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  Karteli

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Posts: 2704

1/17/13 4:12:24 AM#221
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli 

Where I live, when someone says you have no idea what you are talking about, there is no need to mention specifics.  It is inclusive. <red> both times above.

 

Where i live we actually stay to the discussion and dont make strawmen to divert attention for you being awfully wrong about GW2 server number, something that every player goes through when first starting the game. Which you obviously didnt do, you just missinformed yourself somewhere that GW2 has 10 servers.


Whatever you say, it has massive servers, like SWTOR used to .  Or it has 15 or 20 servers ..it was small. So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

 

The server count is small, from what I saw.

 

Each server is dead, from what I saw.

 

My observation.  Good day.

 

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  waynejr2

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Joined: 4/12/11
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RIP City of Heroes!

1/17/13 4:18:53 AM#222
Originally posted by Warband
Guild Wars 2 has sold over 3 million copies since its August, according to an update on the MMO’s website from director Colin Johanson, who also outlined the team’s 2013 plans for the title starting with expanding and leveraging the achievement system.
 
 
So now that the game has sold 3 million, what are peoples opinions on it's relative success or dissapointments in comparison to recent themepark mmo's and people, still playing there views on the state of the game.

 Well, it's only 3million.  In a pre-wow universe it would be amazing.  In a post-wow universe, well, not so much.

  User Deleted
1/17/13 4:21:03 AM#223
Originally posted by Karteli


Whatever you say, it has massive servers, like SWTOR used to .  Or it has 15 or 20 servers ..it was small. So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

 

The server count is small, from what I saw.

 

Each server is dead, from what I saw.

 

My observation.  Good day.

 

Yes, server count is "whatever i say" lol

Its easy to just log in and count it yourself, one thing that you obviously CANNOT do.

Have a nice day.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2668

1/17/13 4:22:26 AM#224
Originally posted by waynejr2
Originally posted by Warband
Guild Wars 2 has sold over 3 million copies since its August, according to an update on the MMO’s website from director Colin Johanson, who also outlined the team’s 2013 plans for the title starting with expanding and leveraging the achievement system.
 
 
So now that the game has sold 3 million, what are peoples opinions on it's relative success or dissapointments in comparison to recent themepark mmo's and people, still playing there views on the state of the game.

 Well, it's only 3million.  In a pre-wow universe it would be amazing.  In a post-wow universe, well, not so much.

Still no other western MMORPG was able to gather that many in the west.

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, King of Tokyo

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

1/17/13 4:22:36 AM#225
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli


Whatever you say, it has massive servers, like SWTOR used to .  Or it has 15 or 20 servers ..it was small. So nyah nyah .. whatever.  Is that what you wanted?

 

The server count is small, from what I saw.

 

Each server is dead, from what I saw.

 

My observation.  Good day.

 

Yes, server count is "whatever i say" lol

Its easy to just log in and count it yourself, one thing that you obviously CANNOT do.

Have a nice day.

Thanks for explaining that to me, in a way that myself and everyone can understand.  Have a fabulous night.

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2668

1/17/13 4:34:09 AM#226
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

 

My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

 

And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

According to XFire metrics SWTOR has less than half the players.

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, King of Tokyo

  boxsnd

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Joined: 10/04/12
Posts: 448

1/17/13 4:38:13 AM#227
Originally posted by Onomic
Originally posted by boxsnd
Originally posted by Onomic

3 million sales is pretty damn good for any genre on pc.

I stopd playing gw2 after i hit 80, but so far its my favorite mmorpg. Most i quit long befor i hit the cap. Just waiting for an expansion pack now.

I you didn't play an MMO for 2+ years either you didn't like it or it isn't an MMO. Stop lying to yourself.

Thats pretty ignorant. I playd a few mmorpg i liked and i never lasted 1 year in em even. You need to have a certain personality to last that long in any game no matter how much you like em.

So you "liked" a few MMOs and played them for up to 1 year. GW2 you played from level 1 to 80 (which most people would do in less than a month) and it's suddenly your favorite? Stop lying to yourself.

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  Doogiehowser

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Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1954

1/17/13 4:43:10 AM#228
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

 

My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

 

And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

According to XFire metrics SWTOR has less than half the players.

/facepalm

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney

  Gaia_Hunter

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Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2668

1/17/13 4:44:38 AM#229
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

 

My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

 

And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

According to XFire metrics SWTOR has less than half the players.

/facepalm

So the person I quote can talk about xfire but then I cant use xfire to respond to him?

Let me guess.

XFire can be used to:

-> Show that GW2 numbers droped from launch.

XFire can't be used to:

-> say it is #5 game in XFire  behind LoL, COD4 & COD2 and WoW.

-> point that the launch numbers from where GW2 drop were even higher than WoW:MOP launch numbers.

-> point that GW2 has a population in XFire of around 2/3 of XFire WoW population.

-> point that SWTOR has less than half GW2 population on XFire.

Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, King of Tokyo

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

1/17/13 4:54:24 AM#230
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

 

My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

 

And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

According to XFire metrics SWTOR has less than half the players.

/facepalm

So the person I quote can talk about xfire but then I cant use xfire to respond to him?

With all due respect, nobody else brought up Xfire, but you. :-)  Open game boys. :P

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  Torgrim

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Joined: 12/15/05
Posts: 2179

1/17/13 4:57:21 AM#231
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

 

My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

 

And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

 

Ghost town on some servers yes that is always the case with every new MMO that comes a long after a few months running.

Not all the servers are ghost towns, I'm on Far Shiverpeaks EU server and I see people in every zones, some zones there is more people then other but I hardly can call Far Shiverpeaks a ghost town server.

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  Doogiehowser

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Joined: 3/14/12
Posts: 1954

1/17/13 4:58:04 AM#232
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by mikahr
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
No matter what anyone says or who recognized GW2 as a good game, trolls are going to troll. I'm sorry that the game is so successful and has so many supporters, it must really kill you inside.

Does this game really have more supporters than SWTOR?

 

My server is a ghost town.  Granted SWTOR has 20 servers, and GW2 has 10, Whenever I log onto SWTOR I see other people,  in GW2 I could really use a Duke Nukem mirror, so at least I could see myself.

Really? SWTOR has 20 and GW2 10??

SWTOR has 20, yeah. (reduced from 250 last year).

 

And GW2 servers are ghost towns.  It's fine if you want to defend GW2 .. blame it on people in dungeons .. blame it on how everyone is so spread out in the "vast" world.  GW2 is about as populated as SWTOR, from what it seems.  Go a long time without anyone, then see someone 10-30 minutes later.

According to XFire metrics SWTOR has less than half the players.

/facepalm

So the person I quote can talk about xfire but then I cant use xfire to respond to him?

Hmmm no one said anything about XFIRE except for you. You are seeing things again?

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney

  User Deleted
1/17/13 5:05:11 AM#233
Originally posted by Torgrim

Ghost town on some servers yes that is always the case with every new MMO that comes a long after a few months running.

Not all the servers are ghost towns, I'm on Far Shiverpeaks EU server and I see people in every zones, some zones there is more people then other but I hardly can call Far Shiverpeaks a ghost town server.

Ganadra, which isnt one of most populated has quite a few people in zones i leveled in recently.

But what is great is that pretty much any event there has been 2-5 people involved even if its "escort the mule" one.

OTOH, events like Harathi Hinterland would start with 3-5 people but end with 20+ (done it few times) and thats what i find great about it, people just joining in along the way and battle grew bigger and bigger with each part of the chain. It surely beats any questing ive done in MMO so far.

People can call it bad, or insufficient, but if ANet is determied to work on it and expand it, it surely has lot of room for improvement.

And thats the kind of content i like to call inclusive and what MMOs are about, opposed to dungeons/instances which are exlusive.

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

1/17/13 5:13:10 AM#234
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Alber_gamer

Dunno. Black Ops 2 sold 11M copies in one week. GW2 sold what, 3M in 5 months? Easy to see which of those two games was the successfull one.

 

And before someone says "but Black Ops 2 isn't neither a mmo nor a RPG" - GW2 wasn't even neither the best mmo nor the best RPG of 2012, as the most reputable sites (mmorpg and IGN) have shown and confirmed through their users and expert critics respectively.

No it just won PC game of the year on IGN... I don't like IGN much but I think that's pretty important lol

Who voted in the IGN poll? 

 

Or any Game of the year poll?

 

Ahh .. those people who would vote, and felt stronfly about a game.

 

Lets consider other sources... but also, only those those inclined to vote at IGN will contribute.

 

See the similarity ??

 

GW2 is a non-#1 award as far as I'm concerned.  It might be #1 to you .. but the metrics are off.  Works both ways.

It was #1 on a ton of websites, most notably MMO sites.  The metrics aren't off, just your bias.

Also, um.. the staff voted it PC game of the year.  I don't know who you thought it was.

  Gaia_Hunter

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1/17/13 5:13:45 AM#235
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by evilastro
GW2 was higher than MOP on the PC chart, why would multi format be any different?

What PC chart is that?

 

A PC chart SWTOR ranks higher than GW2, namely the Star Wars chart.

 

It's all about perspective.

 

BOTTOM LINE:  GW2 getting awards is as meaningful as SWTOR getting awards last year.  Hipp Hipp Horrayy!

 

SWTOR got game of the year 2011.  Quite a game.  SWTOR is a perfect game and the measures to judge game qualities are fair and accurate.

Just because you edited this post, 1 hour after you originally posted it, to remove the xfire line, it doesn't mean you didn't bring xfire up.

But between that an not knowing how many servers GW2 has plus your posting history, there isn't much to say about why you post around here.

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1/17/13 5:15:22 AM#236
Well I have had the opposite experience, my server on GW2 - Sea of Sorrow has heaps of players at all levels. My old SWTOR server The Harbinger was dead outside of the fleet. And that Karteli guy did mention Xfire but it's been edited or deleted.
  Eir_S

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1/17/13 5:22:16 AM#237
Just logged off.  I saw people doing things wherever I ported in a lvl 30 zone.  I saw the same amount of people in WoW at this hour.. so forgive me if I'm not seeing the doom and gloom.
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1/17/13 5:25:49 AM#238
Originally posted by dimnikar

 why would Blizzard report a new figure after only 300k sales (2,7-3 mil)? Does that make any sort of sense?

MOP was the first WOW expansion where Blizzard *did not* report day 1 sales

 

for WOW Cata, Blizzard did report a new sales figure - a month after

1/10/11 WORLD OF WARCRAFT®: CATACLYSM ONE-MONTH SALES TOP 4.7 MILLION

12/13/10 WORLD OF WARCRAFT®: CATACLYSM SHATTERS PC-GAME SALES RECORD

 

I hope MOP hit 4 million for 2012 but maybe it didnt

  Camaro68

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1/17/13 11:25:51 AM#239
Originally posted by sadeyx

hmm,  so far its sold exactly half as many copies as diablo3 did on the first day xD,  Which is a pretty good indicator,  leveling alts, item hunting and acheivments in D3 just seems to be far more gratuitous.

Guildwars2 is neither an MMO nor a standalonge RPG resulting in a game that isnt very very good at either.   Great if your a person who is deeply conflicted about these gamyplay styles but not me.   I rather play either a thorough-bred MMO or a thorough-bred RPG.

The only people in my friends list that still play it are just people determined to prove the game is as good as they convinced themselves it would be during the hype.

The reality is, it was fun for a month but now is the time to accept it will never be the wow-killer, will never live up to the hype and look for something else.

 

 

That's the best summation of GW2 I've seen so far.  It lacks the immediate appeal of Diablo while exuding none of the depth of a good MMORPG.

I wonder though when a developer takes a huge financial risk like this if the extra million box sales early on are better than longterm sub revenue.  Are they obligated to maintain the game when player retention isn't necessary?

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1/17/13 11:31:02 AM#240

Really just was not the game for me.

Loved the PvE grind.

WvW was super fun for a few weeks.

Dungeons were the worst design ive ever seen in my life (16 years of mmorpgs)

Art style- mixed emotions.

End game (farming forever with a horrible loot system that keeps you from farming for to long. just silly)

Overall. I give it a 7/10. I will most likely never log in again because i do not feel Anet tests any content for "fun factor".

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