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General Discussion  » Just got confirmation they have not yet sold 2500 Ultimate Packs....

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  nariusseldon

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1/23/13 12:00:35 PM#21
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe they do have 26 unique classes, not likely, but not entirely impossible. I accept that possibility. Though you are asking a lot of me for me to assume that even though they didn't take the time to add WASD control, they skimped out on the MMO aspect and went the ARPG route instead, they skimped out on the graphics and from the looks of it combat (Though thats probably a given because of the point and click) yet, I'm expected to believe, with absolutely no reason to believe so, that they took the time to create 26 unique classes lol... 

 

 

Depends on what "class" means. Certainly they have 26 heroes and they have different abilities. The question really is if the abilities are different enough to be considered different classes.

Cyclop probably has a beam type main attack. Iron man probably has a beam type main attack. Are they going to play the same? Or very different? (For example, cyclop can be a "tanky" kind of char, and he stands and beam, but iron man has to rely on flying to open range and dodge) .. it really depends on the combat mechanics design.

It is hard to say now. I will reserve judgment until i play the game.

  Arcona

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1/23/13 1:53:04 PM#22
Originally posted by GrayGhost79                                                                                                                                    

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200


I think you should compare with League of Legends.

How much to buy 16 champions and 32 skins in League of legends?

 

  OgreRaper

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1/23/13 1:55:07 PM#23
I would NEVER invest $200 in a game I've never played.
  Arcona

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1/23/13 1:58:30 PM#24
Originally posted by OgreRaper
I would NEVER invest $200 in a game I've never played.

You can play it for free, and then buy a pack with a hero you want if you cant wait to unlock it by playing.  Just like League of Legends

  steamtank

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1/23/13 2:00:44 PM#25

I would not be happy if I was a $200 customer. Games that make these cash grabs are FINALLY starting to piss off enough customers to not make their quarterly requirements.

I cant wait until game companies get bit hard enough to go back to actual FAIR price points for product.

 

Buy the game so you can FIND what it contains.

Dont buy the game so you can buy what it is supposed to contain.

  Arcona

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1/23/13 2:03:08 PM#26

I think I spend about 500$ on League of legends in the last 4 years.

It's about $3000 to own everything in League of Legends.

Marvel Heroes let you find costumes as drops, so you can unlock everything for free, unlike other games

  Yizle

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1/23/13 3:31:39 PM#27
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
 

Generally people have an issue with this kind of thing because if some out there actually pay this absurd amount of money for what equates to a $60 game then it gives the impression that its ok. 

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200

Next ARPG - $400 lol... 

Thankfully it seems most people have common sense since they have yet to sell 2500 ultimate packs. If they don't reach their goal we may even get lucky and it will snap them back to reality. 

Actually D3 is free if you sell enough on the RMAH. It is actually more than free for me.

Big if

  nariusseldon

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1/23/13 4:12:48 PM#28
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
 

Generally people have an issue with this kind of thing because if some out there actually pay this absurd amount of money for what equates to a $60 game then it gives the impression that its ok. 

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200

Next ARPG - $400 lol... 

Thankfully it seems most people have common sense since they have yet to sell 2500 ultimate packs. If they don't reach their goal we may even get lucky and it will snap them back to reality. 

Actually D3 is free if you sell enough on the RMAH. It is actually more than free for me.

Big if

Not that big .. i made may be $200 on it already .. bought MOP with it. Pump most back into the game, and i still have like $45 left.

The best item i have sold is a witching hour at like $49 ... and that is by no means the highest. The cheaper items (like the $10 legendary) is not that rare if you play regularly. I only have like 500 hours on my main, and that is no where close to what some people put into the game.

You do need to farm somewhat efficiently though. Spending a lot of hours in MP0  with no MF won't make any money for sure.

 

  GrayGhost79

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1/23/13 4:26:25 PM#29
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79                                                                                                                                    

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200


I think you should compare with League of Legends.

How much to buy 16 champions and 32 skins in League of legends?

 

I would if it were a MOBA, however it is not. 

 

It is an ARPG trying to claim the title of MMORPG so those are the ones I will compare it to.

 

 

  birdycephon

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1/23/13 4:52:00 PM#30
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79                                                                                                                                    

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200


I think you should compare with League of Legends.

How much to buy 16 champions and 32 skins in League of legends?

 

I would if it were a MOBA, however it is not. 

 

It is an ARPG trying to claim the title of MMORPG so those are the ones I will compare it to.

 

 

There are wispers of a rumor of a MOBA-style BG in MH.

  GrayGhost79

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1/23/13 6:09:07 PM#31
Originally posted by birdycephon
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79                                                                                                                                    

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200


I think you should compare with League of Legends.

How much to buy 16 champions and 32 skins in League of legends?

 

I would if it were a MOBA, however it is not. 

 

It is an ARPG trying to claim the title of MMORPG so those are the ones I will compare it to.

 

 

There are wispers of a rumor of a MOBA-style BG in MH.

I haven't heard of any, the only MOBA news I've heard for Marvel is that Disney signed a contract with a Korean developer to make a Marvel Universe MOBA thats supposed to launch is 2014. 

But in any case a single MOBA style BG does not make it a MOBA. 

From whats been seen and said without the need of whispers and rumors we know its an ARPG that they are calling an MMO so... 

  Arcona

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1/24/13 11:48:46 AM#32
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79                                                                                                                                    

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200


I think you should compare with League of Legends.

How much to buy 16 champions and 32 skins in League of legends?

I would if it were a MOBA, however it is not. 

 It is an ARPG trying to claim the title of MMORPG so those are the ones I will compare it to.

It uses the League of Legends business model.

We are talking about the business model.

Even though you can unlock skins/costumes in MH by playing.

I would never put down $200 before I had played it though, so I hope to get into beta :)

There was one time I preordered a collecter's edition that cost almost as much though.

  Arcona

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1/24/13 11:54:44 AM#33
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

But in any case a single MOBA style BG does not make it a MOBA. 

From whats been seen and said without the need of whispers and rumors we know its an ARPG that they are calling an MMO so... 

A single MOBA style BG could make it a MOBA.

The MMO part is true, since 50 players can play in the same area.

 

  GrayGhost79

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1/24/13 12:04:55 PM#34
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79                                                                                                                                    

Diablo 3 - $60

Marvel Heroes - $200


I think you should compare with League of Legends.

How much to buy 16 champions and 32 skins in League of legends?

I would if it were a MOBA, however it is not. 

 It is an ARPG trying to claim the title of MMORPG so those are the ones I will compare it to.

It uses the League of Legends business model.

We are talking about the business model.

Even though you can unlock skins/costumes in MH by playing.

I would never put down $200 before I had played it though, so I hope to get into beta :)

There was one time I preordered a collecter's edition that cost almost as much though.

Yep, but I'm not criticizing the business model itself. LoL's business model works and isn't really frowned upon due to the style of the game. It works for it. I and others are criticizing the use of a MOBA's business model for an ARPG. If it were a MOBA I'd have no qualms with making the comparison. It doesn't offer the same type of game play though, so discussing simply the business model for MOBA's doesn't fly. Its an ARPG, calling itself an MMO, pricing itself like a MOBA... 

 

And yes, you are going to be able to unlock skins and costumes in game. The problem comes into play with the pricing of characters and etc. You have to make spending that $20+ worth it. The price of a single character is a bit worrisome because of how these things typically work. The harder (More time consuming) something is to get in game, the more it costs to buy it outright. An Epic Flying mount took forever to get in WoW (Prior to recent changes) yet you could outright buy one for $25. 

The cost is relative to the difficulty (Time requirement) to insure players buy. 

 

  Arcona

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1/24/13 12:13:42 PM#35
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

 I and others are criticizing the use of a MOBA's business model for an ARPG. If it were a MOBA I'd have no qualms with making the comparison. It doesn't offer the same type of game play though, so discussing simply the business model for MOBA's doesn't fly. Its an ARPG, calling itself an MMO, pricing itself like a MOBA... 

Other ARPG dont use the same costume/skin model. They have armor that changes appearence and gives stats.

Marvel Heroes costumes are only visual, you find costumes as drops, and you find other item drops that boost stats at the same time.

You can change custome and keep the same stats.

This is why they can use the League of Legends business model.

  Arcona

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1/24/13 12:15:15 PM#36
I really hope they make us able to play as the vilians and make a MOBA/DOTA style battleground :)

  nariusseldon

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1/24/13 1:39:15 PM#37
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

But in any case a single MOBA style BG does not make it a MOBA. 

From whats been seen and said without the need of whispers and rumors we know its an ARPG that they are calling an MMO so... 

A single MOBA style BG could make it a MOBA.

The MMO part is true, since 50 players can play in the same area.

 

uh 50 players in the same area makes it a MMO? So BF3 is a MMO?

  nariusseldon

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1/24/13 1:42:38 PM#38
Originally posted by GrayGhost79

From whats been seen and said without the need of whispers and rumors we know its an ARPG that they are calling an MMO so... 

Actually, what they said is "Marvel Heroes combines the core game-play style of Action RPGs and MMOs" .. so at best you can say they claim MH as a hybrid of action RPG and MMO. In fact, they put action RPG FIRST.

 

  nariusseldon

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1/24/13 1:45:14 PM#39
Originally posted by GrayGhost79
 

Yep, but I'm not criticizing the business model itself. LoL's business model works and isn't really frowned upon due to the style of the game. It works for it. I and others are criticizing the use of a MOBA's business model for an ARPG. If it were a MOBA I'd have no qualms with making the comparison. It doesn't offer the same type of game play though, so discussing simply the business model for MOBA's doesn't fly. Its an ARPG, calling itself an MMO, pricing itself like a MOBA... 


 

What is the problem? Why can't a ARPG use a MOBA business model? It is not like business models are restricted to single genres.

Would you prefer a cash shop P2W model instead?

  3-4thElf

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1/24/13 1:46:59 PM#40
For a F2P arena game I found the prices to be a bit out of touch with the games they'll be competing with in the market. I mean I know the Marvel brand carries some weight, but the prepurchase prices for a beta that a lot of players will probably get to see for free also? I'm in the wrong business. Bottled water and pay to play betas.

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