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  Stug

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2/08/13 1:35:02 PM#21

Confusingthread.com

 

Started differently, went down hill fast.

  Silky303

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2/08/13 1:47:52 PM#22
Reach for the sky? Wasn't that Douglas Bader's autobiography?

SWG > Aces High > WWIIOL

  pittpete

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2/08/13 2:49:52 PM#23
Originally posted by anfiach`
Reaching

ding,ding,ding,ding

You da man anfiach, now get in game and have a some fun bro.

  david06

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2/08/13 6:25:14 PM#24

I get curious like you too OP, but I just log my free account whenever I do and usually I don't see much going on. The forums are nearly dead as well so there's even less reason; at one point I would stay subbed just to keep in touch with the community but so many people have left and you can't really talk about anything substantial without it being locked or deleted.


If I really get the itch, or if there's new content or game changes(lol) I might fork over the $9.99 for a month or so.

  Zbus

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2/08/13 6:55:51 PM#25
Yeah every so often I get the urge with the thought in my head that maybe this time CRS will listen change the game for the better problem is that never happens. So what I do now is hit them in the place that matters the wallet. Tough way to go about getting change but it seems to be the only method CRS understands. Sad part is at one time I was just like STUG when defending the game trust me when I say its been a long fall from that point, and it took alot of CRS work to get me to the place I am today feeling wise about the game. 
  UristMcDwarf

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2/09/13 3:14:25 AM#26

Ha, it's like a guy thinking about hitting up his ex-girlfriend. Don't do it! 

 

In all seriousness,

If you want to go back and reexperience your past adventures then resub and have fun! Just do yourself a favor and don't believe in the delusions of WWIIOL miracuously turning for the better because you'll only be kidding yourself. Nothing is going to change, unfortunately.

 

It's like some people want to belive that by hiring a new coder and pushing out the new patch it will somehow make a difference for WWIIOL. However, in my opinion - looking at past history - it'll only convince dissatisfied players to reconsider unsubscribing and possibly even bring back some curious vets. But in the end I think there's just too much work needed to make a drastic change and CRS simply doesn't have the manpower nor money to make a difference. 

 

Currently Playing:
nothing :(

  pittpete

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2/09/13 10:24:29 AM#27
Originally posted by UristMcDwarf

Ha, it's like a guy thinking about hitting up his ex-girlfriend. Don't do it! 

 

In all seriousness,

If you want to go back and reexperience your past adventures then resub and have fun! Just do yourself a favor and don't believe in the delusions of WWIIOL miracuously turning for the better because you'll only be kidding yourself. Nothing is going to change, unfortunately.

 

It's like some people want to belive that by hiring a new coder and pushing out the new patch it will somehow make a difference for WWIIOL. However, in my opinion - looking at past history - it'll only convince dissatisfied players to reconsider unsubscribing and possibly even bring back some curious vets. But in the end I think there's just too much work needed to make a drastic change and CRS simply doesn't have the manpower nor money to make a difference. 

 

I guess I'm one of those people still hoping.

The majority of work on 1.35 is supposedly done so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Time will tell if they have 1 more trick up their sleeve or  the rabbit is dead

  hoober

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2/09/13 11:15:13 AM#28
Originally posted by pittpete
Originally posted by UristMcDwarf

Ha, it's like a guy thinking about hitting up his ex-girlfriend. Don't do it! 

 

In all seriousness,

If you want to go back and reexperience your past adventures then resub and have fun! Just do yourself a favor and don't believe in the delusions of WWIIOL miracuously turning for the better because you'll only be kidding yourself. Nothing is going to change, unfortunately.

 

It's like some people want to belive that by hiring a new coder and pushing out the new patch it will somehow make a difference for WWIIOL. However, in my opinion - looking at past history - it'll only convince dissatisfied players to reconsider unsubscribing and possibly even bring back some curious vets. But in the end I think there's just too much work needed to make a drastic change and CRS simply doesn't have the manpower nor money to make a difference. 

 

I guess I'm one of those people still hoping.

The majority of work on 1.35 is supposedly done so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Time will tell if they have 1 more trick up their sleeve or  the rabbit is dead

I had to look this 1.35 up. Not much talk about it right now... any idea when it will be reality ?

However, I fear that when/if 1.35 appears it will be the end of all the remaining strategic and non-arcade aspects of the game, because as I understand it they are going to further develop the troop teleporting features. Thats sad because other things in 1.35 looked more promising.

So I will not re-sub ever to this game. This was my last post here. Good bye.

  anfiach`

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OP  2/09/13 12:38:43 PM#29
Well thanks for the input guys. I'm looking at resubbing next month and am currently in talks with my squad about returning. We have no expectations for the success or improvement of BE other than to have a few laughs before the lights go out.
  axishatr

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2/09/13 3:11:39 PM#30
Originally posted by anfiach`
Well thanks for the input guys. I'm looking at resubbing next month and am currently in talks with my squad about returning. We have no expectations for the success or improvement of BE other than to have a few laughs before the lights go out.

This woud be the right approach for someone that has been in game a long time and returning after leave.  To expect more will lead to disappointment and clashes with the company.

 

The company, in all honesty, are tapped out.  I don't see the Hero accounts reaching goal this month.  I also do not see enough paying subs coming in.

 

Get in and enjoy the ride before the safety commision comes in and shuts the coaster down because the supports are loose or missing.

 

Maybe, just maybe, things will change and there will be a boom.....

  Silky303

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2/10/13 3:02:22 AM#31
Originally posted by axishatr
Originally posted by anfiach`
Well thanks for the input guys. I'm looking at resubbing next month and am currently in talks with my squad about returning. We have no expectations for the success or improvement of BE other than to have a few laughs before the lights go out.

This woud be the right approach for someone that has been in game a long time and returning after leave.  To expect more will lead to disappointment and clashes with the company.

 

The company, in all honesty, are tapped out.  I don't see the Hero accounts reaching goal this month.  I also do not see enough paying subs coming in.

 

Get in and enjoy the ride before the safety commision comes in and shuts the coaster down because the supports are loose or missing.

 

Maybe, just maybe, things will change and there will be a boom.....

Question - how cohesive or organised is this mass of unsubbed players? Are we talking a series of squads playing other games or in touch through forums or are we talking about a few vocal individuals? If this were a RL insurrection, would you frame yourselves as a coordinated opposition group or as fragmented warlords with individual grudges and issues?

SWG > Aces High > WWIIOL

  Zbus

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2/10/13 3:32:19 AM#32
Originally posted by Silky303
Originally posted by axishatr
Originally posted by anfiach`
Well thanks for the input guys. I'm looking at resubbing next month and am currently in talks with my squad about returning. We have no expectations for the success or improvement of BE other than to have a few laughs before the lights go out.

This woud be the right approach for someone that has been in game a long time and returning after leave.  To expect more will lead to disappointment and clashes with the company.

 

The company, in all honesty, are tapped out.  I don't see the Hero accounts reaching goal this month.  I also do not see enough paying subs coming in.

 

Get in and enjoy the ride before the safety commision comes in and shuts the coaster down because the supports are loose or missing.

 

Maybe, just maybe, things will change and there will be a boom.....

Question - how cohesive or organised is this mass of unsubbed players? Are we talking a series of squads playing other games or in touch through forums or are we talking about a few vocal individuals? If this were a RL insurrection, would you frame yourselves as a coordinated opposition group or as fragmented warlords with individual grudges and issues?

Like it matters Silky with the current system they could be the most organized and cohesive players that ever played the game for all the good it would do them. They will join the rest of the cat herd in the P1 rush and if they are lucky to not have a grudge at CRS before they join they will after I have no doubt. One can only take just so much of once more into the meat grinder my friends before they start banging thier head against a wall at how retarded the whole HC thought process is regarding attack supply and just about anything else you can think up.

Besides at the rate this game is going any new or returning player should be welcomed with open arms lol.

  david06

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2/10/13 5:44:26 AM#33


Originally posted by Silky303
Question - how cohesive or organised is this mass of unsubbed players? Are we talking a series of squads playing other games or in touch through forums or are we talking about a few vocal individuals? If this were a RL insurrection, would you frame yourselves as a coordinated opposition group or as fragmented warlords with individual grudges and issues?

Silky there are entire WW2online squads that left the game and are playing other games while still retaining their original WW2online title. Planetside 2, the War Thunder beta, World of Tanks, etc.


You should be able to find their forums/websites. Talk to them and they will fully admit that these other games don't quite fill the itch that WW2online did, but the current game is just that unenjoyable that they've gone on to other games because if nothing else there's good fun and incentives(rather than disincentives) for teamwork.


There are more players who've played the game and left because of some unpopular decision from CRS than there are playing now, so I think it would be a mistake to think that you're on the right track and that it's just a vocal few.

  anfiach`

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OP  2/10/13 9:17:17 AM#34
I read that as a backhanded way of determining if this was an organized walk out.  Silky, it doesn't matter if they are organized or not, they have a legitimate gripe. CRS had meddled far too often in the outcomes of the game when they should be determined by the players.
  Silky303

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2/10/13 11:45:35 AM#35
I momentarily forgot how deep the suspicion runs here

I was asking neither to suggest it was a vocal few or to suggest it had been organised. I wanted to know how cohesive the players sat on the sidelines are, in regards to taking a future step forward by means of collective action

I've never seen the dev team be do open with financial matters and membership objectives. I was perhaps seeing some kind of discussion taking place between a loose ex-player congregation and the Rats with a view to seeing if there's any desire on either side to flex

SWG > Aces High > WWIIOL

  anfiach`

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OP  2/10/13 12:09:29 PM#36
The players have been "flexing" for 12 years. It is high time that CRS consider doing some on their side of the front lines.
  david06

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2/10/13 12:45:36 PM#37

I think the only cohesion among the former subscribers(aside from stuff like an interest in mil-sims and PvP games) is that we don't have confidence in the company.


There are hardcore axis and allied players, people who hate the high command system as well as former high commanders, all sorts of variety but we can generally agree on that one topic.


I mean just look at how long people played, or how much they contributed both in money and volunteer work. Personally I hated CRS's game decisions for years yet I still stayed subscribed; it was only when they made it obvious that they weren't working on WW2online anymore that I left. No confidence.

  Silky303

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2/10/13 12:46:32 PM#38
Originally posted by anfiach`
The players have been "flexing" for 12 years. It is high time that CRS consider doing some on their side of the front lines.

I'm guessing a career in the diplomatic corps isn't for you?

 

If - big if, I understand - a group of squads could present something like a united front, a kind of "we'll consider resubbing in incremental blocs on the understanding that meaningful discussions take place", I wonder what the outcome might be.

Might fall at the first hurdle, might go the distance, might be anywhere in between.

But the starting position would be the question that I asked originally - what kind of cohesion is there in the "Opposition". Could, say, Oj or Blood23 front the Opposition bloc on the understanding that if he reported back that CRS might look at flexing on HC, on ToES, on AO numbers, on zero future map interference - and command some kind of response, eg 20 Builder accounts, 20 resubs etc

 

Just an interesting avenue to consider

SWG > Aces High > WWIIOL

  Karu403

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2/10/13 1:04:32 PM#39

they (the unsubbers) will have much more fun playing the shoe-box games with pretty graphics and hollow gameplay.

 

now that they are gone, its not a constant axis overpop genkfest. the servers are actually spending most of their time in a balanced state. at least up untill yesterday when the axis let themselves get surrounded and lost half their army for 12 hours. been allied overpop since.

  anfiach`

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OP  2/10/13 1:56:50 PM#40
Originally posted by Silky303
Originally posted by anfiach`
The players have been "flexing" for 12 years. It is high time that CRS consider doing some on their side of the front lines.

I'm guessing a career in the diplomatic corps isn't for you?

 

If - big if, I understand - a group of squads could present something like a united front, a kind of "we'll consider resubbing in incremental blocs on the understanding that meaningful discussions take place", I wonder what the outcome might be.

Might fall at the first hurdle, might go the distance, might be anywhere in between.

But the starting position would be the question that I asked originally - what kind of cohesion is there in the "Opposition". Could, say, Oj or Blood23 front the Opposition bloc on the understanding that if he reported back that CRS might look at flexing on HC, on ToES, on AO numbers, on zero future map interference - and command some kind of response, eg 20 Builder accounts, 20 resubs etc

 

Just an interesting avenue to consider

No Diplomat shoes for me. No sense beating around the bush. That's an interesting concept. The problem is that CRS has no bargaining power. Sadly they've gotten to the point where they can't make any moves in good faith because they need people's money before they can do anything. People already don't trust/have faith in them. Until they do something, it's just empty promises for profit.

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