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1/23/13 4:09:46 PM#21
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1/23/13 5:56:10 PM#22
Originally posted by Arclan Looks like you missed the whole point there, buddy. What you clearly want is a gameplay demo/trailer, not a CGI trailer. Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. -Author unknown, attributed to Mark Twain |
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1/23/13 6:00:08 PM#23
None, CGI trailers are pointless and a waste of money. Not sure why it's still a popular trend in the gaming industry.
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1/23/13 6:00:53 PM#24
Although can't actually jump off a cliff and land on a Lib then shoot the pilot through the coockpit, I think the intense battle scenes of Planetside 2 were captured in their CGI trailer.
/vote Planetside2 Above all else... never ever piss off the penguin. |
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1/23/13 8:09:22 PM#25
Originally posted by trenshodOriginally posted by Phelcher Your young and gullable, so i wont be to harsh, but a commercial is MARKETING. nothing in that blizzard commercial is real... it doesnt show any actual gameplay because that would be boring. So they male a high -production commercial with all cgi graphics to get all the gullable fragile kids panties all wet. The panda misrepresents WoW... nobody cares if the story line is correct. Secondly, the reason u need a kung fu panda commercial is for moms and dads... so their child can tug on their sleeve and say "See.. thats the game i want daddy".. CGI is used when the product doesnt live up...! |
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Loktofeit
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Joined: 1/13/10
EVE in 2013 - DUST 514, CSM8, Fanfest, 10th Anniversary, Uprising, Odyssey. Gonna be a good year :) |
1/23/13 9:01:50 PM#26
Originally posted by Phelcher Not necessarily. CGI is primarily used when a contextual representation can more expeditiously convey the mood or style of the game better than gameplay can.
To give an example, here is the Civ 4 trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuiM7Ycbm-k "Challenge, Build, Expand, Create, Fight..." The viewer now has an idea in 5 or 6 words what the gameplay is like. The images that pass by are of civilizations building up and armies fighting, further putting into the viewers mind what they can do in the game. "What will your civilization stand for?" asks the voiceover as the camera pans up the stairs to the king being crowned. The trailer, through words and visions gets the viewer thinking about what they would do and how they would become king.
The types of gamers that are into sims, god games, SLGs, conquest games all have a tease as to what the game can be. It has them interested in either finding out more or simply in getting the game. This is a message that could never have been as compellingly relayed if done through gameplay if for no other reason than a first time viewer wouldn't have the slightest clue what they are looking at.
filmoret: One thing I have never figured out is why the game devs hardly ever fix simple problems that arise. It is like they don't care about the pvp community. Nitth: What makes you so sure its a simple fix? filmoret: Because most of them are. Sometimes its just changing a number in a code string other times its creating a few variables. However none of them should take over a few hours of coding. |
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1/23/13 9:08:11 PM#27
I would say gw2. The game very much looks like the cgi trailer and the characters can actually do all the things they showed them doing. rule of thumb I generally ignore cgi trailers.
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1/23/13 9:08:40 PM#28
Without a doubt, hands down, no question.... Dark Souls. I'm not sure if there are any purely cinematic trailers, so I'll just throw out the newly released Dark Souls 2 trailer (found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPJaJ5ys_G0). Obviously we can't know for sure because Dark Souls 2 isn't out yet, but there's no doubt this captures the overall feel of the game/gameplay. From the methodical combat, to the feeling of utter despair and hopelessness (the dude dies at least a couple of times in the trailer for goodness sake!), the trailers depict the game perfeclty imo.
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1/23/13 9:10:58 PM#29
I never saw a CGI trailer that I felt represented an MMO accurately. I think they're more for market positioning.
Some of the gameplay trailers are pretty effective, especially for the flashy Asian games.
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1/23/13 9:13:23 PM#30
There are 2 forms of CGI
1) Has cool epic action scene with guys fighting and WHOAA. 2) establishes the enviroment that the game has.
for CGI like number 1 you will not find something at connects well to its CGI, mainly cause it doesnt include health bars. For number 2 however go back and watch TSW's CGI shorts they did to get you to understand what the game feels like. Those were bloody awesome and got you to feel the enviroment that you were stepping into. Because i can. |
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1/23/13 9:24:54 PM#31
have to go with Planetside 2.
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1/24/13 5:38:01 PM#32
A+ exactly. Like voice actors, they are a wasting money on elements that do not improve game play. Playing: Rome Total War, Master of Orion II, Majesty 2, and Telengard. |
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1/24/13 6:15:59 PM#33
Originally posted by Rayshe I am sympathetic to this, although I think that too often it established the environment that players wish the game offered. I have a soft spot for trailers as entertainment. Take something like the WoW Catacysm trailer, that is actually communicating changes made in the world map in an emotional, action-packed way. It's fun, its entertaining. I can't deny that, nor I am going to pretend that I am immune to having my decisions influenced by a glossy trailer. But at the same time, even as I'm entertained, there's a little voice in the back of my head going "wouldn't it be cool to instead play a game that actually had those verbs" |
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kadepsyson
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Joined: 5/15/06
The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that. |
1/24/13 6:20:53 PM#34
I remember one of the CGI WAR trailers. One that had a bunch of the forum people (not sure where they went) saying "WAR is coming!!! The trailer was the one with the orc flying through the air and smacking into a castle wall. It reminded me of the young children's movie George of the Jungle. Where the guy swings on a vine into a tree to make kids giggle all movie over and over. So yeah, that is how I perceived WAR. A game for little kids who liked silly things. El Psy Congroo |
Originally posted by Quirhid I said try not to think too hard. Good grief. |
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1/25/13 2:59:14 AM#36
WoW and WAR
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1/25/13 3:02:04 AM#37
Eve online/Hawken thats the best games cgi that represent fully game and live to the expectations
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1/25/13 3:03:07 AM#38
Originally posted by mindw0rk Not even close haha,if actuall wow was close to the cinematics and graphics they show would be WOW ,but sux |
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1/25/13 3:08:40 AM#39
Originally posted by TickleMeHomo
EVE? You serious? What the trailer shows us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSxSyv4LC1c
What it actually is: |
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1/25/13 3:13:36 AM#40
I like CGI trailers and i don't see them connected to the games they are made for. If i had to vote one which doesn't try to make you believe things that can't even remotely happen (even with "bad" graphics") - It's Rift and Warhammer. They both show more eye candy versions of what you can actually do and will be doing. The spells and attacks are in the game.
Nice CGI trailer and game thought, just not connected. Playing: EVE Online Used to play for 5+ years: Lineage 2, Lord of the Rings Online and Ragnarok Online Utter disappointing MMO experience for 1 - 3 Months: |
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