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Originally posted by AresPL

true but the point here is that he talks about things he dont have any idea like wutang without range skills

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Well, to be fair there is no point trying to go range against kiting Tang. He still indeed NEED to get in range.

Game balance in the game is just horrid. It gets better at max lvl but still...

Originally posted by AresPL
as You noticed this isny typical MMO, in china shaolin wins with tang, ppl have to train more, in chinese version only tang are complaining

I thought it was just me! Since second internal, I feel a lot weaker. I will not engage in a fair fight now. I have to get the jump on the guy. It's making me better no question, but it's good to know it's not just me having some difficulty.

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Originally posted by AresPL

as You noticed this isny typical MMO, in china shaolin wins with tang, ppl have to train more, in chinese version only tang are complaining

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On the contrary. It is a typical MMO, only difference how you level your character.

As said before, just because it gets slightly better at max lvl does not make it less broken, just differently.

I hate when Companies actually want to make a profit on goods and services and stay in business.

/amazed at OP

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by AresPL

 

as You noticed this isny typical MMO, in china shaolin wins with tang, ppl have to train more, in chinese version only tang are complaining

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On the contrary. It is a typical MMO, only difference how you level your character.

As said before, just because it gets slightly better at max lvl does not make it less broken, just differently.

Yeah that's a pretty silly statment. If you are having that much trouble, you may need to read a couple guides.  You have the ability to not be hit in AoW. Understanding this makes it very different than you "typical" mmorpg.

If you get hit, you made a mistake. No two ways about it.  You make too many mistakes you die. There is a reason no other mmorpg has offered $150,000 winner take all 1v1 tourny.

No they do it for a better world, they made the game only for your fun and nothing else.. o wait ofcourse they do it for just the money. Do they do it in a smart way? no

Originally posted by Onigod

No they do it for a better world, they made the game only for your fun and nothing else.. o wait ofcourse they do it for just the money. Do they do it in a smart way? no

 

 

They do it just like EVE, and GW2... Yeah sure a pure sub game would be nice. Hard to do that when games are being given away for free...

No box fee though thank god. I spent 80$ on swtor, 50 on TSW, 60 on GW2, 50 on Pandara, 50 on RIFT. Complete bullshit last year. The industry robbed me last year. While i've paid on $9 for AoW since december... Hell I'm looking for something I can spend 10-15$ on, because I feel like I'm robbing them! 

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by AresPL

 

as You noticed this isny typical MMO, in china shaolin wins with tang, ppl have to train more, in chinese version only tang are complaining

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On the contrary. It is a typical MMO, only difference how you level your character.

As said before, just because it gets slightly better at max lvl does not make it less broken, just differently.

its more ppl like You who dont know much but talk, rock/paper/scissor isnt just about using block, normal attacks and feint, You need to know buffs, other styles and blocks

lets take it as shaolin vs tang, they use weituo stick which have 2 moves to run/fly to enemy, their block buff same as RG eagle claw add them speed, they also throw dart with slow debuff when they get in range with tang, most tang who dont know will use block which will be mistake as then shaolin will break it and add them big slow debuff +silence "flying" skills

its kinda like in moba games, where You have few classes but in each they have few characters with their ways to play, game is well planed only coz few ppl dont know how to handle it doesnt mean game is bad, after 4years only sholars were nerfed as almost no one played emei as sholars aoe heal worked for everyone not just them +small dmg nerf in kicking style

@bcbully at 36lvl 2nd will be good, especially with dagger, but later everyone will be able to get throwing style easy, +You have 1clanless throwing style already in TV

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Originally posted by AresPL

its more ppl like You who dont know much but talk, rock/paper/scissor isnt just about using block, normal attacks and feint, You need to know buffs, other styles and blocks

 

lets take it as shaolin vs tang, they use weituo stick which have 2 moves to run/fly to enemy, their block buff same as RG eagle claw add them speed, they also throw dart with slow debuff when they get in range with tang, most tang who dont know will use block which will be mistake as then shaolin will break it and add them big slow debuff +silence "flying" skills

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Oh dear..what a wall of clueless assumptions :/

1)
"Approach" skill is completely useless on target that is moving as your target will run away from skill distance in time you are approaching. In fact it will even slow you down. You also waste your flying skill energy while Tang can just be happily running on foot saving energy for later.

2)
The speed buff is no way near to buff Tangs got and despite parry buff, you still take a lot of damage from those 32 dmg darts(yeah, gear does not matter, right?) and you still get slowed down by all tang attacks. No way for you to catch kiting Tang.

3)
Shaolin skill sets has no Dart skill whatsoever.

As I said before, it gets a bit better later on when you get Goose and more HP/Parry but that does not make it less broken.

Tangs, RG and WV will be owning you hard for quite a long time before you get your levels and gear, even then it will be hit or miss with them.

assumptions? I am playing this game from june and know all skills, maybe Your ping sux, as in chinese version theres no problem in catching any one, everyone got basic throwing skill, in NA CB1 I beat tang and beggar from DragonV at same time only coz they know as much about this game as You and were sure that 2v1 will be their win

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Originally posted by AresPL

assumptions? I am playing this game from june and know all skills, maybe Your ping sux, as in chinese version theres no problem in catching any one, everyone got basic throwing skill, in NA CB1 I beat tang and beggar from DragonV at same time only coz they know as much about this game as You and were sure that 2v1 will be their win

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Cool story, Dart Shaolin :-P

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by AresPL

its more ppl like You who dont know much but talk, rock/paper/scissor isnt just about using block, normal attacks and feint, You need to know buffs, other styles and blocks

 

 

lets take it as shaolin vs tang, they use weituo stick which have 2 moves to run/fly to enemy, their block buff same as RG eagle claw add them speed, they also throw dart with slow debuff when they get in range with tang, most tang who dont know will use block which will be mistake as then shaolin will break it and add them big slow debuff +silence "flying" skills

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Oh dear..what a wall of clueless assumptions :/

1)
"Approach" skill is completely useless on target that is moving as your target will run away from skill distance in time you are approaching. In fact it will even slow you down. You also waste your flying skill energy while Tang can just be happily running on foot saving energy for later.

You fly past then charge back to the target. I learned this chasing people while robbing carts

2)
The speed buff is no way near to buff Tangs got and despite parry buff, you still take a lot of damage from those 32 dmg darts(yeah, gear does not matter, right?) and you still get slowed down by all tang attacks. No way for you to catch kiting Tang.

Speed DEBUFF re read.  It cancels tang speed buff.

3)
Shaolin skill sets has no Dart skill whatsoever.

not yet. We are only playing a 3rd of the game. It's still beta. Shaolin 4th set is ranged I believe. 4th set has not been relesed yet.

 

As I said before, it gets a bit better later on when you get Goose and more HP/Parry but that does not make it less broken.

Tangs, RG and WV will be owning you hard for quite a long time before you get your levels and gear, even then it will be hit or miss with them.

Saw a guy last night with 14 challenge win streak. He had 3 pieces of wood qaulity (lowest) gear 2 silver and a couple copper quality.

Again. If you get hit, you made a mistake. We all make mistakes. Make too many you die, but you can avoid be hit completely if you are skilled. 

when You will be able to use this, then we may talk, till then everything You say will be assumptions 

http://oi50.tinypic.com/34gow2t.jpg

yes shaolin 4th got 3 ranged skills and speed debuff

Originally posted by PhoenixC13
Sorry to break it to you but every game is made for money basicly.  If they didn't make money we would have none of the games.

obviously, but if there isnt a limit on how much gamers need to pay thats the inherent problem here, ofc u can dont pay anything let see how long u gonna play the game heh, go ahead be my guest and keep playing for free, let me know the day u quit roflmao.

Originally posted by Elminzter

Originally posted by PhoenixC13
Sorry to break it to you but every game is made for money basicly.  If they didn't make money we would have none of the games.

obviously, but if there isnt a limit on how much gamers need to pay thats the inherent problem here, ofc u can dont pay anything let see how long u gonna play the game heh, go ahead be my guest and keep playing for free, let me know the day u quit roflmao.

I bought the game that came with 3 months sub time, that's all I've ever felt the need to spend.  I've spent triple that on new MMO's that I got way less out of.  

Playing it free isn't practical really.  It's more like an unlimited free trail than a F2P option.  I agree with you there. That's a marketing issue, I blame the advertising industry :P But buying the game and subbing isn't outrageous.  If you can't scrape together 20 bucks you should be out grinding for money IRL instead of in a game anyway. 

Making money in the game is a bitch, and some skills (@#$%ing Goose! Still don't have it) are also a pain to get.  But I don't like things just handed to me in games anyway, so I'm cool with it.

Originally posted by Sybnal

Originally posted by Elminzter

Originally posted by PhoenixC13
Sorry to break it to you but every game is made for money basicly.  If they didn't make money we would have none of the games.

obviously, but if there isnt a limit on how much gamers need to pay thats the inherent problem here, ofc u can dont pay anything let see how long u gonna play the game heh, go ahead be my guest and keep playing for free, let me know the day u quit roflmao.

I bought the game that came with 3 months sub time, that's all I've ever felt the need to spend.  I've spent triple that on new MMO's that I got way less out of.  

Playing it free isn't practical really.  It's more like an unlimited free trail than a F2P option.  I agree with you there. That's a marketing issue, I blame the advertising industry :P But buying the game and subbing isn't outrageous.  If you can't scrape together 20 bucks you should be out grinding for money IRL instead of in a game anyway. 

Making money in the game is a bitch, and some skills (@#$%ing Goose! Still don't have it) are also a pain to get.  But I don't like things just handed to me in games anyway, so I'm cool with it.

i am cool with paying a sub, fact i had 3 vip accounts, unfortunately the way i see it SNAIL NA wants more than the VIP sub, they had not announced anything about their future plans at all, what they have done so far is to change what they announced whenever they deem fit, imo they dont have a clue about the importance of good customer service which is an inherent part of any western society.

just saying.

Originally posted by Elminzter

Originally posted by Sybnal

Originally posted by Elminzter

Originally posted by PhoenixC13
Sorry to break it to you but every game is made for money basicly.  If they didn't make money we would have none of the games.

obviously, but if there isnt a limit on how much gamers need to pay thats the inherent problem here, ofc u can dont pay anything let see how long u gonna play the game heh, go ahead be my guest and keep playing for free, let me know the day u quit roflmao.

I bought the game that came with 3 months sub time, that's all I've ever felt the need to spend.  I've spent triple that on new MMO's that I got way less out of.  

Playing it free isn't practical really.  It's more like an unlimited free trail than a F2P option.  I agree with you there. That's a marketing issue, I blame the advertising industry :P But buying the game and subbing isn't outrageous.  If you can't scrape together 20 bucks you should be out grinding for money IRL instead of in a game anyway. 

Making money in the game is a bitch, and some skills (@#$%ing Goose! Still don't have it) are also a pain to get.  But I don't like things just handed to me in games anyway, so I'm cool with it.

i am cool with paying a sub, fact i had 3 vip accounts, unfortunately the way i see it SNAIL NA wants more than the VIP sub, they had not announced anything about their future plans at all, what they have done so far is to change what they announced whenever they deem fit, imo they dont have a clue about the importance of good customer service which is an inherent part of any western society.

just saying.

What do you mean by they want more than a sub?  What else do you have to buy with real money?