Originally posted by Kaerigan

Source: Sony's PS4 conference.

Will have split screen co-op. Thoughts?

It's a another spit in the face of the real diablo fans. They should be working on pvp instead of this becasue it's not even going to be cross platfom with pc so what's the point.

Originally posted by zephermarkus

Originally posted by Kaerigan

Source: Sony's PS4 conference.

Will have split screen co-op. Thoughts?

It's a another spit in the face of the real diablo fans. They should be working on pvp instead of this becasue it's not even going to be cross platfom with pc so what's the point.

Taking bets on it being included in the paid expansion. 

Lol. Never thought Blizzard would become crap to me. Oh well.

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by zephermarkus

Originally posted by Kaerigan

Source: Sony's PS4 conference.

Will have split screen co-op. Thoughts?

It's a another spit in the face of the real diablo fans. They should be working on pvp instead of this becasue it's not even going to be cross platfom with pc so what's the point.

Taking bets on it being included in the paid expansion. 

 

Lol. Never thought Blizzard would become crap to me. Oh well.

PvP won't require the purchase of the expansion.

The console game is being programmed by an entirely different group.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by Crunchy222

He doesnt.  Its the new trend over at the d3 forums, the new thing people can grasp on to and rage about.  Its really quite silly.

Now if blizzard was a 10man show...yeah i would raise a lot of questions about at what expense to bring this to ps4.  I think blizzard has spare people to develop D3 and get the ps4 version ready.

 

Dunno, accepting that they have no people to add a space between zeroes (and fix other issues which go back as launch) and then saying they have plenty people to do the ps version sound quite silly to me, too :)

Flame on!

:)

 They have plenty of people to do the PS3/4 port. They've been hiring console programmers for months. They could fix  the things you're talking about too. If they were in any way priorities, or even desirable. Instead they've been working on real issues.

Thus some individuals should not be unhappy that they hire ps programmers instead of dunnowhat programmers that would be able to fix the issues?

Dunno, i dont really care one way or the other, all there is left is the annoyance when i read a variation of "blizz knows best". 

Flame on!

:)

 Why would they hire dunnowhat programmers? They already have boatloads of every kind of programmer they could ever want.

Because it takes them ages to do anything (in case it does feel right for a change) ?

We are only now reaching a "release" version of the game, with pvp and other stuff.

Flame on!

:)

 They're doing things all the time. 1.07 added a ton of changes. They've always done that. Diablo 1 had ten major revisions. Diablo 2 had 14 or more major revisions.  BTW the PS3/4 version is a completely different game. Same art and story but different mechanics, UI, etc.

Doing something does not count, the result does.

Flame on!

:)

Originally posted by nariusseldon

With their level of polish ..

Debatable, blizz polish once meant that they concern themselves with annoyances, now we have a always blinking inventory button, a excessively shaking screen and quest dialogue that closes the shop interface.

(Not even starting with the ah, for how long did we have just 3 search options?)

Flame on!

:)

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by Crunchy222

He doesnt.  Its the new trend over at the d3 forums, the new thing people can grasp on to and rage about.  Its really quite silly.

Now if blizzard was a 10man show...yeah i would raise a lot of questions about at what expense to bring this to ps4.  I think blizzard has spare people to develop D3 and get the ps4 version ready.

 

Dunno, accepting that they have no people to add a space between zeroes (and fix other issues which go back as launch) and then saying they have plenty people to do the ps version sound quite silly to me, too :)

Flame on!

:)

 They have plenty of people to do the PS3/4 port. They've been hiring console programmers for months. They could fix  the things you're talking about too. If they were in any way priorities, or even desirable. Instead they've been working on real issues.

Thus some individuals should not be unhappy that they hire ps programmers instead of dunnowhat programmers that would be able to fix the issues?

Dunno, i dont really care one way or the other, all there is left is the annoyance when i read a variation of "blizz knows best". 

Flame on!

:)

 Why would they hire dunnowhat programmers? They already have boatloads of every kind of programmer they could ever want.

Because it takes them ages to do anything (in case it does feel right for a change) ?

We are only now reaching a "release" version of the game, with pvp and other stuff.

Flame on!

:)

 They're doing things all the time. 1.07 added a ton of changes. They've always done that. Diablo 1 had ten major revisions. Diablo 2 had 14 or more major revisions.  BTW the PS3/4 version is a completely different game. Same art and story but different mechanics, UI, etc.

Doing something does not count, the result does.

Flame on!

:)

 By which you mean doing anything that doesn't please you doesn't count. The results  speak for themselves. There are millions of happy pllayers.

Originally posted by Banaghran

 

Doing something does not count, the result does.

Glad you agree with that.

12M box sales. Still top 10 in xfire after 10 months. The results look fantastic.

Would you like to bet that the expansion will also have fantastic results?

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Banaghran

 

Doing something does not count, the result does.

Glad you agree with that.

12M box sales. Still top 10 in xfire after 10 months. The results look fantastic.

Would you like to bet that the expansion will also have fantastic results?

xFire. Do you use AOL dial up too? So 7,000 hours of playtime a day for a 12 million copy selling game is good? Hot damn, we just rewrote the definition of success :D

Comments like "Blizzard are super greedy" really annoy me. Blizzard is one of the VERY FEW, and I mean EXTREMELY SUPER DUPER ULTRA FEW companies who don't release ANY kind of DLCs for their games. Blizzard releases a game and then they patch it, and patch it, and patch it. Look at how many updates Diablo and Starcraft have received since they were released. Blizzard really cares for their games and they don't give up on them for a looooong time. And you get all these content updates for free without them charging a single cent. Hell, even Warcraft 3 still receives updates from time to time.

When Blizzard release a new expansion it is always packed with content and it is not just a money grab. Can anyone honestly tell me that Blizzard don't spend a lot of time developing their games and that they  release games which are not crazy value for money?

There are so many greedy companies like Activision, EA, and all those other companies (and by that I mean 99.99% of all PC and console developers) who release at least 2-3 DLCs for their games. Now that is a money grab. Create 2 maps and 2 skins and sell them for 10 pounds. Blizzard has never charged people for any content they release outside of expansions. And Blizzard's expansions usually have tons of content compared to most other expansions.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 By which you mean doing anything that doesn't please you doesn't count. The results  speak for themselves. There are millions of happy pllayers.

I mean like adding regen/enrage timers and then removing them or band-aiding game systems instead of fixing them (itemization), and you are ofcourse free to disagree.

Flame on!

:)

Originally posted by darkbalth
This announcement made me not want to play anymore.  They are spending time trying to reach more ppl on the ps4 instead of giving us the pvp they promised on the pc version.  this shows they are after money and care about nothing else.

and you think those are the same devs?

little you know.

Originally posted by fivoroth

Comments like "Blizzard are super greedy" really annoy me. Blizzard is one of the VERY FEW, and I mean EXTREMELY SUPER DUPER ULTRA FEW companies who don't release ANY kind of DLCs for their games. Blizzard releases a game and then they patch it, and patch it, and patch it. Look at how many updates Diablo and Starcraft have received since they were released. Blizzard really cares for their games and they don't give up on them for a looooong time. And you get all these content updates for free without them charging a single cent. Hell, even Warcraft 3 still receives updates from time to time.

When Blizzard release a new expansion it is always packed with content and it is not just a money grab. Can anyone honestly tell me that Blizzard don't spend a lot of time developing their games and that they  release games which are not crazy value for money?

There are so many greedy companies like Activision, EA, and all those other companies (and by that I mean 99.99% of all PC and console developers) who release at least 2-3 DLCs for their games. Now that is a money grab. Create 2 maps and 2 skins and sell them for 10 pounds. Blizzard has never charged people for any content they release outside of expansions. And Blizzard's expansions usually have tons of content compared to most other expansions.

 

Question is for how long can we lower the bar?

We had d2 polish, now we have d3 "polish", we had 3 campaingns in starcraft 1, s2 we have to buy a few times over...

But atleast there is no DLC's, eh? :)

Flame on!

:)

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by fivoroth

Comments like "Blizzard are super greedy" really annoy me. Blizzard is one of the VERY FEW, and I mean EXTREMELY SUPER DUPER ULTRA FEW companies who don't release ANY kind of DLCs for their games. Blizzard releases a game and then they patch it, and patch it, and patch it. Look at how many updates Diablo and Starcraft have received since they were released. Blizzard really cares for their games and they don't give up on them for a looooong time. And you get all these content updates for free without them charging a single cent. Hell, even Warcraft 3 still receives updates from time to time.

When Blizzard release a new expansion it is always packed with content and it is not just a money grab. Can anyone honestly tell me that Blizzard don't spend a lot of time developing their games and that they  release games which are not crazy value for money?

There are so many greedy companies like Activision, EA, and all those other companies (and by that I mean 99.99% of all PC and console developers) who release at least 2-3 DLCs for their games. Now that is a money grab. Create 2 maps and 2 skins and sell them for 10 pounds. Blizzard has never charged people for any content they release outside of expansions. And Blizzard's expansions usually have tons of content compared to most other expansions.

 

Question is for how long can we lower the bar?

We had d2 polish, now we have d3 "polish", we had 3 campaingns in starcraft 1, s2 we have to buy a few times over...

But atleast there is no DLC's, eh? :)

Flame on!

:)

Actually D3 is more "polished" than D2 was. SC1 (without the BW expansion) had 30 missions, or 10 missions per race (campaign). SC2 WoL had 30 missions, it was just one race. In terms of content the SC2 campaign is just as big as SC1's. As they were aiming for 2 expansions, they decided to focus on 1 race a time. So in reality SC2 (without any expansions) had just as much if not more content in SC1. SC2 has a lot more units compared to vanilla SC1. SC2 is comparable to SC1 and BW combined. SC2 will be a massive game compared to SC1 once all two expansions are released. 

How long can we lower the bar? Blizzard's games in terms of quality, polish and amount of content are in a category of their own. Not even comparable to what most other companies release.

Originally posted by Aeonblades

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Banaghran

 

Doing something does not count, the result does.

Glad you agree with that.

12M box sales. Still top 10 in xfire after 10 months. The results look fantastic.

Would you like to bet that the expansion will also have fantastic results?

xFire. Do you use AOL dial up too? So 7,000 hours of playtime a day for a 12 million copy selling game is good? Hot damn, we just rewrote the definition of success :D

Very good, given that it is only a sample. You will diss LOL's number too?

You don't agree with xfire ranking? Games you like must be very low on it.

And what about 12M copies sold. I would say that just up the bar and rewrite the definition of success. As you said.

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Aeonblades

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Banaghran

 

Doing something does not count, the result does.

Glad you agree with that.

12M box sales. Still top 10 in xfire after 10 months. The results look fantastic.

Would you like to bet that the expansion will also have fantastic results?

xFire. Do you use AOL dial up too? So 7,000 hours of playtime a day for a 12 million copy selling game is good? Hot damn, we just rewrote the definition of success :D

Very good, given that it is only a sample. You will diss LOL's number too?

You don't agree with xfire ranking? Games you like must be very low on it.

And what about 12M copies sold. I would say that just up the bar and rewrite the definition of success. As you said.

No point arguing with guys like this.  They have abandond logic and thinking long ago and its pure emotion and knee jerk reactions.

They are so convinced that this is the reason they didnt make D3 in their exact image....convinced D3 was a consol port from the very start, which makes no sense at all.

Considering most of the D3 systems they hate most wont even be in the ps4 version for obvious reasons (mainly the RMAH and online only play)

Even when a developer wrote a super detailed post with cited sources, all of which makes sense to anyone with a brain prior to the post...still want to believe that for some reason they made D3 as a ps4 game first then made the PC game in advance somehow launching the PC version then years later will be done with the ps4 version...who knows perhaps they have inside knowledge that blizzard has time travel technology which is the only way any of that makes sense.

You cant argue with someone who runs purely on emotions.  Let them retire back to their clunky combat game with worse itemization and no offline play lol

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 By which you mean doing anything that doesn't please you doesn't count. The results  speak for themselves. There are millions of happy pllayers.

I mean like adding regen/enrage timers and then removing them or band-aiding game systems instead of fixing them (itemization), and you are ofcourse free to disagree.

Flame on!

:)

 So improving the game is always a bad thing. They should just say "aw screw it" and deny they ever make mistakes like most companies?  You can't have it both ways. Itemization is vastly improved.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 By which you mean doing anything that doesn't please you doesn't count. The results  speak for themselves. There are millions of happy pllayers.

I mean like adding regen/enrage timers and then removing them or band-aiding game systems instead of fixing them (itemization), and you are ofcourse free to disagree.

Flame on!

:)

 So improving the game is always a bad thing. They should just say "aw screw it" and deny they ever make mistakes like most companies?  You can't have it both ways. Itemization is vastly improved.

In fact, i find Blizz willing to take risks and take things previously NOT in ARPG to ARPG (like enrage timers). That is why other companies copy them instead of the other way around.

And they also don't flinch to go back on a risky decision that does not pan out.

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Banaghran

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 By which you mean doing anything that doesn't please you doesn't count. The results  speak for themselves. There are millions of happy pllayers.

I mean like adding regen/enrage timers and then removing them or band-aiding game systems instead of fixing them (itemization), and you are ofcourse free to disagree.

Flame on!

:)

 So improving the game is always a bad thing. They should just say "aw screw it" and deny they ever make mistakes like most companies?  You can't have it both ways. Itemization is vastly improved.

In fact, i find Blizz willing to take risks and take things previously NOT in ARPG to ARPG (like enrage timers). That is why other companies copy them instead of the other way around.

And they also don't flinch to go back on a risky decision that does not pan out.

Depends on PoV, where you see a bold company taking risks i see wow programmers tackling and failing at an other genre.

Flame on!

:)

Originally posted by zymurgeist

 Itemization is vastly improved.

No, it isnt.

Flame on!

:)