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  Sharess

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2/06/13 1:33:26 AM#61

Play Archeage when it comes out. 

 

End thread.

  laokoko

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2/06/13 1:48:26 AM#62
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by laokoko

^ ya I mean when you say only thing profitable is sandbox games like EvE, UO, you might want to tell me what other sandbox games you think is doing that well.

And I think UO only had like 200k players or something.  When those themepark game get down from millions to 200k players people start calling them a failure and you call UO a success.

 

Games that sell well initially, like GW2, TERA, SWTOR or TSW sell a million copies. That is $50 million revenue not PROFIT to cover development cost plus ongoing cost of staff, servers and development. Even if they sell more this will barely cover their initial costs.

If a game like UO or FFXI runs for 10 years with an average of 500k players and $15 subscription they make $900 million on subscriptions alone, not counting the multitude of expaninson sales and the original box sales.

That my friend is the difference of success and failure.

You mean UO and FFXI have 500k players now?  And what does FFXI have to do with sandbox.  Lineage have 1 million player too.  Those are classic games.  For those people who dont' like to switch game.  I mean wow have 10 million players too.  You know FFXI probably have that many players because it is more global, since western players have shorter "attention span".  Kind of like lineage, without all those asian players, it probably won't keep going.

 

  Zairu

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Yes, this is a personal attack.

2/06/13 1:53:29 AM#63

to answer the thread title.

 

because you were part of a horrible community that was never satisfied with the games back then, just the same as now. eventually, the companies stopped catering to you because they realized they hated you. instead, they make games for people who play for a couple months and then move on with their life.

i can't really say i blame them.

  laokoko

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2/06/13 1:57:30 AM#64
Originally posted by Zairu

to answer the thread title.

 

because you were part of a horrible community that was never satisfied with the games back then, just the same as now. eventually, the companies stopped catering to you because they realized they hated you. instead, they make games for people who play for a couple months and then move on with their life.

i can't really say i blame them.

That is the reality.  Despise all its flaws and patches, remember it is the players who stopped playing UO, SWG.

People are never satisfied.  Why are people still playing wow or eve or lineage.  I dont' know.  But must be some magic that keeps people from playing that long.

  ignore_me

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2/06/13 10:17:50 AM#65
Originally posted by Zairu

to answer the thread title.

 

because you were part of a horrible community that was never satisfied with the games back then, just the same as now. eventually, the companies stopped catering to you because they realized they hated you. instead, they make games for people who play for a couple months and then move on with their life.

i can't really say i blame them.

Summation: I don't care either way but thought I could throw in a scathing rebuttal to your whining.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  nariusseldon

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2/06/13 11:03:50 AM#66
Originally posted by laokoko
Originally posted by Zairu

to answer the thread title.

 

because you were part of a horrible community that was never satisfied with the games back then, just the same as now. eventually, the companies stopped catering to you because they realized they hated you. instead, they make games for people who play for a couple months and then move on with their life.

i can't really say i blame them.

That is the reality.  Despise all its flaws and patches, remember it is the players who stopped playing UO, SWG.

People are never satisfied.  Why are people still playing wow or eve or lineage.  I dont' know.  But must be some magic that keeps people from playing that long.

The market works. Supply and demand.

  bliss14

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Joined: 4/01/11
Posts: 529

Ahh devil ether.

2/06/13 11:36:24 AM#67
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by laokoko
Originally posted by Zairu

to answer the thread title.

 

because you were part of a horrible community that was never satisfied with the games back then, just the same as now. eventually, the companies stopped catering to you because they realized they hated you. instead, they make games for people who play for a couple months and then move on with their life.

i can't really say i blame them.

That is the reality.  Despise all its flaws and patches, remember it is the players who stopped playing UO, SWG.

People are never satisfied.  Why are people still playing wow or eve or lineage.  I dont' know.  But must be some magic that keeps people from playing that long.

The market works. Supply and demand.

True, the market works.  However I do see alot of demand for sandboxes without the supply.  Eve seems successful but many RPG'ers don't care for a space game (at least I don't).  There is Ultima which is old, Mortal which is generally described as terrible and a few low budget games that have faithful yet small followings.   The next couple of years will illustrate whether or not the demand really exists, I think.  There are some fairly hyped games with sandbox features coming out such as Greed Monger, Pathfinder, ArcheAge, The Repop, Black Desert, Embers of Caerus, Star Citizen, etc. 

Personally I can't wait to see whether the market shifts.  The gamer social entity is kind of fun to watch :P

Regardless of how Greed Monger actually turns out I think their mission statement is the most basic description of what a sandobox is:  Plop everyone down with absolutely nothing except for basic skills and let everyone go.   I think that Kickstarter kind of hurts that since you can basically buy advantages right out of the box but who knows.

  nariusseldon

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2/06/13 11:53:55 AM#68
Originally posted by bliss14
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by laokoko
Originally posted by Zairu

to answer the thread title.

 

because you were part of a horrible community that was never satisfied with the games back then, just the same as now. eventually, the companies stopped catering to you because they realized they hated you. instead, they make games for people who play for a couple months and then move on with their life.

i can't really say i blame them.

That is the reality.  Despise all its flaws and patches, remember it is the players who stopped playing UO, SWG.

People are never satisfied.  Why are people still playing wow or eve or lineage.  I dont' know.  But must be some magic that keeps people from playing that long.

The market works. Supply and demand.

True, the market works.  However I do see alot of demand for sandboxes without the supply.  Eve seems successful but many RPG'ers don't care for a space game (at least I don't).  There is Ultima which is old, Mortal which is generally described as terrible and a few low budget games that have faithful yet small followings.   The next couple of years will illustrate whether or not the demand really exists, I think.  There are some fairly hyped games with sandbox features coming out such as Greed Monger, Pathfinder, ArcheAge, The Repop, Black Desert, Embers of Caerus, Star Citizen, etc. 

Personally I can't wait to see whether the market shifts.  The gamer social entity is kind of fun to watch :P

Regardless of how Greed Monger actually turns out I think their mission statement is the most basic description of what a sandobox is:  Plop everyone down with absolutely nothing except for basic skills and let everyone go.   I think that Kickstarter kind of hurts that since you can basically buy advantages right out of the box but who knows.

where? sandbox was tried in the past (UO, EQ to some extent ... Darkfall ....).

And like you say, there are quite a few sandbox coming out .. the market will adjust based on what happen to them.

The really clear trend is the rise of MOBA.

  bliss14

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Joined: 4/01/11
Posts: 529

Ahh devil ether.

2/06/13 12:31:16 PM#69
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bliss14

The market works. Supply and demand.

True, the market works.  However I do see alot of demand for sandboxes without the supply.  Eve seems successful but many RPG'ers don't care for a space game (at least I don't).  There is Ultima which is old, Mortal which is generally described as terrible and a few low budget games that have faithful yet small followings.   The next couple of years will illustrate whether or not the demand really exists, I think.  There are some fairly hyped games with sandbox features coming out such as Greed Monger, Pathfinder, ArcheAge, The Repop, Black Desert, Embers of Caerus, Star Citizen, etc. 

Personally I can't wait to see whether the market shifts.  The gamer social entity is kind of fun to watch :P

Regardless of how Greed Monger actually turns out I think their mission statement is the most basic description of what a sandobox is:  Plop everyone down with absolutely nothing except for basic skills and let everyone go.   I think that Kickstarter kind of hurts that since you can basically buy advantages right out of the box but who knows.

where? sandbox was tried in the past (UO, EQ to some extent ... Darkfall ....).

And like you say, there are quite a few sandbox coming out .. the market will adjust based on what happen to them.

The really clear trend is the rise of MOBA.

I peruse a few forums and there seems to be a large player base that used to play the games you mentioned but do so no longer.  Not because they are bad games but because they are OLD games ( I didn't even mention DF because that is failing as we speak).  Obviously the vast majority of gamers aren't forum posters but there are alot of silent people that come here and other places that read some of the columns and info and perhaps take away some sort of excitement about games where you build the world, where it's not built already.  I will bet you a kiss under the mistletoe that one or two of those games I mentioned in my previous post become successful games (photo first please).  There is a hole in the market that they will fill.

How successful remains to be seen.  I for one will delve into as many as I can. 

  waynejr2

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2/06/13 12:34:58 PM#70
Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
If they spent the money they invested in making SWTOR into keep on developing and "fixing" SWG pre cu,, it would have been a huge success.

 bleeding subs like pre-cu swg.

  nariusseldon

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2/06/13 12:39:23 PM#71
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
If they spent the money they invested in making SWTOR into keep on developing and "fixing" SWG pre cu,, it would have been a huge success.

 bleeding subs like pre-cu swg.

If .. if .. if .. that is a lot of monday night quarter backing.

I don't anyone here actually develops a successful MMO.

  ignore_me

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2/06/13 3:00:07 PM#72
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
If they spent the money they invested in making SWTOR into keep on developing and "fixing" SWG pre cu,, it would have been a huge success.

 bleeding subs like pre-cu swg.

If .. if .. if .. that is a lot of monday night quarter backing.

I don't anyone here actually develops a successful MMO.

I think his argument is:

a) SWTOR inferior game

b) SWG could have been made into an exceptional game

therefore SWG made into an exceptional game > SWTOR as it came to be.

 

Also Nariusseldon says all non developers must now leave the forums. We'll get right on that.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  nariusseldon

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2/06/13 3:24:00 PM#73
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
If they spent the money they invested in making SWTOR into keep on developing and "fixing" SWG pre cu,, it would have been a huge success.

 bleeding subs like pre-cu swg.

If .. if .. if .. that is a lot of monday night quarter backing.

I don't anyone here actually develops a successful MMO.

I think his argument is:

a) SWTOR inferior game

b) SWG could have been made into an exceptional game

therefore SWG made into an exceptional game > SWTOR as it came to be.

 

Also Nariusseldon says all non developers must now leave the forums. We'll get right on that.

nah i just say that we should treat them as monday quarter backs. Why ask them to leave when they provide entertainment?

 

  ignore_me

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2/06/13 3:32:47 PM#74
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ignore_me
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by LoverNoFighter
If they spent the money they invested in making SWTOR into keep on developing and "fixing" SWG pre cu,, it would have been a huge success.

 bleeding subs like pre-cu swg.

If .. if .. if .. that is a lot of monday night quarter backing.

I don't anyone here actually develops a successful MMO.

I think his argument is:

a) SWTOR inferior game

b) SWG could have been made into an exceptional game

therefore SWG made into an exceptional game > SWTOR as it came to be.

 

Also Nariusseldon says all non developers must now leave the forums. We'll get right on that.

nah i just say that we should treat them as monday quarter backs. Why ask them to leave when they provide entertainment?

 

Well I'm a 3rd world dictator. I don't want to see anyone here telling anyone who is not a fearless leader like me talking about what countries should be like for the people to be happy.

Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  nariusseldon

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2/06/13 3:34:18 PM#75
Originally posted by ignore_me

 

Well I'm a 3rd world dictator. I don't want to see anyone here telling anyone who is not a fearless leader like me talking about what countries should be like for the people to be happy.

Why don't you try to impose your will on others and see what happens? It would be fun!

  ignore_me

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2/06/13 3:39:32 PM#76
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by ignore_me

 

Well I'm a 3rd world dictator. I don't want to see anyone here telling anyone who is not a fearless leader like me talking about what countries should be like for the people to be happy.

Why don't you try to impose your will on others and see what happens? It would be fun!

In all seriousness, if you are a subject matter expert it would serve you better to educate in some way that the reader can absorb rather than try to use the scepter of programming to proclaim lordship.

I don't worship game designers. I play games. If the game sucks I don't care who made it, I'm just unhappy it sucks.

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  Tredo

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2/06/13 3:43:05 PM#77

Great... here we go again, taking this poor gamers complaint and vent to a few people bickering over whos opinion is better than the others.

 

If the OP is still even reading this thread (which by now I doubt due to the fact it has been highjacked and mods here do little to keep OPs thought on track) . A few games that may not show up on your Google search that might be worth a shot.

 

Xsyon

A Tale in the Desert

Will agree with anothers post about Ryzom

There is a SWG EMU out there that is F2P

 

Those might give you something you have been missing, atleast till the next big thing comes along. I would for sure try out Xsyon however, its a great open world true sandbox.

  jtcgs

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2/06/13 3:49:49 PM#78

WoW this, WoW that...

Any company basing its game design on WoWs success deserves its quick trip to F2P. No company has EVER come close to WoW and thus thinking about WoW for your design is ignoring the fact that everyone else FAILED. This alone would push someone that has HALF a brain to think, maybe we need to do something else to have a better chance at success....because if you go up against the best half-assed, you will lose...and the industry has proved that every single time. So, dont even target the WoW crowd....target those that DONT play it or have stopped. THAT should be the target, and there are millions of them. More MMO players DONT play WoW that do play it.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  nariusseldon

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2/06/13 3:58:05 PM#79
Originally posted by Tredo

Great... here we go again, taking this poor gamers complaint and vent to a few people bickering over whos opinion is better than the others.

 


Do you expect otherwise? Ranting is a norm of this place. And at the end of the day, i highly doubt anything said here matter very much.

  MyBoot

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2/06/13 4:01:28 PM#80
God this poor horse is still getting flogged ?

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