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  botrytis

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2/18/13 1:20:36 PM#21
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Czanrei
I choose none of the above. Because the game needs more RP-support, housing, and mounts way before it needs another hollow playable race. 

Doesn't need housing - waste of resouces - MOUNTS ARE NOT PART OF THE LORE - jeez - read the lore and that is why we have TP - don't need mounts as another waste of resources.

 

They are a small company and as such - doing the best they can. Yes, they messed but a bit, who hasn't (Trion did some beauts just after the release of Rift). They are also still supporting GW1.

 

I think it should be Tengu. If you did the add in to GW1, if you had the Bonus Mission Pack, you could play as Master Togo and help the Tengu in Cantha. I think Cantha would also be a nice add on then.

Wrong!!!!!!!!

 

Mounts and housing are an important feature for any game to get right and to exclude them is to take away from your playerbase.  We already have enough silly races in GW2 there needs to be other forms of content before we talk of new races.

To you housing and mounts are important. In the lore of GW2, there were no mounts - period. Putting them is is the equivalent of adding the 3 faction PvP in a a 2 faction only game - Rift. It is a lore/game breaker.

 As far as housing is concerned, as I said, in my opinion, it is a waste of bandwidth and a silly time sink. Rift has housing and mounts already. Putting them in GW2, will just make it the same as other MMO out there and I prefer it to be unique.

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  MMOExposed

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2/18/13 1:23:02 PM#22

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honesty the Tengu dont look that cool in the game. they seem very puny for my taste. and what class would I play it on? I already have a character for each class. if a new Soldier gets added, its very unlikely it will be something other than Norn or Human.

  jtcgs

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2/18/13 1:24:56 PM#23
Originally posted by botrytis

To you housing and mounts are important. In the lore of GW2, there were no mounts - period. As far as housing is concerned, as I said, in my opinion, it is a waste of bandwidth and a silly time sink. Rift has housing and mounts already. Putting them in GW2, will just make it the same as other MMO out there and I prefer it to be unique.

 

 not having housing makes it unique?!? Most MMOs dont have housing so by what you said, it makes it like the majority of games.

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  Aerowyn

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2/18/13 1:29:26 PM#24
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by botrytis

To you housing and mounts are important. In the lore of GW2, there were no mounts - period. As far as housing is concerned, as I said, in my opinion, it is a waste of bandwidth and a silly time sink. Rift has housing and mounts already. Putting them in GW2, will just make it the same as other MMO out there and I prefer it to be unique.

 

 not having housing makes it unique?!? Most MMOs dont have housing so by what you said, it makes it like the majority of games.

i'd much prefer large fully customizable guild halls than instanced personal player housing...

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  botrytis

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2/18/13 1:34:10 PM#25
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by botrytis

To you housing and mounts are important. In the lore of GW2, there were no mounts - period. As far as housing is concerned, as I said, in my opinion, it is a waste of bandwidth and a silly time sink. Rift has housing and mounts already. Putting them in GW2, will just make it the same as other MMO out there and I prefer it to be unique.

 

 not having housing makes it unique?!? Most MMOs dont have housing so by what you said, it makes it like the majority of games.

i'd much prefer large fully customizable guild halls than instanced personal player housing...

As would I and that is what I was trying to get to.

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  dadante666

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2/18/13 1:45:07 PM#26
i prefer the new race whit wing (forgot name) you can see it from personal story and sill point challenge. they are mysterius and very unique

  Emeraq

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2/18/13 1:46:54 PM#27
Originally posted by achesoma
I want the Skritt.  Racial ability:  buffs granted for being around other Skritt.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.. They have a lot of options to choose from current NPC's, Quaggan, Hylek, Centaurs... I'd even suggest Grawl as an option.

  br00klyn

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2/18/13 1:48:03 PM#28
I'd very much like to see a Kodan and Tengu race, they are both awesome!
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2/18/13 1:54:06 PM#29
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Czanrei
I choose none of the above. Because the game needs more RP-support, housing, and mounts way before it needs another hollow playable race. 

Doesn't need housing - waste of resouces - MOUNTS ARE NOT PART OF THE LORE - jeez - read the lore and that is why we have TP - don't need mounts as another waste of resources.

 

They are a small company and as such - doing the best they can. Yes, they messed but a bit, who hasn't (Trion did some beauts just after the release of Rift). They are also still supporting GW1.

 

I think it should be Tengu. If you did the add in to GW1, if you had the Bonus Mission Pack, you could play as Master Togo and help the Tengu in Cantha. I think Cantha would also be a nice add on then.

Trust me they aren't so small and yes they need much much more RPer support if they want to survive considering they've already scared away many of their customers with their nov 15th release of the WoW gameplay style focus and their stubborn adherence to all things DR.

Clothing is a big missing thing here as well. There's like hardly anything to show for costumes even town clothes are non-existant for the most part. You get like 1 free townclothes and the rest of the tiny amount of costumes that are in the BLTC store are hardly enough to fill a single wide mobile home style closet.

Not to mention the complete waste of space their home channel turned out to be or the lack of mobile or web communication/game lottery systems we were promised that were dumped in the trash after launch. I'm surprised they actually did come out with a mac version honestly with that kind of poor management.

  L0C0Man

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2/18/13 2:20:44 PM#30

There's plenty of oportunities for new races in GW2.

The quaggan and hylek I don't see as possible playable races, mainly because of how different they are and the amount of work that would take to make character customization to be relevant and armor models for them. Not to say it can't be done, but I think that Anet will probably tackle easier races first. Skritt might work, they could make some lore about some skritt being magically altered to retain their intelligence even when they're alone.

Tengu is of course a logical choice, they were very relevant in GW1, they have a whole section of LA for themselves, so getting them a new area would be just a matter of opening that area and reveal an asura gate to their city in there, or just make that area their home city. Plus they have lots of choice for customization and they're already quite humanoid, so armor wouldn't be so much work.

Koden are great ones too, they have a nice lore and good oportunities for home cities with their floating iceberg cities as it is. Of course, I'd like them to have more unique animations if they're to become player characters, since as it is they're mostly reskinned norn as they are now, but still look really cool. If I do get to play one, I want the choice to have black markings around the eyes!! (just kidding!!! just kidding)

The largos (the winged ones you meet in the story) would be interesting for an expansion set mostly underwater. Designing them would be interesting, though, considering that we've never seen one without its mask.

The stone dwarves would be an interesting addition too. For those that don't know GW1 lore, in the Eye of the North expansion the dwarves made the rite of the great dwarf, basically turning themselves into living rock so they were strong enough to fight Primordius's destroyers. Since then they're supposed to have been living underground, probably fighting primordius minions on their own turf. Would be interesting to play as one of them in a primordious related expansion.

Centaurs would be an interesting addition, as well, but they'd also need a huge undertaking since almost all lower armor would have to be redesigned for them. There are no friendly centaurs in GW2 that I know of right now, but we did have a centaur hero in GW1 in Nightfall.

Other races that would be interesting: Ogres, Grawl and Dredge

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  BadSpock

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2/18/13 2:27:20 PM#31

Kodan.

Any other answer is wrong.

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  Dracondis

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2/18/13 2:37:44 PM#32
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Czanrei
I choose none of the above. Because the game needs more RP-support, housing, and mounts way before it needs another hollow playable race. 

Doesn't need housing - waste of resouces - MOUNTS ARE NOT PART OF THE LORE - jeez - read the lore and that is why we have TP - don't need mounts as another waste of resources.

 

They are a small company and as such - doing the best they can. Yes, they messed but a bit, who hasn't (Trion did some beauts just after the release of Rift). They are also still supporting GW1.

 I think it should be Tengu. If you did the add in to GW1, if you had the Bonus Mission Pack, you could play as Master Togo and help the Tengu in Cantha. I think Cantha would also be a nice add on then.

Housing is never a waste of resources.  I'm guessing you never had a HoM in GWEN.  Guess what, if you did:  Yep, that was a form of player housing.  You think its a waste of resources still?

Anyway, coming from games where they had player housing done right, it was a thriving industry in-game that promoted a healthy marketplace where people could buy and sell furnishings to spruce up the joint.  Robust economies are based not on functional items and gear, but on the little luxuries we don't need.  This is the way of the world.  Take video games.  If you think about it, video games are a luxury, and you don't need them.  Applying the logic used to deny player housing, no video game would EVER be made.  It's simply a waste of resources.  There are better things to put in the world than another video game.

  AutemOx

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2/18/13 2:49:04 PM#33

Quaggan's and skritt <3 <3  They don't have to be playable I just want to see more of them in general.

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  Ryowulf

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2/18/13 3:09:59 PM#34

Fav race? Asura

Race I want to play? Those humaniod bears in Lions Arch.

  Eir_S

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2/18/13 3:31:30 PM#35

Stop arguing about mounts... and stop saying they're "important" to make an MMO "right".  That sort of 1-dimensional thinking is why we had 8 years of WoW clones.  There is no right or wrong if a game plays well and people have fun.

On-topic: I don't know if I agree with the Kodan.  Their mythos doesn't appear all that different from the Norn, and you know damned good and well their starting area would be another "boring snow zone" as I've heard someone put it (personally I like them, but whatever).

As for the Tengu being puny, meh... they sure f'd up my shit in GW1 despite their size. lol

  Rayzer235

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2/18/13 3:41:45 PM#36
The Tengu cause in the Artbook that came with the CE says that the Tengu were originally made to be a playable race but Anet decided against to focus on the main 5 races of Tyria.
  Maleus666

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2/18/13 3:49:22 PM#37
I 'd love playing with a Kodan.

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  saurus123

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2/18/13 4:08:33 PM#38
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Czanrei
I choose none of the above. Because the game needs more RP-support, housing, and mounts way before it needs another hollow playable race. 

Doesn't need housing - waste of resouces - MOUNTS ARE NOT PART OF THE LORE - jeez - read the lore and that is why we have TP - don't need mounts as another waste of resources.

 

They are a small company and as such - doing the best they can. Yes, they messed but a bit, who hasn't (Trion did some beauts just after the release of Rift). They are also still supporting GW1.

 

I think it should be Tengu. If you did the add in to GW1, if you had the Bonus Mission Pack, you could play as Master Togo and help the Tengu in Cantha. I think Cantha would also be a nice add on then.

Wrong!!!!!!!!

 

Mounts and housing are an important feature for any game to get right and to exclude them is to take away from your playerbase.  We already have enough silly races in GW2 there needs to be other forms of content before we talk of new races.

and mounts are the content? :D

gw dont need mounts there is TP system invented by asura :)

if you focus on lore a bit you would understand

  botrytis

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2/18/13 4:15:11 PM#39
Originally posted by Dracondis
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Czanrei
I choose none of the above. Because the game needs more RP-support, housing, and mounts way before it needs another hollow playable race. 

Doesn't need housing - waste of resouces - MOUNTS ARE NOT PART OF THE LORE - jeez - read the lore and that is why we have TP - don't need mounts as another waste of resources.

 

They are a small company and as such - doing the best they can. Yes, they messed but a bit, who hasn't (Trion did some beauts just after the release of Rift). They are also still supporting GW1.

 I think it should be Tengu. If you did the add in to GW1, if you had the Bonus Mission Pack, you could play as Master Togo and help the Tengu in Cantha. I think Cantha would also be a nice add on then.

Housing is never a waste of resources.  I'm guessing you never had a HoM in GWEN.  Guess what, if you did:  Yep, that was a form of player housing.  You think its a waste of resources still?

Anyway, coming from games where they had player housing done right, it was a thriving industry in-game that promoted a healthy marketplace where people could buy and sell furnishings to spruce up the joint.  Robust economies are based not on functional items and gear, but on the little luxuries we don't need.  This is the way of the world.  Take video games.  If you think about it, video games are a luxury, and you don't need them.  Applying the logic used to deny player housing, no video game would EVER be made.  It's simply a waste of resources.  There are better things to put in the world than another video game.

Yes I did and thought it was a waste. Grind titles for what? It is not fun - that is the problem with player housing - you need to grind grind grind for it - sorry.

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by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

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2/18/13 4:19:19 PM#40

Kodan.

From the moment I saw that load screen art I thought they would be an awesome race to play.

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