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  odinsrath

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2/14/13 10:34:03 AM#21
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by xalvi

OH man you forgot to ask the biggest question of them all.

 

When will they finally start focusing on class balance? I would assume them having only 2 on the job for all the profession is true then.

No - they collect data from all the WvW, etc on  all the professions. They already siad they do that.  They believe data not people yelling ' OH MY GOD X profession IS SO OP'. First, every profession has a weakness, learn what they are and how to exploit them BEFORE WHINING about balance. I rmember the yelling, and I will bring it up again because it is classic, in Rift yelling about how OP Saboteurs were, when the game released. Sabs were glass cannons and people never tried to figure out how to deal with them, they just whined, The class got nerfed and it wasn't a viable role for 9 months to a year after the nerf. This is when Trion said, we are looking at data on the damage the roles ar taking/producing BEFORE balancing.

 

I might make the suggestion, learn to play your role before you actually whine. Playing one since the beginning does not mean you understand the profession at all.

 

easy to say ..has u ever been 2stotted by a thief or mowed down within seconds on your main by a thief or warr.?these 2 classes alone can just look at you and crap out more dps lol..  bugs are a big problem as well..as he said already..theres still tons outthere that they havent touched sence release

  darkhalf357x

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1108

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

2/14/13 10:45:55 AM#22

Not a big fan of GW2 but always find myself logging in week to week.  I like the direction they are going in having an over-arching story dictate the activites in the world.  Gives (more) reason for me to log in again... more frequently. 

Hoping they get around to adding more depth and complexity to the dialogue and of course more progression - but know that is taboo against the manifesto.  (I can still dream cant I?) ;-P

 

  BadSpock

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Joined: 8/21/04
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Logic be damned!

2/14/13 10:48:47 AM#23
Originally posted by odinsrath
Originally posted by botrytis

I might make the suggestion, learn to play your role before you actually whine. Playing one since the beginning does not mean you understand the profession at all.

easy to say ..has u ever been 2stotted by a thief or mowed down within seconds on your main by a thief or warr.?these 2 classes alone can just look at you and crap out more dps lol..  bugs are a big problem as well..as he said already..theres still tons outthere that they havent touched sence release

Um I play Thief in sPvP and I can easily escape from a Warrior/Thief who tries to jump me and mow me down in a few seconds, then I almost always win the fight because they tried to frontload so much and failed so, so hard.

And no, I don't play the same insane burst spec as those thieves - I play a sustained dps through bleeds build with tons of survivability and escape tactics.

 

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  UnderdogSMO

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Joined: 1/24/09
Posts: 48

2/14/13 10:54:49 AM#24
Originally posted by odinsrath
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by xalvi

OH man you forgot to ask the biggest question of them all.

 

When will they finally start focusing on class balance? I would assume them having only 2 on the job for all the profession is true then.

No - they collect data from all the WvW, etc on  all the professions. They already siad they do that.  They believe data not people yelling ' OH MY GOD X profession IS SO OP'. First, every profession has a weakness, learn what they are and how to exploit them BEFORE WHINING about balance. I rmember the yelling, and I will bring it up again because it is classic, in Rift yelling about how OP Saboteurs were, when the game released. Sabs were glass cannons and people never tried to figure out how to deal with them, they just whined, The class got nerfed and it wasn't a viable role for 9 months to a year after the nerf. This is when Trion said, we are looking at data on the damage the roles ar taking/producing BEFORE balancing.

 

I might make the suggestion, learn to play your role before you actually whine. Playing one since the beginning does not mean you understand the profession at all.

 

easy to say ..has u ever been 2stotted by a thief or mowed down within seconds on your main by a thief or warr.?these 2 classes alone can just look at you and crap out more dps lol..  bugs are a big problem as well..as he said already..theres still tons outthere that they havent touched sence release

 

 

errrmmm you do no that spike dammge thief and warriors are considerd low tear PVP builds right.

because thay can get you alot of fast and easy kills in the cluster ----- that is the low tear ranks's 

you get into the higher tears and the builds get alot more team focused and a spike build thief or warrior just get CRUSHED. 

if any one sounds like a wow kid around here its you.

((also this is not CTF its CTF like.  it still use's cap points but the flags are a secondary objective.  its actualy more like hut ball if anything))

 
  SteeJanz

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Joined: 8/22/11
Posts: 346

2/14/13 11:05:05 AM#25
Originally posted by BadSpock
Originally posted by odinsrath
Originally posted by botrytis

I might make the suggestion, learn to play your role before you actually whine. Playing one since the beginning does not mean you understand the profession at all.

easy to say ..has u ever been 2stotted by a thief or mowed down within seconds on your main by a thief or warr.?these 2 classes alone can just look at you and crap out more dps lol..  bugs are a big problem as well..as he said already..theres still tons outthere that they havent touched sence release

Um I play Thief in sPvP and I can easily escape from a Warrior/Thief who tries to jump me and mow me down in a few seconds, then I almost always win the fight because they tried to frontload so much and failed so, so hard.

And no, I don't play the same insane burst spec as those thieves - I play a sustained dps through bleeds build with tons of survivability and escape tactics.

 

Ditto.  I think FOTM build are to ingrained into us.  It's been how things have been, even in GW1.  I like how things are working out in GW2 when it comes to builds and the variety.  I was asked the other day what utility skills someone should use for a dungeon build.  My response, "Use all of them."

  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2527

2/14/13 11:14:18 AM#26
Originally posted by odinsrath
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by xalvi

OH man you forgot to ask the biggest question of them all.

 

When will they finally start focusing on class balance? I would assume them having only 2 on the job for all the profession is true then.

No - they collect data from all the WvW, etc on  all the professions. They already siad they do that.  They believe data not people yelling ' OH MY GOD X profession IS SO OP'. First, every profession has a weakness, learn what they are and how to exploit them BEFORE WHINING about balance. I rmember the yelling, and I will bring it up again because it is classic, in Rift yelling about how OP Saboteurs were, when the game released. Sabs were glass cannons and people never tried to figure out how to deal with them, they just whined, The class got nerfed and it wasn't a viable role for 9 months to a year after the nerf. This is when Trion said, we are looking at data on the damage the roles ar taking/producing BEFORE balancing.

 

I might make the suggestion, learn to play your role before you actually whine. Playing one since the beginning does not mean you understand the profession at all.

 

easy to say ..has u ever been 2stotted by a thief or mowed down within seconds on your main by a thief or warr.?these 2 classes alone can just look at you and crap out more dps lol..  bugs are a big problem as well..as he said already..theres still tons outthere that they havent touched sence release

Yes - initially - then learned what will deal with them - not so much any more. Had to do the same in GW1 - once learned, not a big deal.

 

Again - learn to play. The WHINE about thiefs is funny as hell as they are easy to deal with. Same with warriors. If you haven't figured out by now, you never will.

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  drbaltazar

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Joined: 3/28/07
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2/14/13 11:48:41 AM#27
Wvw?1:faction imbalance on most server is ludicrous . 2:see 1 good for you if the 3faction are balanced cause on mine its not,go blue go go blue go.beurk !boring.
  Geebus80

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Joined: 1/28/13
Posts: 96

2/14/13 11:58:46 AM#28

If you like a heavily guided themepark that offers little to no challenge outside of pvp (and t hat challenge comes threw imbalance) then GW2 is for you.

 

I think its a good game, just not really a game for adults or any gamer that likes any amount of challenge to their experience. From the mind numbingly poor armor art direction to the sad sad sad repetative weapon skins, if you like over and over GW2 is for you.

  nolic1

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Joined: 10/01/07
Posts: 673

2/14/13 12:02:18 PM#29
Great news and cant wait for the update to go into play so that I can mess with all the new stuff there adding. The guild missions sound amazing and really cool that it allows others to jump in and help thats one I will be trying as it starts.


To me I enjoy gaming I dont play to be uber I play to have fun. If a game is not fun to me guess what I move on and play something else till I find one that is. When I find that great game and not sure if in my life time there will be one I hope it has everything I want in an mmo.

  SteeJanz

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Joined: 8/22/11
Posts: 346

2/14/13 12:29:42 PM#30

I can't help but smile when I here all the talk about imbalance in GW2, especially in the age of macro's. 

The only way any game will ever be balanced is if everyone had the exact same skills and that would be boring and lack variety.  

I don't think most non-grumpy gamers are looking for balance.  I think there are looking for a chance to win in the fight.  For, example, being able to dodge a fire ball coming at me.  If I know what my opponent is going to do and I don't have an ability to get to him quickly to stop it, then I should have a mechanic to avoid his attack.  Just like  a channel skill should hit harder because it's more difficult to use. 

Sometimes it gets a bit ridiculous with all the claims.  I mean as a left-handed gamer, I could certainly push for GW2 to be a clicker only game so that all you right-handed players couldn't take advantage of all the fancy MMO mice, keyboards, and Nostromo/G13 game pads. 

It would be good for the players you know.  I mean if just getting beat down by that other player hurt, imagine how low the self esteem will fall when they found out he was a left-handed clicker too. 

 

  orbitxo

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2/14/13 12:38:08 PM#31

<sits back with bowl of popcorn to read this thread>

num num num.....

  Xenoska

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2/14/13 12:58:02 PM#32
Originally posted by orbitxo

<sits back with bowl of popcorn to read this thread>

num num num.....

 Best comment.

Same here, but with nachos.

Mmmm...

  darkhalf357x

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Joined: 1/25/12
Posts: 1108

I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

2/14/13 12:58:19 PM#33
Originally posted by Geebus80

If you like a heavily guided themepark that offers little to no challenge outside of pvp (and t hat challenge comes threw imbalance) then GW2 is for you.

 

I think its a good game, just not really a game for adults or any gamer that likes any amount of challenge to their experience. From the mind numbingly poor armor art direction to the sad sad sad repetative weapon skins, if you like over and over GW2 is for you.

Im not a fan of GW2 but how is the experience guided?  Even the hearts are randomly placed on the map and you would have to conciously run to them.

Agree somewhat on challenge, most of it for me being able to hit my number keys and dodge attacks at the same time -- but its no cake walk (at least for me).  I actually die more in GW2 than any other MMO I have played.

I wish the game had more 'depth'   Currently has an arcade-like feel with characters/story appearing one-dimensional.  Hoping Living story begins to improve on this.

Also just because you dont like a particular art direction does not mean the game itself is bad.  Stop passing your opinion off as fact.

  darkhalf357x

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I'm only playing the role chosen for me. Who you supposed to be?

2/14/13 12:59:43 PM#34
Originally posted by Xenoska
Originally posted by orbitxo

num num num.....

 Best comment.

Same here, but with nachos.

Mmmm...

Nice avatar... LOVE Cowboy Bebop ;-)

  Torgrim

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2/14/13 1:56:46 PM#35
Originally posted by Geebus80

 

 not really a game for adults

 

Few MMOs are.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  ranknvile

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2/14/13 2:00:08 PM#36

50 Year old ADULT who plays, and a Wife who is approaching 40 (yea...I married me a young'un) who logs in fanatically every day.

I disgaree about MMO's not being for adults...when it is as good as GW2.

  Aerowyn

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2/14/13 2:02:38 PM#37
Originally posted by ranknvile

50 Year old ADULT who plays, and a Wife who is approaching 40 (yea...I married me a young'un) who logs in fanatically every day.

I disgaree about MMO's not being for adults...when it is as good as GW2.

 

agreed I'm only 31 but been playing online games since I was 10.. All my RL friends that play are in their 40s

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  Celcius

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2/14/13 2:18:37 PM#38
Was already excited about the patch but after hearing what the guild missions are actually going to be im kinda stoked ;)
  nuttob

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2/14/13 3:11:07 PM#39
Games are for anyone who enjoys them, the end.
  shingoukieh

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2/14/13 3:18:53 PM#40
i dont care for GW2 anymore but i do appreciate that the company is updating it frequently and are really tryin to make it better.
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