If they really want players to beta test it, they should offer it to them for free to do so.

Once they collect money, they're really giving early access to the game and people's expectation will be higher.

Keeping the NDA up, not providing a release date isn't the way to reduce the negative reporting, if the game is good, they should feel free to let people see it and decide for themselves.

Otherwise the campaign of mis-information will continue for the near term.

Yeah, could be true, that might have been better

but maybe they did that because they first tought they where going to launch and already had sold copies of the game. it then becomes some how difficult to refund all those people. and it would be unfair that, after the delay in december, they would new people play the beta for free.

they wanted to at least give something to lesser the diapointment so they opened up the beta for people whp had already payd for the real game

if they new before they could have done it like you say yeah

greets

lfmmp

pls people.

I am following and playing this game for almost 8 years.. and i can say you this..

a: game is not vapoware

b: the company is still the same.

I got addicted to darkfall because of its competitive gameplay.. 

tbh.. try this game out in 4/5 months and maybe they got a fully working game then..

cant say anything else because of nda

Originally posted by loveForMmos

I write this massage because i am really a fan and i cannot stand seeing some of the overcritical messages from DF1 vets I see around

You really got to test this game yourself before jumping to conclusions.

 

 I did the same before, after i read some negative posts, but I can tell you this game is a winner!

 

Maybe it is not DF 1, I have never played the game but it surely attracted me, that's why i am attracted now to Darkfall UW as well.

 I feel this second darkfall game is really making true what it promises.

 

It has none of the typical unrealistic features of most mmo's.

It has the immersiveness of games like Skyrim, but then in multiplayermode

 

monsters do act like monsters, they are not just waiting there with a red name above their head untill you come and grab there exp and loot and there are no questhomies everywhere you look. it has not of a themeparc feeling to it but is rather a more realistic, living, breating world

 

Wait, i really like traditional mmo's, preferably Vanguard. But this kind of  game i find even

better because it is more realistic and you play more against real people then against the AI, just like you do in EVE online

 

This is going to be a finished game soon, without many bugs, certainly compared to DF 1

Maybe a tiny bit less hardcore, but on the right area's, which is a good thing because it opens the game up for a lot more people

It is not less HC in the sense that it is has less challenge. it is less HC in the sense that the gamaplay seems smoother then in DF 1. it is less niche in that sense. but it is very original, not at all a tehemeparc for the big masses, it doe not give up it's principles to apply to the great masses if you get what i mean

 

It is still true to it's principles, but more accesible due to it better UI

 

So enough said, you got to play the game before taking conclusions, that's all I want to say

 

Greetings

 

a big European Darkfalls UW fan

 Green: blind fanism.....

Red: I don't want "multiplayer" mode.

Originally posted by loveForMmos

Yeah, could be true, that might have been better

 

but maybe they did that because they first tought they where going to launch 

Do you really believe the game was ready for launch? That Aventurine believed themself it was?

Originally posted by naljeja

I have played for 2 weeks without a single crash, without a single DC, with 130 fps and 60 ping all along. I have had more fun the recent 3 weeks than i've had the last 2 years of DF 1 and in any other game, even if it's hard to play the game the same way in a beta.

 

Those who are hesitant shouldnt play the beta, because, well it is a beta to test things and adress things. If you think this beta is a free trial then i'm sorry to say you are a victim of the disgusting trend the last years of companies launching free catchy trials disguised as beta.. AV and DFuw beta is not 1 of them.

/signed hate it how companies misuse the beta tag so to speak. Beta is for testing, it's not a free trial.

Enjoy beta so far and getting ready to try out all the new changes of today.

PS: DF1 vets have told ppl not to defend DF:UW to try and force AV to bring back DF1 or something. So don't suck up all the negativity like a sponch. There are some real retards here.

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

 tbh.. try this game out in 4/5 months and maybe they got a fully working game then..

 

So the first release date was just a fake then?

Why even have a release date 2012 when it's far away going gold?

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

 tbh.. try this game out in 4/5 months and maybe they got a fully working game then..

 

So the first release date was just a fake then?

Why even have a release date 2012 when it's far away going gold?

i made peace with this company years ago..and just played the game..

the who or what or when question.. well lets say.. you ask them but i don''t think they even know them theirselves

take your worst experience with any mmo you ever played.. ( company wise) and multuply that feeling with 300%

Originally posted by Snoepie

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Snoepie

 

 tbh.. try this game out in 4/5 months and maybe they got a fully working game then..

 

So the first release date was just a fake then?

Why even have a release date 2012 when it's far away going gold?

i made peace with this company years ago..and just played the game..

 

the who or what or when question.. well lets say.. you ask them but i don''t think they even know them theirselves

 

take your worst experience with any mmo you ever played.. ( company wise) and multuply that feeling with 300%

Well the original title for this game was Darkfall 2010 so asking about release date is pretty much pointless hehe. But AV makes good decisions, not retarded onces like Funcom made with AoC or Bioware wasting the biggest budget in mmo history on a game called SWTOR. What a dissapointment that was... Wish AV had that kind of resources....

WTF are you talking about OP? Yes the game is "playable" and yes the game might have a nice world but that doesn't mean shit if its not fun to play and is highly exploitable. 

Why do you think I stopped playing 2 weeks ago? Uh lets see I log on to see that fights go on forever because of the stupid stat management, combat is highly gear dependent now, and when I went to PvE most of not all the mobs were bugged (e.g standing still) and being exploited. 

Combat involved people running to and from safe zones, and endless fights. 

Oh and housing was disabled. Oh and grinding and macroing is still ingame. UI sucks. 

What sandbox fun. 

Im sorry DF1 was way more fun and had more content and freedom.

Originally posted by DarkfallFanatic

 Oh and grinding and macroing is still ingame. 

This is what I'm most concerned about. I thought this was supposed to be "fixed" in DFUW, but I've read a lot around here that it's not. 

Has AV said anything about this recently?

Originally posted by PWN_FACE

Originally posted by DarkfallFanatic

 Oh and grinding and macroing is still ingame. 

This is what I'm most concerned about. I thought this was supposed to be "fixed" in DFUW, but I've read a lot around here that it's not. 

 

Has AV said anything about this recently?

I don't think they will even acknowledge it, it is just a feature that is included in their hardcore MMO. I guess AV sees it as a given to any European MMO since anything less would eliminate progression. 

However this is false I shouldn't have to craft 100 chain armors to increase my armorsmithing by 3. 

As it stood in beta when I paid you HAD to grind pointlessly. First of all to be competitive in PvP, and second of all to get anything done. 

Let me explain. So obviously I started the game with nothing like everybody does. So in order for me to get even the basics to combat like a sword and decent armor, I had 2 choices

a) go farm ore and create my own

b) use the economy

Both of these are broken. First of all I couldn't even use B because there is no economy. Unless you are clanned literally nobody is buying or selling - this worries me. The ONLY way to trade is via chat channel. There are no stalls, no auction house, etc. Just chat.

Furthermore farming ore and wood is extremely boring and most time fails which makes it more frustrating. So I had to ride around the empty world while looking for AFK miners and killing them. Great so I did that and got 200 ore. I go back and use all that ore to grind up my smithing to at least get banded armor. I kid you not of the 200 ore 40% of it fails during the smelting process and the rest increased my smithing by approximately 0.8. Out of 25 required to make banded.

Now this wouldn't really be an issue if the game wasn't so gear dependent. So I think screw it, with enough skill I *should* be able to take down a dude in banded, right? So I find a player and proceed to hit him for 5x the amount he hits me only to see his health move a sliver. Woops turns out I need at least a rank 20 weapon to do any dmg to him despite my superior aim. And since there's no trade I am once again forced to mine boring ore.

I swear its like AV adds features to make you more pissed and does nothing when features are needed. Hey AV how about a decent trading system? Or what about a player policing system? A bounty system? Events that promote PvP?

Originally posted by DarkfallFanatic

I swear its like AV adds features to make you more pissed and does nothing when features are needed. Hey AV how about a decent trading system? Or what about a player policing system? A bounty system? Events that promote PvP?

go take your pills and chill

Originally posted by benseine

Originally posted by DarkfallFanatic

I swear its like AV adds features to make you more pissed and does nothing when features are needed. Hey AV how about a decent trading system? Or what about a player policing system? A bounty system? Events that promote PvP?

go take your pills and chill

Yeah, I'm the one that's mentally unstable for requesting features from incompetent AV. 

You're the retard. I'm a consumer who knows what Im talking about. 

Everyone that is in beta mostly hate it and want DF1 back for lack of sand in sandbox, stripped content, etc. 

Expecting a great game from a team led by Tasos, is like expecting a masterful painting from a talentless painter.

Originally posted by loveForMmos
my point was: TRY IT OUT, you are the only judge

That would mean giving AV some of my money, again. No, thanks.

Yo, they really need to drop the NDA. Most of the stuff you guys complained about has been fixed and the vets got a bunch of videos in their pockets to drop on youtube when the time will come.

AV, too stupid to drop the NDA so we can't tell you how better it's getting. A real beta is obviously bad and exploitable at the start, but gets better after each weeks. You guys are missing out. Difference between DF UW and DF beta" DF was released when it was not even ready. That's why super hybrids existed for example.

I'm super selectif when it comes down to gaming. IF it was not for DF, i would not play any mmorpg's and i play a total of 3 games only and suprisingly, DF UW is one of them. It's in a playable state as we speak.

Only reason not to play currently is to not start all over when game will release. This is why  i don't go balls deep yet in that spiral.

Originally posted by Realbigdeal

Yo, they really need to drop the NDA. Most of the stuff you guys complained about has been fixed and the vets got a bunch of videos in their pockets to drop on youtube when the time will come.

AV, too stupid to drop the NDA so we can't tell you how better it's getting. A real beta is obviously bad and exploitable at the start, but gets better after each weeks. You guys are missing out. Difference between DF UW and DF beta" DF was released when it was not even ready. That's why super hybrids existed for example.

I'm super selectif when it comes down to gaming. IF it was not for DF, i would not play any mmorpg's and i play a total of 3 games only and suprisingly, DF UW is one of them. It's in a playable state as we speak.

Only reason not to play currently is to not start all over when game will release. This is why  i don't go balls deep yet in that spiral.

Tell me you you joking ..right ?  Droping the NDA and hell would break loose all over this place and  hell means negativity and pain over the current state.

They put the NDA for a reason i think..