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  supertouchme

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Posts: 69

2/12/13 2:10:29 PM#121
what's the purpose of this thread? to inform people that a company with an illustrious history was able to use popular IP to sell millions of games?
  ThomasN7

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2/12/13 2:11:18 PM#122
Don't see how this is humanly possible. The game isn't very good in my opinion. Both auction houses ruined the entire Diablo experience.
  nariusseldon

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Posts: 19248

2/12/13 2:13:56 PM#123
Originally posted by supertouchme
what's the purpose of this thread? to inform people that a company with an illustrious history was able to use popular IP to sell millions of games?

And shows that hate on a website matters very little in the market place?

  BizkitNL

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Joined: 12/29/02
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"Free to play, pay to win""

2/12/13 2:18:25 PM#124
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again.

 

 

 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

Feel like trying Planetside 2? Get a headstart with the starter kit!

  Thorbrand

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2/12/13 2:20:29 PM#125
Why does this matter every year for anyone? Most people actually don't care what the WOW numbers are and will not buy D4 because they scammed everyone with D3.
  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
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2/12/13 2:22:35 PM#126
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again.

 

 

 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

I bet there are quite a few like you here. Just that they are not as vocal as the haters.

  gordiflu

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Joined: 1/22/07
Posts: 763

2/12/13 2:22:44 PM#127
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again.

 

 

 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

Sales do not necessarily mean quality.

McDonnalds sells more food than Ferran Adria.

Vin Diesel sells more movies than Kim Ki Duk

Justin Bieber sells more CDs than Dream Theater.

Rowling sells more books than Goethe.

I guess you get the idea.

  Hauvarn

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Joined: 3/24/12
Posts: 223

2/12/13 2:23:34 PM#128
I still like sc2 :(

Yes I played SWTOR.

  supertouchme

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Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 69

2/12/13 2:23:48 PM#129
Originally posted by Normandy7
Don't see how this is humanly possible. The game isn't very good in my opinion. Both auction houses ruined the entire Diablo experience.

it isn't very good. people always seem to underestimate the power of marketing and reputation. it sold precisely because it was made by blizzard and it was a sequel in a successful series.

  User Deleted
2/12/13 2:29:14 PM#130
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again. 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

Sales do not necessarily mean quality.

McDonnalds sells more food than Ferran Adria.

Vin Diesel sells more movies than Kim Ki Duk

Justin Bieber sells more CDs than Dream Theater.

Rowling sells more books than Goethe.

I guess you get the idea.

 

And yet, sales also does not mean it's NOT high quality.

 

McDonalds may be a low cost leader

Vin Diesel and Justin Beiber movies/ "music" are aimed at a certain target audience

Rowling are aimed at Young Adults that adults also enjoy.

 

With the exception of McDonalds, none of those things mean poor quality. It just means different people have different tastes or are not so full of themselves that they allow themselves to enjoy more than one type of thing.

 

  saurus123

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Joined: 4/12/06
Posts: 505

2/12/13 2:31:08 PM#131

ok d3 sold 12mil copies

 

now ask how many was refunded :)

  Z3R01

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2/12/13 2:31:26 PM#132
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Probably because d3 is the second worst recent "big game", after star wars.

SWTOR is actually pretty high on Xfire also... #13 i believe. 

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  User Deleted
2/12/13 2:32:09 PM#133
Originally posted by supertouchme
Originally posted by Normandy7
Don't see how this is humanly possible. The game isn't very good in my opinion. Both auction houses ruined the entire Diablo experience.

it isn't very good. people always seem to underestimate the power of marketing and reputation. it sold precisely because it was made by blizzard and it was a sequel in a successful series.

 

D3 is an excellent ARPG. It could have been made by "Bill the ARPG Guy" instead of Blizzard and I still would have bought it.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19248

2/12/13 2:37:17 PM#134
Originally posted by supertouchme
Originally posted by Normandy7
Don't see how this is humanly possible. The game isn't very good in my opinion. Both auction houses ruined the entire Diablo experience.

it isn't very good. people always seem to underestimate the power of marketing and reputation. it sold precisely because it was made by blizzard and it was a sequel in a successful series.

And some overestimate the power of marketing and reputation. John Carter was hugely marketed. Battleship was hugely marketed. All flop badly.

Spieberg has a great reputation and yet 1941 flopped.

Michael Bay has a lousy reputation and how much does Transformer 3 made? more than $1B.

 

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 19248

2/12/13 2:38:05 PM#135
Originally posted by Z3R01
Originally posted by ShakyMo
Probably because d3 is the second worst recent "big game", after star wars.

SWTOR is actually pretty high on Xfire also... #13 i believe. 

After it went F2P. I have no doubt it is pretty popular. It is, after all, Star Wars, free, and you can play a jedi and a sith.

  BizkitNL

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Joined: 12/29/02
Posts: 2276

"Free to play, pay to win""

2/12/13 2:38:08 PM#136
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again.

 

 

 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

Sales do not necessarily mean quality.

McDonnalds sells more food than Ferran Adria.

Vin Diesel sells more movies than Kim Ki Duk

Justin Bieber sells more CDs than Dream Theater.

Rowling sells more books than Goethe.

I guess you get the idea.

I say their games are quality.

All opinion, obviously :).

Feel like trying Planetside 2? Get a headstart with the starter kit!

  gordiflu

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Joined: 1/22/07
Posts: 763

2/12/13 2:38:08 PM#137
Originally posted by Psychow
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again. 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

Sales do not necessarily mean quality.

McDonnalds sells more food than Ferran Adria.

Vin Diesel sells more movies than Kim Ki Duk

Justin Bieber sells more CDs than Dream Theater.

Rowling sells more books than Goethe.

I guess you get the idea.

 

And yet, sales also does not mean it's NOT high quality.

 

McDonalds may be a low cost leader

Vin Diesel and Justin Beiber movies/ "music" are aimed at a certain target audience

Rowling are aimed at Young Adults that adults also enjoy.

 

With the exception of McDonalds, none of those things mean poor quality. It just means different people have different tastes or are not so full of themselves that they allow themselves to enjoy more than one type of thing.

 

And Blizzard games are aimed at certain type of players, which was exactly my point.

  Z3R01

Novice Member

Joined: 9/09/08
Posts: 2457

MMO gamer since 1997

2/12/13 2:41:26 PM#138
Originally posted by Psychow
Originally posted by supertouchme
Originally posted by Normandy7
Don't see how this is humanly possible. The game isn't very good in my opinion. Both auction houses ruined the entire Diablo experience.

it isn't very good. people always seem to underestimate the power of marketing and reputation. it sold precisely because it was made by blizzard and it was a sequel in a successful series.

 

D3 is an excellent ARPG. It could have been made by "Bill the ARPG Guy" instead of Blizzard and I still would have bought it.

This is how good D3 is. It sold 12 million copies due to the popularity of both Diablo 2 and WoW. 12 million!!!!

Now recently a new ARPG hit the market named Path of Exile. It reached 65k concurrent users this transulates to around 500k active accounts.

According to Xfire Diablo 3 and Path fo Exile have similar concurrent users online atm.

That means out of 12 million paying players only 500k+ are actualy active players now... 

I wouldnt call D3 a good game after seeing those numbers and Blizzard were certainly unhappy with the way Diablo 3 turned out... proven by Jay Wilsons exit from D3 development. 

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  User Deleted
2/12/13 2:42:18 PM#139
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by Psychow
Originally posted by gordiflu
Originally posted by BizkitNL
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Cod_Eye

And over 11 million are dissapointed and vow to never buy a Blizzard product again. 

 

Before ranting at me, I jest.

Want to bet millions will buy Heart of the Swarm, and the D3 expansion?

I am one of those millions.

One simply can't argue against quality games.

Sales do not necessarily mean quality.

McDonnalds sells more food than Ferran Adria.

Vin Diesel sells more movies than Kim Ki Duk

Justin Bieber sells more CDs than Dream Theater.

Rowling sells more books than Goethe.

I guess you get the idea.

 

And yet, sales also does not mean it's NOT high quality.

 

McDonalds may be a low cost leader

Vin Diesel and Justin Beiber movies/ "music" are aimed at a certain target audience

Rowling are aimed at Young Adults that adults also enjoy.

 

With the exception of McDonalds, none of those things mean poor quality. It just means different people have different tastes or are not so full of themselves that they allow themselves to enjoy more than one type of thing.

 

And Blizzard games are aimed at certain type of players, which was exactly my point.

 

I your point is that the target audience are: People who like to play MMO's, have fun and are willing to pay a subscription, then I agree with you.

 

If your point is the target audience is: Stupid, mindless, riff-raff that wouldn't know a quality product if it hit them in the face, then I don't agree with you.

  supertouchme

Apprentice Member

Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 69

2/12/13 2:42:21 PM#140
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by supertouchme
Originally posted by Normandy7
Don't see how this is humanly possible. The game isn't very good in my opinion. Both auction houses ruined the entire Diablo experience.

it isn't very good. people always seem to underestimate the power of marketing and reputation. it sold precisely because it was made by blizzard and it was a sequel in a successful series.

And some overestimate the power of marketing and reputation. John Carter was hugely marketed. Battleship was hugely marketed. All flop badly.

Spieberg has a great reputation and yet 1941 flopped.

Michael Bay has a lousy reputation and how much does Transformer 3 made? more than $1B.

 

there's a variety of factors at play. john carter and 1941 weren't long-awaited sequels and people didn't camp out at theatres on opening day. people bought diablo 3 because it was fucking diablo.

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