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  pioneer08

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1/26/13 11:19:15 PM#241
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Hard to believe this thread is still going.  There should be a new phrase "Don't encourage the fanboy"

 

Has anyone come up with a good answer as to how this game was more influential in 2012 than any other MMORPG?

 

You didnt hear gw2 recreated everything everyone ever knew about mmos. And every mmo ever released from this day forward will be know as influenced by gw2.
  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/26/13 11:20:36 PM#242
Originally posted by pioneer08
Originally posted by kadepsyson

Hard to believe this thread is still going.  There should be a new phrase "Don't encourage the fanboy"

 

Has anyone come up with a good answer as to how this game was more influential in 2012 than any other MMORPG?

 

You didnt hear gw2 recreated everything everyone ever knew about mmos. And every mmo ever released from this day forward will be know as influenced by gw2.

No I must have missed that post from Eyelolled.

El Psy Congroo

  Ambros123

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1/26/13 11:21:24 PM#243
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 
  Latronus

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1/26/13 11:23:23 PM#244
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

That was the original GW.

  Aerowyn

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1/26/13 11:24:04 PM#245
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/26/13 11:24:59 PM#246
Originally posted by Latronus
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

That was the original GW.

And the original GW didn't come out in 2012.  ;)

 

I guess for me, for something to be influential, and especially most influential across a wide category of similar things, it should have influenced things.

El Psy Congroo

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/26/13 11:25:46 PM#247
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

Nice... didn't know the TESO devs said they based their designs on GW2 designs.

El Psy Congroo

  Aerowyn

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1/26/13 11:27:59 PM#248
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

Nice... didn't know the TESO devs said they based their designs on GW2 designs.

listen to their dev talk many systems are right from GW2.. which is fine by me hopefully they will improve on them

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  pioneer08

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1/26/13 11:29:03 PM#249
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

 

Ok do you have any idea how long it takes to make these games? All the games you mentioned have been in development for years and i highly doubt they are making changes because of gw2.
  Ambros123

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1/26/13 11:29:45 PM#250
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

Name them for I sure as hell don't see it.   TESO is so different that it's apples and oranges.  Cross profession is bout the only thing mechanic wise that might be infulencial but that's a big maybe as ESO has a completely different implementation of the skill and really is more from TES game themselves..  Wildstar has hardly nothing shown so you cannot say it's been influenced by GW2. 

  Aerowyn

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1/26/13 11:33:37 PM#251
Originally posted by Ambros123
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

Name them for I sure as hell don't see it.   TESO is so different that it's apples and oranges.  Cross profession is bout the only thing mechanic wise that might be infulencial but that's a big maybe as ESO has a completely different implementation of the skill and really is more from TES game themselves..  Wildstar has hardly nothing shown so you cannot say it's been influenced by GW2. 

try watching this one he goes over a couple thing they are using from gw2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zchOStbwZ8k

I'd listen to questing in general

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/26/13 11:34:21 PM#252
Originally posted by pioneer08
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

 

Ok do you have any idea how long it takes to make these games? All the games you mentioned have been in development for years and i highly doubt they are making changes because of gw2.

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

El Psy Congroo

  pioneer08

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1/26/13 11:39:13 PM#253
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by pioneer08
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

 

Ok do you have any idea how long it takes to make these games? All the games you mentioned have been in development for years and i highly doubt they are making changes because of gw2.

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

 

So Turbine had a cash shop before GW2 therefore with their logic GW2 was influenced by Lotro. GW2 has quick travel again wow, lotro, rift, vangaurd, eq, eq2 and more all influenced gw2. I could go on for days with examples.
  Latronus

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1/26/13 11:40:53 PM#254
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by pioneer08
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

 

Ok do you have any idea how long it takes to make these games? All the games you mentioned have been in development for years and i highly doubt they are making changes because of gw2.

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

You know it's all about when the game launches, not when a system was developed.  Case in point, that's why every Themepark to launch in the last 8 years is an EQ2 clone, oh wait... I think I got that wrong.

  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/26/13 11:42:59 PM#255
Originally posted by Latronus
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by pioneer08
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

 

Ok do you have any idea how long it takes to make these games? All the games you mentioned have been in development for years and i highly doubt they are making changes because of gw2.

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

You know it's all about when the game launches, not when a system was developed.  Case in point, that's why every Themepark to launch in the last 8 years is an EQ2 clone, oh wait... I think I got that wrong.

So if a game came out one day later than GW2, but had some similar feature, and had been in development for years prior, you'd say GW2 influenced it?

El Psy Congroo

  jpnz

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1/26/13 11:43:01 PM#256
Originally posted by kadepsyson
 

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

By this logic, wouldn't GW2 be a 'EQ-clone' anyway?

I recall 'quests' being in EQ before, like GW2.

Or maybe its a D&D-Clone?

I think I saw 'classes' in GW2 like D&D.

I know! Its a WoW clone since GW2 uses hotkeys!

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  kadepsyson

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The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/26/13 11:45:19 PM#257
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by kadepsyson
 

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

By this logic, wouldn't GW2 be a 'EQ-clone' anyway?

I recall 'quests' being in EQ before, like GW2.

Or maybe its a D&D-Clone?

I think I saw 'classes' in GW2 like D&D.

I know! Its a WoW clone since GW2 uses hotkeys!

Yep, I can agree that Everquest and World of Warcraft were far more influential than Guild Wars 2.

It is hilarious though that the OP limited this to 2012.  Like, what did GW2 really influence in a few months?  seriously?  lol

 

Edit: gonna hazard a guess that EQ and WoW will be more influential to mmorpgs than GW2 ever will :)

El Psy Congroo

  Latronus

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1/26/13 11:46:15 PM#258
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by kadepsyson
 

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

By this logic, wouldn't GW2 be a 'EQ-clone' anyway?

I recall 'quests' being in EQ before, like GW2.

Or maybe its a D&D-Clone?

I think I saw 'classes' in GW2 like D&D.

I know! Its a WoW clone since GW2 uses hotkeys!

No, there were hotkeys in both EQ and EQ2 and they both were out before WoW so GW2 is still an EQ clone.

  Distopia

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1/26/13 11:48:01 PM#259
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

Name them for I sure as hell don't see it.   TESO is so different that it's apples and oranges.  Cross profession is bout the only thing mechanic wise that might be infulencial but that's a big maybe as ESO has a completely different implementation of the skill and really is more from TES game themselves..  Wildstar has hardly nothing shown so you cannot say it's been influenced by GW2. 

try watching this one he goes over a couple thing they are using from gw2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zchOStbwZ8k

I'd listen to questing in general

Their questing system is an actual questing system though, which seems to focus on phasing as it's chief mechanic behind exploration of course. Seems quite different than Gw2's use of DE's. I'd expect TESO's quests themselves to be more along the line of traditional quests, that aren't lumped together to form the age old "hub".

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1/26/13 11:48:17 PM#260
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Latronus
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by pioneer08
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by Ambros123
So influential that no MMO has copied any of it's game mechanics?  Bout the only influential thing GW2 has is the buisness model which illustrated that B2P is a good and sound buisness model to use. 

just watch videos of TESO, wILDSTAR, OR BLACK DESERT ONLINE if yu are looking for influeces,, TESO ones are good as they actually go over many systems gw2 has in place.

 

Ok do you have any idea how long it takes to make these games? All the games you mentioned have been in development for years and i highly doubt they are making changes because of gw2.

Yeah that's what I was thinking.

Now we'll see people call games already well into development as having been heavily influenced by guild wars 2 because some features sound the same lol

When of course the systems weren't based on any GW2 mechanic or changed because of guild wars 2.  So no influence whatsoever.

You know it's all about when the game launches, not when a system was developed.  Case in point, that's why every Themepark to launch in the last 8 years is an EQ2 clone, oh wait... I think I got that wrong.

So if a game came out one day later than GW2, but had some similar feature, and had been in development for years prior, you'd say GW2 influenced it?

Sarcastic, I was being sarcatic.  It's late and it obviously didn't come thru.  /shrug.  What I get for being tired.

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