I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

I did play it...was meh.

I think you will find though that a lot op people complaining are TES fans.....isn't that odd!

Originally posted by Grunch

I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

 Exactly, well met sir.  I still play DAoC off and on today. 

Originally posted by Maelwydd

I did play it...was meh.

I think you will find though that a lot op people complaining are TES fans.....isn't that odd!

So are most of us that arent compaining

Originally posted by Grunch

I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

you know marc jacobs is working on a new project?

not alot of infos yet, but the 2 trailers... actually say nothing - and make you wanna play it :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gVWNDpv2O90

seems to be a new daoc or sth... just a general guess tho 

(the veil was hinted, 3 factions too and so on)

Originally posted by Grunch

I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

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People do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I've been waiting for an Elder Scrolls game since I first stepped out of the dungeon in Daggerfall. Once I saw what was possible in Morrowind, with the multiple vampire clans, rich history, things to discover, I was hooked. This is going to be the mmo that finally brings multi-player Elder Scrolls to the players.

I suggest people try out early Elder Scrolls games and not just Obvlion or Skyrim to see how incredible they really are."

so, where was "Elder Scrolls" in any of your post?

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Originally posted by Grunch
I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

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If DaoC was so great, Why did it ultimately under preform in the end?

Originally posted by Nitth

 

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Originally posted by Grunch
I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

 

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If DaoC was so great, Why did it ultimately under preform in the end?

I don't consider still being around 10 years later under performing. But hell it's only 10 years. I bet SWTOR and all these other shit titles will make it 10 years too, right?

Originally posted by Nitth

 

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Originally posted by Grunch
I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

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If DaoC was so great, Why did it ultimately under preform in the end?

it came in the ages.

engine was outdated at a certain point imo

and, just assuming since you had to ask.... you didnt play daoc, did ya? :P

Originally posted by Maelwydd

Originally posted by deakon

Originally posted by Maelwydd

I did play it...was meh.

I think you will find though that a lot op people complaining are TES fans.....isn't that odd!

So are most of us that arent compaining

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Sorry if my post came across as hostile I just get fed up of some how being labled as not a tes fan just because i'm looking forward to a tes mmo, hell I even got accused of being empoyed by ZOS the other day just because I'm fine with faction locks.

So let's see...complaining about a game when they didn't play another game=unreasonable.

But overheated claims like "...awesomeness that is about to be unleashed" and "This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force." =measured discourse. I'm indifferent to ESO, but if I was excited, I'd say stop arguing for my side.

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Originally posted by Aeonblades

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Originally posted by Nitth  

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Originally posted by Grunch I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.     I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.  

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  If DaoC was so great, Why did it ultimately under preform in the end?

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I don't consider still being around 10 years later under performing. But hell it's only 10 years. I bet SWTOR and all these other shit titles will make it 10 years too, right?

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How Did it stack up with everquest player numbers? (thats a serious question, I really dont know)

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Originally posted by Thane

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Originally posted by Nitth  

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Originally posted by Grunch I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.     I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

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  If DaoC was so great, Why did it ultimately under preform in the end?

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it came in the ages.

engine was outdated at a certain point imo

 

and, just assuming since you had to ask.... you didnt play daoc, did ya? :P

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Originally posted by deakon

Sorry if my post came across as hostile I just get fed up of some how being labled as not a tes fan just because i'm looking forward to a tes mmo, hell I even got accused of being empoyed by ZOS the other day just because I'm fine with faction locks.

I too am getting sick of things. I post valid reasons why I think faction locking races is a bad idea, give my reasons and state what I think should have been done. This is all hyperbole at the moment but I really get annoyed with the "don'ty like, don't play" brigade. It is childish, evades the point of the discussion and just shows how shallow an argument they have.

I have 1 issue with TESO as I understand it atm. That is locking faction into character creation/race selection. From that stems a lot of problems, some perhaps too much for me to really enjoy yhe game. But I will be damned if I will not keep speaking my mind with hope.

Originally posted by Nitth

 

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Originally posted by Aeonblades

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Originally posted by Nitth  

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Originally posted by Grunch I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.     I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.  

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  If DaoC was so great, Why did it ultimately under preform in the end?

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I don't consider still being around 10 years later under performing. But hell it's only 10 years. I bet SWTOR and all these other shit titles will make it 10 years too, right?

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Never said it died, I said it under preformed. Everyone that talks about it is like "when i was playing DaoC i was having the greatest time" which begs the question if so many people were happy with it, Why did they leave? Why Didnt it go on to become something like blizzard has done?

How Did it stack up with everquest player numbers? (thats a serious question, I really dont know)

 

Fair enough, I'll answer ya. EQ had more players across more servers. I won't deny that, I love both games, but this is true. However during it's hayday for around 5+ years, DAoC had between 200-300k subscribers at any given point, depending on expansion releases, frontier releases, etc. etc. It had plenty of people in game for many years, and only in the last 2-3 has it really seen a drop in population as the controls are clunky and graphics sub par by today's standards. EQ is having the same problem, thus why it is now F2P.

If DAoC went F2P, It would have the same influx EQ is currently experiencing, albeit not quite as many people because it had a smaller player base to begin with as PvP games tend to have less players vs PvE MMO's. EQ had around 500k subscribers during it's prime, but I would say that number is well below 20k now for actual subscribers, a lot of servers are ghost towns, but some are still bustling.

The 1 server DAoC has active atm is actually very busy, just last month I played around with 14 free days and participated in 2 relic raids in a week. Fun is still there, even if both games have a fraction of the players.

Originally posted by Grunch

I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

Well, to me it comes down like a SWTOR with a Elder Scrolls theme.

There is Multiserver and heavy instancing and your client will never see more then 200 players at once on srceen.

 No idea what game they made with PvP and whatnot, but its the core, that isnt attraktive enuff to me.

Then there is this weakspoiling speech from the company "ya we use Hero, but a very special blahmuhblubb ..."

Ya, it looks nice, but ..

I played DAoC briefly. It wasn't my thing because I'm not really into pvp.

I have played every TES game since Daggerfall so what ZeniMax are releasing isn't in my eyes an Elder Scrolls MMO. Not saying it's going to be bad, it could well be awesome for those people that like RvRvR pvp and/or loved DAoC. It's just not the Elder Scrolls MMO I would like to see.

Originally posted by rawfox

Originally posted by Grunch

I notice that the only people complaining have never played DAoC and do not realize the awesomeness that is about to be unleashed in 2013 called ESO. I have been waiting for a DAoC 3 Faction RvR game since the WoW Clone Wars began. This is going to be the MMO that will bring balance back to the force.

 

I suggest people try out DAoC to see how three faction gameplay works. I understand DAoC isn't what it used to be but you will get an idea.

Well, to me it comes down like a SWTOR with a Elder Scrolls theme.

There is Multiserver and heavy instancing and your client will never see more then 200 players at once on srceen.

 No idea what game they made with PvP and whatnot, but its the core, that isnt attraktive enuff to me.

Then there is this weakspoiling speech from the company "ya we use Hero, but a very special blahmuhblubb ..."

 

Ya, it looks nice, but ..

200 players on screen is a lot of players on screen, cant think of many games that can handle that many on screen at once, swtor couldnt handle 50, most games struggle with 100+