working person who says i cant wait to go get this gear , hope the fight is epic and that person earns there gear. A B2P player will spend more in a year then a Sub Player.  That or there to cheep to buy anything and just want to play the game for free because there cheap . Now back to the OP statment i think FFXIV:ARR will have a run for its money Vs Elder Scrolls Online just sayin

odd as most sub games I have played still offered exclusive items you were required to spend money on if you wanted them.. usually always cosmetic but still... don't even want to think on how much a spent on wow and just server transfers

The difference is your talking WoW this is FF and Square Enix not Blizzard. I do not remember FFXI having to buy anything extra at all . Other then Exp. Packs .

doesn't FFXI have battle area add-ons and add-on scenarios that require money to play on TOP of the expansions and the sub fee?