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  Aeonblades

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2/15/13 1:05:14 PM#41
Originally posted by Skymourne

That innovation score needs to be wiped from the list, not just the score, but the category.  It's trying to "innovate" in action rpgs that destroyed Diablo 3 before it was even launched and turned it into an unrecognizable experience that dissapointed a lot of people.  You shouldn't innovate on something that was nailed so perfectly 12 years ago.  Don't mess with something that was right the first time.  All PoE did was plug leveled gems and a GIANT passive skill tree into the mix instead of a standard skill tree.  THAT was the smallest amount of innovation that was needed and it was an amazing idea.


It is very unfair to give a 6/10 in my mind for that score.  This game gets a 9/10 in my mind because of what it has offered me for the last nine months.  I have played it every single day and have loved every second of it.  I can't say that about a certain other game.

/thread ...RMAH was "innovating" (if you call one step forward two steps back innovation) and we see how that turned out. They couldn't even put in rune words, and the "crafting" system D3 has is probably the most randomized useless crafting system I ever saw. They may have changed the crafting, I don't know, but why it is even in an ARPG is beyond me.

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  azzamasin

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We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality.

2/15/13 1:05:29 PM#42
Originally posted by Normandy7
Only thing I can say is that I think meele combat still needs works. It still seems a little sluggish. Other than that it truely is fun game to play. It is so much better than Diablo 3 and  Torchlight 2. Definitely what arpg fans have been waiting for.

At the end of the day this is what caused me to stop playing.  Maybe one day when this is fixed I can return and give it a fair shot but for now I'll stick with TL2 as my ARPG of choice even though I prefer POE's graphics.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

  Bladestrom

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2/15/13 1:06:22 PM#43
Cool download time :). For me I missed out on Diablo 2, and 3 is dull. This looks like Diablo 2 evolved, can't wait!

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  Vannor

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2/15/13 1:15:03 PM#44
Originally posted by adam_nox
Not sure reviewer played enough or enough builds. The skill tree seems cool because it looks likeyou will have all these choices, but its an illusion, and non defense builds are mostly gimp.

You know what you said there contradicts itself, right? Not trying enough builds and then saying there arn't a lot of builds...

There is no illusion.. you choose every single thing that goes into your passive tree. It is exactly what it claims to be; a skill tree where you choose which branches to take.

  zellmer

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Joined: 8/30/09
Posts: 457

2/15/13 2:38:55 PM#45

The game is fine, but hte content gets old fast..

Kind of scary that after a year from when I played the closed beta so little was added in..

  Thorbrand

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Posts: 1217

2/15/13 2:40:39 PM#46
LOL...The game plays like old gauntlet and looks about as good as that. This game isn't even technical enough to be a modern game.
  Bladestrom

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2/15/13 2:43:40 PM#47
what do you mean by 'technical' ?

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  rodingo

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2/15/13 3:16:55 PM#48
Originally posted by Thorbrand
LOL...The game plays like old gauntlet and looks about as good as that. This game isn't even technical enough to be a modern game.

I bet you think D3 is the more "technical" game with only its diffuse mapping over PoE's normal and displacement mapping.

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  Aeonblades

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2/15/13 3:20:45 PM#49
Originally posted by Bladestrom
what do you mean by 'technical' ?

Sounds like one of the players that sucked it up on his first character and rage quit because he couldn't say oopsy daisies I put a point in the wrong skill let me get out of combat and completely change everything about my class. This game has more technicality in it than other ARPG on the market, if you want more you have go full on MMO.

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  Zuvielify

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2/15/13 4:11:33 PM#50

My problem with this game (if you can call it a problem) is I want to give them my money, but there is nothing in their cash shop I see worth buying. 


 


Personally, I think they should sell orbs of regret to respec. I don't think that fits the definition of pay to win. 


  BeansnBread

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Joined: 9/19/06
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2/15/13 4:16:51 PM#51
Originally posted by Zuvielify

My problem with this game (if you can call it a problem) is I want to give them my money, but there is nothing in their cash shop I see worth buying. 


 


Personally, I think they should sell orbs of regret to respec. I don't think that fits the definition of pay to win. 

That similar to paying real money for in game currency. Orb of regrets are in game currency right now and allowing them to be sold for real money would be considered P2W by many people.

 

I want to buy 200 orb of regrets. Now I can give this guy 100 orbs and purchase the best item in the game from him.

 

When a game is completely centered around loot, I think that would cheapen the experience.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  k44mos

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Joined: 11/28/09
Posts: 22

2/15/13 4:24:39 PM#52

 Well said my good man. Well said.


 


 If a game has an ability bar, resource meters (mana, hp etc.), a stat system, an inventory, isometric perspective - Nooes -> Diablo clone.


 


 Go play pre '99 games. See how Diablo itself is a fucking copy. All Blizzard games are copies but they provide flawless gameplay. Getting sidetracked.


 


 


 PoE provides unique elements that cannot be found in any other arpg (hack&slash). It borrows certain elements that proved to be working. I'm fine with the UI, the isometric perspective and the rest of nonsense everybody else is complaining about.


 


 


 The game is hard but it rewards out-of-the-box thinking. You must plan a build and stick to it. There are few abilities so far but that will change. I am sure we will see more. What will the other morons say when the game will have over 100 active abilities and over 100 passive gems? Even with so few abilities, the game is more interesting than most of the games I've played these last few years.


 


 The flask system is brilliant. I love it.


 


 The orb system is fucking brilliant. I love it.


 


 The economic system is brilliant. I love it.


 


 


 I don't like the passive tree that much but I know that it will get tweaked in the future.


 


 


 Play the game. Stick with it and you will be surprised at how fun it can be.


  Novuhz

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2/15/13 4:35:28 PM#53

The combat makes me not want to play this game sadly.


Wish it had the fluid combat of D3.


Other than that the game is pretty good, but yeah gameplay is everything for me when playing a game the combat of PoE is just total crap...


Got to lvl 49 then just quitted.


  Skymourne

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2/15/13 4:44:34 PM#54
Originally posted by Zixizor

The combat makes me not want to play this game sadly.


Wish it had the fluid combat of D3.


Other than that the game is pretty good, but yeah gameplay is everything for me when playing a game the combat of PoE is just total crap...


Got to lvl 49 then just quitted.

That's the problem right there.  Blizzard sells polish...that's it.  Gameplay means more than fluidity.  PoE has 20 people on staff.  20.  Diablo 3 had thousands and the fact that 20 people can pour their passion into a product and it, without a doubt, destroys the product of over 1000 holier-than-thou blowhards is amazing.  It's a shame you quit, because this game is going places that Diablo 3 never will.  That's a shame too because i like D3's fluid gameplay as well.  Too bad Blizzard brought nothing else to the table.

  Vhaln

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2/15/13 4:51:48 PM#55
Personally, I can't really knock it for being to similar to other ARPGs, when it's the best in the entire genre.  Even better than Diablo 2, IMHO.  Especially if potential is taken into account.  I'm looking forward to seeing where they go with it.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  Myrdynn

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Posts: 1452

2/15/13 6:33:51 PM#56
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Zuvielify

My problem with this game (if you can call it a problem) is I want to give them my money, but there is nothing in their cash shop I see worth buying. 


 


Personally, I think they should sell orbs of regret to respec. I don't think that fits the definition of pay to win. 

That similar to paying real money for in game currency. Orb of regrets are in game currency right now and allowing them to be sold for real money would be considered P2W by many people.

 

I want to buy 200 orb of regrets. Now I can give this guy 100 orbs and purchase the best item in the game from him.

 

When a game is completely centered around loot, I think that would cheapen the experience.

buy some stash slots

40$ gets you 12 customizable slots

I have 

Gems/Orbs/Chain/Plate/Scale/Cloth/Jewelry/Shields/Swords-Daggers/Axes-Maces/Wands-Fists/Bows-Quiv/ and the 4 greys are for whites/blues/leveling gear/miscellaneous stuff

 

  Bladestrom

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2/15/13 6:46:58 PM#57
Oh my this game is fun!

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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  kp695304

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2/15/13 6:56:15 PM#58
I played for a while about 9-12 months ago and am just now revisiting it. They have smoothed out alot of the rough edges and added a great deal since I have last played. I am impressed with how far it has come. I would give this game a 9/10 easy. 
  Bladestrom

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2/15/13 7:24:39 PM#59
Originally posted by Skymourne
Originally posted by Zixizor

The combat makes me not want to play this game sadly.


Wish it had the fluid combat of D3.


Other than that the game is pretty good, but yeah gameplay is everything for me when playing a game the combat of PoE is just total crap...


Got to lvl 49 then just quitted.

That's the problem right there.  Blizzard sells polish...that's it.  Gameplay means more than fluidity.  PoE has 20 people on staff.  20.  Diablo 3 had thousands and the fact that 20 people can pour their passion into a product and it, without a doubt, destroys the product of over 1000 holier-than-thou blowhards is amazing.  It's a shame you quit, because this game is going places that Diablo 3 never will.  That's a shame too because i like D3's fluid gameplay as well.  Too bad Blizzard brought nothing else to the table.

blizzard =

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_plating_%28analogy%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_paralysis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_cow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overengineering

it goes on and on....

rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW (10000 hrs on main mage)> oblivion > LOTR (600 runemaster/Hunter) > Rift (230 hours mage) > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR

  Skymourne

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2/15/13 8:14:08 PM#60

blizzard =

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_plating_%28analogy%29


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_paralysis


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_cow


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overengineering


it goes on and on....



 


Agreed.  Pretty much nailed it.  There's some interesting information in the as well.  Good post.


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