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  GwapoJosh

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1/14/13 10:41:34 PM#121
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
Estimated for a 2014 launch for me and 8k+ woot!!

Me too!!! Can't wait!

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  BlackUhuru

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"When you are confused, you are learning something"

1/14/13 10:44:30 PM#122
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by dontadow
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
@dontadow

Here's a list of D&D game designers working on Pathfinder Online!

Ed Greenwood the creator of D&D Forgotten Realms.

Kieth Baker creator of D&D Eberron Campaign setting.

Frank Mentzer creator of countless D&D adventure paths.

Rich Baker game designer for 3rd Edition D&D, game designer for 4th Edition D&D.

Just to name a few... Can you tell which D&D game designers or creative writers are openly not supporting Pathfinder Online?




 

I write in the industry, so i'm not going to put people out there, but notables would be wolfgang baur, monte cook (the actual designer and 3.5) and skip williams.  And there's a ton more. It's not knocking the game. Sandbox is not dnd.  If you honestly can say that this description is AnY dnd game you've ever played i'll write you a check for my life's savings.  This sucks ,because pathfinder is a great system, and should be reflected, not used as a means to push a fantasy teabagging fest 

Really?  You mean the Wolfgang Bauer whos picture is on the Kickstarter page and designed a level for their SuperDungeon Kickstarter giveaway? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo

Because.. if that's the guy you are talking about.. he sure has a strange way of making a public stance against the game...but I'm sure we should take your secret insider knowledge over what is publicly posted on the damn kickstarter FrontPage right?

 

 

Sandbox is not D&D?  Wow... I can't think of anything more wrong than that.  Well, other than saying that the guy who's picture is on the kickstarter page and is openly not supporting it...

 

 

 

Depends on the DM, but even then, what you do in a tabletop session tends to be limited to the path laid out in the campaign or adventure, and while DMs won't disallow most things, they manipulate the game and encourage enough where sandbox experiences don't happen.   It's just not the way the game is played.  You don't sit around crafting or building houses or pvping each other.

Sure you can...

The Kingmaker Player’s Guide is intended to provide context for creating characters from the nation of Brevoy or surrounding regions who wish to play a role in the Stolen Lands’ transformation. In this campaign, your characters will explore vast wildernesses and settle them, build cities and nations, and even fight wars against opposing kingdoms. Many of these unusual campaign elements are supported by additional rules that appear in other volumes of the Kingmaker Adventure Path—your GM can provide you with the information you need to explore, build, conquer, and war as the need arises in each adventure. As a special preview, some of these elements are presented at the end of this guide so you have all of the blank forms and hex paper you need to track your adventures and achievements in the Stolen Lands.

 

"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  BlackUhuru

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"When you are confused, you are learning something"

1/14/13 11:10:07 PM#123
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by dontadow
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
@dontadow

Here's a list of D&D game designers working on Pathfinder Online!

Ed Greenwood the creator of D&D Forgotten Realms.

Kieth Baker creator of D&D Eberron Campaign setting.

Frank Mentzer creator of countless D&D adventure paths.

Rich Baker game designer for 3rd Edition D&D, game designer for 4th Edition D&D.

Just to name a few... Can you tell which D&D game designers or creative writers are openly not supporting Pathfinder Online?




 

I write in the industry, so i'm not going to put people out there, but notables would be wolfgang baur, monte cook (the actual designer and 3.5) and skip williams.  And there's a ton more. It's not knocking the game. Sandbox is not dnd.  If you honestly can say that this description is AnY dnd game you've ever played i'll write you a check for my life's savings.  This sucks ,because pathfinder is a great system, and should be reflected, not used as a means to push a fantasy teabagging fest 

Really?  You mean the Wolfgang Bauer whos picture is on the Kickstarter page and designed a level for their SuperDungeon Kickstarter giveaway? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo

Because.. if that's the guy you are talking about.. he sure has a strange way of making a public stance against the game...but I'm sure we should take your secret insider knowledge over what is publicly posted on the damn kickstarter FrontPage right?

 

 

Sandbox is not D&D?  Wow... I can't think of anything more wrong than that.  Well, other than saying that the guy who's picture is on the kickstarter page and is openly not supporting it...

Edit to add: Oh yeah i just checked and the company this guy runs (Kobold Press) also donated a book to the CROWDFORGER PDF SUPERPACK for the Kickstarter.   Yup, sounds like he is very outspoken against the game...

 

 

 

 

 

 

And not to beat a dead horse lol... Monte cook you know the one dontadow says is openly against Pathfinder Online also works for Pathfinder lol...

Paizo Publishing®, LLC today announced that Monte Cook, the co-creator of 3rd Edition Dungeons & Dragons and author of the 3.5 PHB and DMG as well as the Ptolus™ campaign setting and the recent Book of Experimental Might™, has joined the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game team as a Rules Consultant

 

"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  Grinnz

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I just ate your cat!

1/15/13 12:46:47 AM#124
lol good luck, I hope the money is worth it!

  thark

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1/15/13 1:31:11 AM#125
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by dontadow
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
@dontadow

Here's a list of D&D game designers working on Pathfinder Online!

Ed Greenwood the creator of D&D Forgotten Realms.

Kieth Baker creator of D&D Eberron Campaign setting.

Frank Mentzer creator of countless D&D adventure paths.

Rich Baker game designer for 3rd Edition D&D, game designer for 4th Edition D&D.

Just to name a few... Can you tell which D&D game designers or creative writers are openly not supporting Pathfinder Online?




 

I write in the industry, so i'm not going to put people out there, but notables would be wolfgang baur, monte cook (the actual designer and 3.5) and skip williams.  And there's a ton more. It's not knocking the game. Sandbox is not dnd.  If you honestly can say that this description is AnY dnd game you've ever played i'll write you a check for my life's savings.  This sucks ,because pathfinder is a great system, and should be reflected, not used as a means to push a fantasy teabagging fest 

Really?  You mean the Wolfgang Bauer whos picture is on the Kickstarter page and designed a level for their SuperDungeon Kickstarter giveaway? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo

Because.. if that's the guy you are talking about.. he sure has a strange way of making a public stance against the game...but I'm sure we should take your secret insider knowledge over what is publicly posted on the damn kickstarter FrontPage right?

 

 

Sandbox is not D&D?  Wow... I can't think of anything more wrong than that.  Well, other than saying that the guy who's picture is on the kickstarter page and is openly not supporting it...

Edit to add: Oh yeah i just checked and the company this guy runs (Kobold Press) also donated a book to the CROWDFORGER PDF SUPERPACK for the Kickstarter.   Yup, sounds like he is very outspoken against the game...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I Agree, Pathfinder is about a small and strategic group of players ,It souds odd to male it "sandbox" Sure most DM's can let the players stray away from it's path and do "other" stuff ea build houses , move the lawn etc etc..but it would quickly become boring.

I guess D & D Online got that right, but on the other hand In that game the quests is played so many times it becomes silly instead..

I think it is a hard nut to crack, only time will tell if this project turns out any good..We will see :)

  User Deleted
1/15/13 1:51:20 AM#126
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by mymmo

So... ppl are moaing about how kickstart project works. Mmorpg.com never seems to suprise. 

 

Who was complaining about it?  I was explaining some things about the site.  You know, informing people about how it works.

 

Is it bad that people should find out more about a funding website?  Or were you just 'moaning' about peoples posts on a forum you frequent?

The information is on kickstarters homepage.  Dont know what your take on their busniess module can contribute. 

  BlackUhuru

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"When you are confused, you are learning something"

1/15/13 1:55:23 AM#127
I understand the Table Top RPG community being concerned about it, I get it all but what I don't get is why they think making a sandbox mmo will have any effect on them.

As you can see with the TT super dungeon " Emerald Spire" it's already benefiting them.

This mmo is being developed a supported by some of the most legendary RPG game designers and creative writers.

A fantasy MMO being designed by legends of the RPG community ( finally) is nothing short of just pure awesomeness!

I think anyone that has an issue with Pathfinder Online should just come out and say it!

" I don't like PvP"

And there is nothing wrong with that, just don't try and spin it any other way.

"It would be awesome if you could duel your companion. Then you could solo pvp".--Thanes

  Requiamer

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1/15/13 3:00:47 AM#128
Nice to see a pnp team making an mmo, can't wait to see what happen. Won't be easy for you guys though, going from analogic to digital is not a peice of cake since they really are wolrds apart, everyone from devs to player will need a lot of patience.
  ET3D

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Posts: 169

1/15/13 3:13:33 AM#129
Congratulations to the Pathfinder Online team. I'll be looking forward to see what they make of this game.
  bbbb42

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1/15/13 4:37:55 AM#130
their designing the game to be EVE without the space and spaceships

  Souldrainer

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1/15/13 6:44:27 AM#131
I, for one, and quite annoyed that they made their funding goal, because I think companies of this size should be banned from using crowd funding, regardless of the interent nobility of their stated goals.

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  Maelwydd

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1/15/13 7:00:36 AM#132
Originally posted by Souldrainer
I, for one, and quite annoyed that they made their funding goal, because I think companies of this size should be banned from using crowd funding, regardless of the interent nobility of their stated goals.

Why should any company be excluded. People are free to invest in whatever they want and anyone is free to put a case forward. If people didn't feel their money invested was worth it they wouldn't do it.

  jdnyc

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1/15/13 7:04:26 AM#133

Pathfinder Online is not DnD.  It's Pathfinder the number one successful RPG TT right now.

The game is set in The River Kingdoms.

The game is based on the Campaign Setting Kingmaker (which is also in The River Kingdoms.)

You can grow and build your own settlements and wage war in Kingmaker the TT RPG.

 

Lisa Stevens has a very deep contact list with many people in the industry.

Lisa Stevens is the CEO of Paizo. 

Paizo is successful, but isn't a mega corp.

Goblin Works is a startup with some investment from Paizo.  Hence the kickstarter.

ryan and the rest all have experience from CCP and other game companies.

 

 

the more you know.

  User Deleted
1/15/13 7:09:09 AM#134
Awesome! Will be keeping an eye on this :)
  adam_nox

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1/15/13 7:15:31 AM#135
Originally posted by jdnyc

Pathfinder Online is not DnD.  It's Pathfinder the number one successful RPG TT right now.

The game is set in The River Kingdoms.

The game is based on the Campaign Setting Kingmaker (which is also in The River Kingdoms.)

You can grow and build your own settlements and wage war in Kingmaker the TT RPG.

 

Lisa Stevens has a very deep contact list with many people in the industry.

Lisa Stevens is the CEO of Paizo. 

Paizo is successful, but isn't a mega corp.

Goblin Works is a startup with some investment from Paizo.  Hence the kickstarter.

ryan and the rest all have experience from CCP and other game companies.

 

 

the more you know.

I won't bother asking who this is even directed towards, but I do keep hearing about all these game connections etc.

 

What I'm curious about, what mmorpg connections do they have, what known and vetted developers of massive online games are working on it, if any?  Since this game is going to be nothing like a tabletop game, and promises mmo features that countless other mmos have and failed at, I think that might be a bit more important.

  jdnyc

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1/15/13 7:29:30 AM#136
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by jdnyc

Pathfinder Online is not DnD.  It's Pathfinder the number one successful RPG TT right now.

The game is set in The River Kingdoms.

The game is based on the Campaign Setting Kingmaker (which is also in The River Kingdoms.)

You can grow and build your own settlements and wage war in Kingmaker the TT RPG.

 

Lisa Stevens has a very deep contact list with many people in the industry.

Lisa Stevens is the CEO of Paizo. 

Paizo is successful, but isn't a mega corp.

Goblin Works is a startup with some investment from Paizo.  Hence the kickstarter.

ryan and the rest all have experience from CCP and other game companies.

 

 

the more you know.

I won't bother asking who this is even directed towards, but I do keep hearing about all these game connections etc.

 

What I'm curious about, what mmorpg connections do they have, what known and vetted developers of massive online games are working on it, if any?  Since this game is going to be nothing like a tabletop game, and promises mmo features that countless other mmos have and failed at, I think that might be a bit more important.

Have you heard of EVE?

  Vesavius

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1/15/13 8:37:13 AM#137
Originally posted by dontadow
Originally posted by BlackUhuru
@dontadow

Here's a list of D&D game designers working on Pathfinder Online!

Ed Greenwood the creator of D&D Forgotten Realms.

Kieth Baker creator of D&D Eberron Campaign setting.

Frank Mentzer creator of countless D&D adventure paths.

Rich Baker game designer for 3rd Edition D&D, game designer for 4th Edition D&D.

Just to name a few... Can you tell which D&D game designers or creative writers are openly not supporting Pathfinder Online?




 

Sandbox is not dnd.

No one wants this game to fail, but we know that if it does its bringing down pathfinder as the game with it, a horrible thing to do considering 5th edition is just around the corner. 

 

 

These two points make me discount your views in general tbh, if I have understood them correctly.

 

D&D/ Pathfinder is *the* greatest sandbox. Someone who 'writes in the industry' saying it isn't worries me... My players, in between when we play and when we actually sit down, create the world and direct their play. My role as a DM is only to facilitate that and set challanges, spinning off plots based solely on my player's actions. Everything they do (or don't do) defines their world and their play experience. Most of the known history of our game world has actually been created from previous campaigns, all of which has been interwoven to create a rich back story that is very personal to the players.

 

Not sandbox? pfft...

 

*IF* PFO 'fails' then I honestly think it will have no impact on the PnP game at all. Many say DDO 'failed' but it had zero impact on D&D, for example. The two are simply not related in real terms. You also say 5e is 'just around the corner' but seem to not get that this game won't (as a realist) be seen until 2016.

 

It obviously will not even be close to the launch of 5e, which will have gone up against the Pathfinder PnP game long before then (a fight I personally believe D&D can no longer win in terms of pure numbers, it has simply lost the 'heart' of many of it's traditional player base now, but we shall see). 

 

 

  Vesavius

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1/15/13 8:40:06 AM#138
Originally posted by Souldrainer
I, for one, and quite annoyed that they made their funding goal, because I think companies of this size should be banned from using crowd funding, regardless of the interent nobility of their stated goals.

 

'Of their size'?

Erm... how big do you think Goblin Works is?

It is an indie developer and is the ideal user of Kickstarter. Being annoyed about someone else's success is not a good thing maybe?

  Rohn

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1/15/13 8:42:41 AM#139
Originally posted by Souldrainer
I, for one, and quite annoyed that they made their funding goal, because I think companies of this size should be banned from using crowd funding, regardless of the interent nobility of their stated goals.

 

Once they had reached a certain amount, there was virtually no chance that it wouldn't succeed.

They have corporate sponsorship, meaning they have money.  They just wanted MORE money - free money at that, with no strings attached.  With the money they already have, they could have paid off the rest of the Kickstarter to get the donated money.  They weren't in jeopardy of losing it.

What's laughable about this campaign of greed?  They were paying money to advertise the Kickstarter.

Shameless greed.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  adam_nox

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1/15/13 8:48:27 AM#140
Originally posted by jdnyc
Originally posted by adam_nox
Originally posted by jdnyc

Pathfinder Online is not DnD.  It's Pathfinder the number one successful RPG TT right now.

The game is set in The River Kingdoms.

The game is based on the Campaign Setting Kingmaker (which is also in The River Kingdoms.)

You can grow and build your own settlements and wage war in Kingmaker the TT RPG.

 

Lisa Stevens has a very deep contact list with many people in the industry.

Lisa Stevens is the CEO of Paizo. 

Paizo is successful, but isn't a mega corp.

Goblin Works is a startup with some investment from Paizo.  Hence the kickstarter.

ryan and the rest all have experience from CCP and other game companies.

 

 

the more you know.

I won't bother asking who this is even directed towards, but I do keep hearing about all these game connections etc.

 

What I'm curious about, what mmorpg connections do they have, what known and vetted developers of massive online games are working on it, if any?  Since this game is going to be nothing like a tabletop game, and promises mmo features that countless other mmos have and failed at, I think that might be a bit more important.

Have you heard of EVE?

Have you heard of Dust lol?  A real answer might work a little better in you favor.  As far as NA goes,  EVE has only a small following,  and having played it for two months,  i happen to think its very overhyped by that following.

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