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  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 1:21:21 AM#1

Hello community, my name is Andrew (posting on my friends account) and I am an avid gamer. I'll just cut to the chase. I'd really like to start streaming but theres a few problems. Pretty much, when ever I run Xsplit and try to stream League of Legends, my fps drops reaalllllyyyy low. 

I'd like to know what computer specs I need to be able to stream at 60 fps while playing League of legends.  Whenever I start streaming, I see a huge drop in my Fps. I'm not looking to do a completely huge upgrade. Maybe just a few upgrades and like $100-300 total spending if possible. I'd just like to be able to stream efficiently. 

Anyways, here's my current specs. If you can, let me know what I need to upgrade to be able to stream and play my game at 60 fps. Thanks!

 

 

Processor: AMD A6-3600 APU Quad Core with Radeon HD Graphics , 2.1 Ghz

Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6530D

RAM: 6GB

Internet Speed: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2450580017.png   It's Verizon Fios. Never lags. My internet has never given me problems. If there's anything else you guys need to know before helping, just let me know! Thanks so much for your time.

  jdnewell

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1/20/13 9:31:28 AM#2

You dont have a " graphics card" , your using integrated graphics off the cpu ( APU ).

Is this a laptop or a desktop? If its a laptop then your stuck. With the 6gb RAM it looks like a misconfigured laptop.

If its a desktop you may can add a dedicated graphics card, will depend on the other components in your system tho, they may or may not be able to handle a dedicated GPU.

To get a real answer your gonna need to post whats in the system specifically.

Power Supply 600w wont do it. Need the brands such as  Seasonic G 550w  for example.

Whats the montherboard?

  Quizzical

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1/20/13 12:26:42 PM#3
Originally posted by jdnewell

You dont have a " graphics card" , your using integrated graphics off the cpu ( APU ).

Is this a laptop or a desktop? If its a laptop then your stuck. With the 6gb RAM it looks like a misconfigured laptop.

If its a desktop you may can add a dedicated graphics card, will depend on the other components in your system tho, they may or may not be able to handle a dedicated GPU.

To get a real answer your gonna need to post whats in the system specifically.

Power Supply 600w wont do it. Need the brands such as  Seasonic G 550w  for example.

Whats the montherboard?

6530D is a desktop.  Basically, D = desktop.

But that's an awfully slow processor, as you got a low clocked alternate version of an already slow processor.  I don't know if streaming a game depends mostly on the CPU or GPU.

 

  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 2:26:24 PM#4

Alright, here is a more detailed description of what I got. By the way, I only have a 300W Power Supply and it says.......Bestec for the brand. I bought this Pc at BestBuy so I didn't expect much of it.  Anyway, here it is.

Processor: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8292/screenie270.png

Motherboard: http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8458/screenie271.png

Memory: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9343/screenie272.png

 

Currently with that setup, I can actually play League of Legends at 60+ Fps and it will never drop at close to max settings as well. My goal is to be able to do that same gameplay and also stream. I don't want to go over the top with my upgrade, I just want to know what I would absolutely need to be able to stream and hold 60 Fps. I don't need 5 i7's with a quad monitor setup or anything like that haha. Just a budget upgrade, or if anything, a budget gaming computer cost if my current setup just can't run it.

 

P.s. Yes, this is a desktop.

  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 2:30:58 PM#5
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by jdnewell

You dont have a " graphics card" , your using integrated graphics off the cpu ( APU ).

Is this a laptop or a desktop? If its a laptop then your stuck. With the 6gb RAM it looks like a misconfigured laptop.

If its a desktop you may can add a dedicated graphics card, will depend on the other components in your system tho, they may or may not be able to handle a dedicated GPU.

To get a real answer your gonna need to post whats in the system specifically.

Power Supply 600w wont do it. Need the brands such as  Seasonic G 550w  for example.

Whats the montherboard?

6530D is a desktop.  Basically, D = desktop.

But that's an awfully slow processor, as you got a low clocked alternate version of an already slow processor.  I don't know if streaming a game depends mostly on the CPU or GPU.

 

 

Alright, here is a more detailed description of what I got. By the way, I only have a 300W Power Supply and it says.......Bestec for the brand. I bought this Pc at BestBuy so I didn't expect much of it.  Anyway, here it is.

Processor: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8292/screenie270.png

Motherboard: http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8458/screenie271.png

Memory: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9343/screenie272.png

Currently with that setup, I can actually play League of Legends at 60+ Fps and it will never drop at close to max settings as well. My goal is to be able to do that same gameplay and also stream. I don't want to go over the top with my upgrade, I just want to know what I would absolutely need to be able to stream and hold 60 Fps. I don't need 5 i7's with a quad monitor setup or anything like that haha. Just a budget upgrade, or if anything, a budget gaming computer cost if my current setup just can't run it.

P.s. Yes, this is a desktop.

  Vrika

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Posts: 1966

1/20/13 2:38:35 PM#6

This is a little old post, and about SC2, but perhaps you should read it: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220584

  AvsRock21

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Joined: 7/26/10
Posts: 262

1/20/13 2:46:11 PM#7

First tip, do not use a CPU that doubles as the GPU. Integrated graphics always suck. Second tip, do not use Xsplit since it is a terrible piece of software and a system hog. Specially on weaker systems. Instead, use Open Broadcaster Software or OBS. It's free, open source, and very lightweight. It runs very fast compared to Xsplit.

 

http://obsproject.com/

  cartermatic

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Joined: 5/26/12
Posts: 53

 
OP  1/20/13 2:55:08 PM#8
Originally posted by AvsRock21

First tip, do not use a CPU that doubles as the GPU. Integrated graphics always suck. Second tip, do not use Xsplit since it is a terrible piece of software and a system hog. Specially on weaker systems. Instead, use Open Broadcaster Software or OBS. It's free, open source, and very lightweight. It runs very fast compared to Xsplit.

 

http://obsproject.com/

So pretty much It's not even worth upgrading my computer? Am I just better off going for a budget gaming cpu instead?

  Quizzical

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1/20/13 3:18:26 PM#9
Originally posted by cartermatic

Alright, here is a more detailed description of what I got. By the way, I only have a 300W Power Supply and it says.......Bestec for the brand. I bought this Pc at BestBuy so I didn't expect much of it.  Anyway, here it is.

Processor: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8292/screenie270.png

Motherboard: http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8458/screenie271.png

Memory: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9343/screenie272.png

 

Currently with that setup, I can actually play League of Legends at 60+ Fps and it will never drop at close to max settings as well. My goal is to be able to do that same gameplay and also stream. I don't want to go over the top with my upgrade, I just want to know what I would absolutely need to be able to stream and hold 60 Fps. I don't need 5 i7's with a quad monitor setup or anything like that haha. Just a budget upgrade, or if anything, a budget gaming computer cost if my current setup just can't run it.

 

P.s. Yes, this is a desktop.

If you want a faster processor, you'd have to replace the processor.  But Socket FM1 can't take any fast processors, so you'd also be looking at a new motherboard.  A new motherboard means a new OS license.

Meanwhile, a faster video card would definitely require a new power supply and likely a new case.  If you just want faster integrated graphics, you also need higher clocked memory.  For a discrete video card, you'd likely be able to keep one of the memory modules that came with your computer, but would need to replace the other to properly match them.

The hard drive would be fine for bulk storage, but if it's a 5400 RPM drive, you don't want to run real programs off of that, so you'd want a new drive anyway.  It might be 5400 RPM or it might be 7200 RPM; even a cheap junk desktop could be either.

The only component from the original computer that you'd almost certainly be able to reuse is the optical drive.  But at most, that's a $20 part.

Never buy a cheap junk computer and try to upgrade it.  If you wanted to "upgrade" your system to a respectable $600 budget gaming computer, you'd likely be looking at around $500 in upgrades.  If you can pick out one or two parts that will give you what you want if you upgrade them and nothing else and the upgrades are cheap, then maybe you go for it.  But otherwise, if you want more performance, you should be looking at replacing your system, not upgrading it.

  cartermatic

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Joined: 5/26/12
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OP  1/20/13 3:42:55 PM#10
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by cartermatic

Alright, here is a more detailed description of what I got. By the way, I only have a 300W Power Supply and it says.......Bestec for the brand. I bought this Pc at BestBuy so I didn't expect much of it.  Anyway, here it is.

Processor: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8292/screenie270.png

Motherboard: http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8458/screenie271.png

Memory: http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9343/screenie272.png

 

Currently with that setup, I can actually play League of Legends at 60+ Fps and it will never drop at close to max settings as well. My goal is to be able to do that same gameplay and also stream. I don't want to go over the top with my upgrade, I just want to know what I would absolutely need to be able to stream and hold 60 Fps. I don't need 5 i7's with a quad monitor setup or anything like that haha. Just a budget upgrade, or if anything, a budget gaming computer cost if my current setup just can't run it.

 

P.s. Yes, this is a desktop.

If you want a faster processor, you'd have to replace the processor.  But Socket FM1 can't take any fast processors, so you'd also be looking at a new motherboard.  A new motherboard means a new OS license.

Meanwhile, a faster video card would definitely require a new power supply and likely a new case.  If you just want faster integrated graphics, you also need higher clocked memory.  For a discrete video card, you'd likely be able to keep one of the memory modules that came with your computer, but would need to replace the other to properly match them.

The hard drive would be fine for bulk storage, but if it's a 5400 RPM drive, you don't want to run real programs off of that, so you'd want a new drive anyway.  It might be 5400 RPM or it might be 7200 RPM; even a cheap junk desktop could be either.

The only component from the original computer that you'd almost certainly be able to reuse is the optical drive.  But at most, that's a $20 part.

Never buy a cheap junk computer and try to upgrade it.  If you wanted to "upgrade" your system to a respectable $600 budget gaming computer, you'd likely be looking at around $500 in upgrades.  If you can pick out one or two parts that will give you what you want if you upgrade them and nothing else and the upgrades are cheap, then maybe you go for it.  But otherwise, if you want more performance, you should be looking at replacing your system, not upgrading it.

Alright, thanks for the honesty. So, this sounds fun, building my own computer. Thats a project in itself for me, AND I would be getting everything I want. So If i wanted to build a budget gaming computer, do you think you can walk me through? I'm pretty much a noob when it comes to the nitty gritty of computers and whats good and whats bad. In reality, how much would a bugdet gaming computer for my needs cost? I really do NOT  need to go over the top and spend 1,500 on a new computer. As stated before, I'd like to run League of legends at 60fps and still be able to stream. That's my goal and I'd like to build a computer around that idea if possible. I've heard you know your stuff about computers and budget cpu setups. So how can I get started? What should I be looking for if I'm on a budget?

  jdnewell

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1/20/13 3:57:31 PM#11

What is your total budget in $ amount?

 

  Snoepie

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1/20/13 4:07:06 PM#12
Originally posted by cartermatic

Hello community, my name is Andrew (posting on my friends account) and I am an avid gamer. I'll just cut to the chase. I'd really like to start streaming but theres a few problems. Pretty much, when ever I run Xsplit and try to stream League of Legends, my fps drops reaalllllyyyy low. 

I'd like to know what computer specs I need to be able to stream at 60 fps while playing League of legends.  Whenever I start streaming, I see a huge drop in my Fps. I'm not looking to do a completely huge upgrade. Maybe just a few upgrades and like $100-300 total spending if possible. I'd just like to be able to stream efficiently. 

Anyways, here's my current specs. If you can, let me know what I need to upgrade to be able to stream at 60 fps. Thanks!

 

 

Processor: AMD A6-3600 APU Quad Core with Radeon HD Graphics , 2.1 Ghz

Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6530D

RAM: 6GB

Internet Speed: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2448972789.png   It's Verizon Fios. Never lags. It may not seem like much, but honestly my internet has never given me problems. 

If there's anything else you guys need to know before helping, just let me know! Thanks so much for your time.

forget it dude with 3mb.. it can be done tho.. but @ shitty quality.. none will watch it..

  User Deleted
1/20/13 4:18:29 PM#13
You might want do more research into what your upload speed needs to be for a decent quality strem before you run off and buy a new computer. I don't know exactly know how fast it needs to be but I do know that the quality of your stream highly depends on your upload speed. If you find that your upload speed is inadequate then you should see what other packages internet service providers in your area offer.  
  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 4:37:20 PM#14
Originally posted by jdnewell

What is your total budget in $ amount?

 

I'd say my total budget is $600. If I NEED to pay an extra $100-200, I will. But I am aiming for $600.

  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 4:38:26 PM#15
Originally posted by fayknaym
You might want do more research into what your upload speed needs to be for a decent quality strem before you run off and buy a new computer. I don't know exactly know how fast it needs to be but I do know that the quality of your stream highly depends on your upload speed. If you find that your upload speed is inadequate then you should see what other packages internet service providers in your area offer.  

I feel like my internet is no factor, that speed test I have on the first page is with 6 other computers on my internet, all playing League of Legends / Pandora. Idk, Verizon Fios has been good to me. Here's a speedtest from just a few minutes ago: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2450580017.png

  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 4:42:51 PM#16
Originally posted by Snoepie
Originally posted by cartermatic

Hello community, my name is Andrew (posting on my friends account) and I am an avid gamer. I'll just cut to the chase. I'd really like to start streaming but theres a few problems. Pretty much, when ever I run Xsplit and try to stream League of Legends, my fps drops reaalllllyyyy low. 

I'd like to know what computer specs I need to be able to stream at 60 fps while playing League of legends.  Whenever I start streaming, I see a huge drop in my Fps. I'm not looking to do a completely huge upgrade. Maybe just a few upgrades and like $100-300 total spending if possible. I'd just like to be able to stream efficiently. 

Anyways, here's my current specs. If you can, let me know what I need to upgrade to be able to stream at 60 fps. Thanks!

 

 

Processor: AMD A6-3600 APU Quad Core with Radeon HD Graphics , 2.1 Ghz

Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6530D

RAM: 6GB

Internet Speed: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2448972789.png   It's Verizon Fios. Never lags. It may not seem like much, but honestly my internet has never given me problems. 

If there's anything else you guys need to know before helping, just let me know! Thanks so much for your time.

forget it dude with 3mb.. it can be done tho.. but @ shitty quality.. none will watch it..

I feel like my internet is no factor, that speed test I have on the first page is with 6 other computers on my internet, all playing League of Legends / Pandora. Idk, Verizon Fios has been good to me.

Here is a speed test just now with just me and my friend on the internet. As you can see, it is higher. Use this as a more accurate test.

 

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2450580017.png

 

  pl3dge

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1/20/13 4:49:20 PM#17
Why stream at 60fps? there is no need. Drop it down to 25-30 and you should be fine.

  cartermatic

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OP  1/20/13 4:50:47 PM#18
Originally posted by pl3dge
Why stream at 60fps? there is no need. Drop it down to 25-30 and you should be fine.

Sorry if I was unclear. What I mean by 60fps is, I want my game to run at 60fps or better. Not the stream. That's my goal.

  pl3dge

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1/20/13 4:55:41 PM#19
Originally posted by cartermatic
Originally posted by pl3dge
Why stream at 60fps? there is no need. Drop it down to 25-30 and you should be fine.

Sorry if I was unclear. What I mean by 60fps is, I want my game to run at 60fps or better. Not the stream. That's my goal.

Fair enough, It will be a CPU issue then, streaming is very CPU demanding

  Ichmen

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1/20/13 5:10:32 PM#20

from the few times i streamed my games (JC2 and minecraft type games) its very dependent on cpu and gpu. you will need a really strong system to run at high end graphics too if the game it self is on/near max settings for newer games. as the streaming software typically will drain more overall resources then just the game would.

 

so ya upgrade your CPU and get a decent gpu with enough ram to support both might help you with your fps dropage. might also want to tweak your streaming setup. if its running HD 1080p you might have to downgrade that to hd 720p or lower or drop hd and hope for the best if the system cant handle the drain.

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