Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by ikarrian
its a F2P. i cant remember a single F2P game with a decent community. Ppl tend to stop behave well once they dont have to fear over getting banned, its Very simple.

oh let's see....

LOTRO, STO, GW2 all come to mind. Next statement....

+1 to all 3 of those games for a good community.

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by ikarrian
its a F2P. i cant remember a single F2P game with a decent community. Ppl tend to stop behave well once they dont have to fear over getting banned, its Very simple.

oh let's see....

LOTRO, STO, GW2 all come to mind. Next statement....

I can't speak for LOTRO or STO but you can't put GW2 under the same umbrella since it's B2P.

I've noticed the same trend when a game goes F2P, most recently with TERA. The chat in TERA, at least on the PvP server I tried the other day, was rude, sexual, racist and beyond childish!

It put me off within 30 minutes of creating a character. It's been the same experience with many others that I've tried in the last couple of years.

When you can play a game with impunity because you have nothing to lose and are anonymous to the extent that you didn't even have to provide credit card details or a real name/address, it attracts the most vile sections of the gaming community.

These games more than anything, need real GM's policing the game and chat channels.

Originally posted by jacklo

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by ikarrian
its a F2P. i cant remember a single F2P game with a decent community. Ppl tend to stop behave well once they dont have to fear over getting banned, its Very simple.

oh let's see....

LOTRO, STO, GW2 all come to mind. Next statement....

I can't speak for LOTRO or STO but you can't put GW2 under the same umbrella since it's B2P.

I've noticed the same trend when a game goes F2P, most recently with TERA. The chat in TERA, at least on the PvP server I tried the other day, was rude, sexual, racist and beyond childish!

It put me off within 30 minutes of creating a character. It's been the same experience with many others that I've tried in the last couple of years.

When you can play a game with impunity because you have nothing to lose and are anonymous to the extent that you didn't even have to provide credit card details or a real name/address, it attracts the most vile sections of the gaming community.

These games more than anything, need real GM's policing the game and chat channels.

agreed, GW2 doesn't count - $60 box fee is a barrier to entry that keeps out some of the riff raff 12 year olds (and most are not 12, just act like they are...)

Originally posted by jacklo

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by ikarrian
its a F2P. i cant remember a single F2P game with a decent community. Ppl tend to stop behave well once they dont have to fear over getting banned, its Very simple.

oh let's see....

LOTRO, STO, GW2 all come to mind. Next statement....

I can't speak for LOTRO or STO but you can't put GW2 under the same umbrella since it's B2P.

I've noticed the same trend when a game goes F2P, most recently with TERA. The chat in TERA, at least on the PvP server I tried the other day, was rude, sexual, racist and beyond childish!

It put me off within 30 minutes of creating a character. It's been the same experience with many others that I've tried in the last couple of years.

When you can play a game with impunity because you have nothing to lose and are anonymous to the extent that you didn't even have to provide credit card details or a real name/address, it attracts the most vile sections of the gaming community.

These games more than anything, need real GM's policing the game and chat channels.

It has more to do with the game itself than its pricing model. TERA and many of its Korean peers are marketed by shoving boobs in your face, so they attract the sort of people who like crude sexual stuff. TERA was 4chan: The Game even with a sub, because of the aforementioned boobs and combat being action-focused instead of slow-paced or tactical.

On the other hand, LotRO, STO, DCUO, Anarchy Online and Firefall have more mature content and tend to attract more mature players because of that. You know, people who are really mature instead of liking M-rated things.

Competitiveness is what makes people act like jerks. Even if it's inter-party like FFA loot. It's the reason why low-level PvP communities tend to act worse than PvE communities and why PoE groups may be less friendly than those of other games.

I see your point but there is simple solution to your problem - set rules your self and watch who you party with.

Ignore this 1 sec timer and assume there is FFA loot always. Talk to your party members about it and agree on rules before you start. Since there is no "bind on pick-up" one can always pass item to another with no problem.

All you need to do is talk to each other.

I know it is hard nowadays, some other game made people lazy (no need to talk and agree on loot - game engine takes care) and greedy (by setting $ price tag on unique loot), but it was you who used word "community". And communities don't just appear from nowhere after game goes live. You need to work on it and someday maybe you will notice you are playing a nice game with good community.

On a contrary, if all you need is system enforced rules to do fast loot runs with random people - you do not need a community for this at all.

Originally posted by Scalpless

Originally posted by jacklo

Originally posted by itgrowls

Originally posted by ikarrian
its a F2P. i cant remember a single F2P game with a decent community. Ppl tend to stop behave well once they dont have to fear over getting banned, its Very simple.

oh let's see....

LOTRO, STO, GW2 all come to mind. Next statement....

I can't speak for LOTRO or STO but you can't put GW2 under the same umbrella since it's B2P.

I've noticed the same trend when a game goes F2P, most recently with TERA. The chat in TERA, at least on the PvP server I tried the other day, was rude, sexual, racist and beyond childish!

It put me off within 30 minutes of creating a character. It's been the same experience with many others that I've tried in the last couple of years.

When you can play a game with impunity because you have nothing to lose and are anonymous to the extent that you didn't even have to provide credit card details or a real name/address, it attracts the most vile sections of the gaming community.

These games more than anything, need real GM's policing the game and chat channels.

It has more to do with the game itself than its pricing model. TERA and many of its Korean peers are marketed by shoving boobs in your face, so they attract the sort of people who like crude sexual stuff. TERA was 4chan: The Game even with a sub, because of the aforementioned boobs and combat being action-focused instead of slow-paced or tactical.

On the other hand, LotRO, STO, DCUO, Anarchy Online and Firefall have more mature content and tend to attract more mature players because of that. You know, people who are really mature instead of liking M-rated things.

Competitiveness is what makes people act like jerks. Even if it's inter-party like FFA loot. It's the reason why low-level PvP communities tend to act worse than PvE communities and why PoE groups may be less friendly than those of other games.

I agree to a certain extent that the type of game has some impact, but not when that same game had a totally different community before going F2P.

There was already a thread discussing the community of this game.

Please keep the discussion consolidated to the following thread:  http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/375515/I-am-extremely-upset-with-how-terrible-the-gaming-community-is.html