Originally posted by Cod_Eye

Originally posted by VoreDock

Originally posted by Cod_Eye
If they created quality game in the first place most of these games wouldn't need to go f2p,  most f2p games are just a cash grab.  Milking players because players are to stupid and will pay any amount of money to be ahead, paying out hundreds of bucks for pixels you never will own is something I can never understand, or maybe I'm the stupid one to understand why those players do so.

This is untrue  it's publishers greed driveing F2P and our  bad ecomeny   

 

if you play a  F2P game and dont like it  What have you  Lost  ?

Don't talk drivel, has nothing to do with the economy, players dedicated to a f2p game will spend more money on that game in the cash shop than they would paying subs, whether the cash shop has fluff or p2w items.  I won't entertain any f2p as they never are really f2p, and in a lot of cases rather sub standard in quality.  I'd rather put money towards other luxuries like holidays, beer, and strippers.  Better than looking at a 50 buck pixel don't you agree?

 I agree! Although fishing gear just don't really get it! lol :p

Originally posted by Aroton

What is bad, is switching to f2p when your game has not been designed for it. But honestly, are you going to tell me that LoL is a bad game because its f2p? Absolutely not.

it's a great game. 100%.

but it's not an MMO so it's not relevant.

hell, eve + plex = F2P also, but again it's a vare strong twist to the meaning of 'f2p' so it's also a great game but irrelevant.

Originally posted by Robokapp

Originally posted by Aroton

What is bad, is switching to f2p when your game has not been designed for it. But honestly, are you going to tell me that LoL is a bad game because its f2p? Absolutely not.

it's a great game. 100%.

 

but it's not an MMO so it's not relevant.

 

hell, eve + plex = F2P also, but again it's a vare strong twist to the meaning of 'f2p' so it's also a great game but irrelevant.

This sounds more like you think the implmentation of most f2p games is bad. Which IS valid, but f2p does not automatically make the game bad.

Originally posted by Cod_Eye
If they created quality game in the first place most of these games wouldn't need to go f2p,  most f2p games are just a cash grab.  Milking players because players are to stupid and will pay any amount of money to be ahead, paying out hundreds of bucks for pixels you never will own is something I can never understand, or maybe I'm the stupid one to understand why those players do so.

I agree with this 99.9%... the other .1% goes to "It depends on the type of F2P model" and whether it was designed to draw the "whales", as the greedy bastards peppering the industry put it.  *cough*scumbags*cough*

Personally, if I see "Free To Play" on STEAM, I avoid it like the plague.

Originally posted by VoreDock

 

I am sick of all you people saying free to play is a sell out or a bad

 

Tera , SWTOR , Aion  all for teas games went  F2P for one reason  to  give  sub players more people to play with

 

All had   good numbers but Dev’s can’t justify a games life to publishers on anything less than great numbers

So F2P was added  you can still sub and many do

 

F2P is a good thing after all without it publishers like EA would kill games and even the sub players would be left out

 

Or have we all forgot SWG   (Star Wars Galaxys )

Ive played Eq2 on and off since day one (  and yes I messed up my dragon egg aswell) So I went back a week ago and what did I find...  The best interface Ive ever seen or used and Ive used most of them. Tweeking out an interface  to the extent they perfected blew me away.... Im back playing Eq2.  For a bit.

What Im getting at is Yes I agree with the free to play model but it has its draw backs.  Look at SWTOR. I Beta tested, preorder, Big Starwars fan....  4 months latter borred to death.  Look its free now, wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot stick.   Its a one player game made into an MMO.  Now if you put SWG back online I would pay 15 a month.  Pre CU  20 a month. Wow is so done I beleave they should have moved on in a better direction instead of trying to milk any and all cash out of china with Panda ville. Played Pandoria and loved it...then the same old again.  Most of the free to play models are crap, but to a first time player to an mmo it might be the greatest game they have ever played and will never forget it.  My Ac1 will allways stay in my heart and I still talk about the good times there once in a while with friends like the end of Beta ect...

I beleave its more then just pvp or Leveling ect... for most people , but a place to call home away from home. Now what do we do in our homes? We place stuff we found bought  experienced and given.  Safe place for our Loot we work so hard for and to display it and not shoved into Vault.  All and all its all about the money  and we know this. Not enough scrips to make payrole or bank even with investers, F2P if they can to keep most still working and keep this baby alive.   And no I will never forget what SOE did to SWG. Not just CU, they didnt listen to the players.....at all.                                                                                                               

I have played lots of F2P online games. It starts out as fun in the beginning but for most, I have trouble around the midlevels since even new players who are funded are able to buy boosts and premiere items from the cash shop.

It becomes sad to follow someone 10 levels lower than you just because he has badass armor and can tank while you have to stay with in-game items.

Originally posted by VoreDock

 

I am sick of all you people saying free to play is a sell out or a bad

 

Tera , SWTOR , Aion  all for teas games went  F2P for one reason  to  give  sub players more people to play with

 

All had   good numbers but Dev’s can’t justify a games life to publishers on anything less than great numbers

So F2P was added  you can still sub and many do

 

F2P is a good thing after all without it publishers like EA would kill games and even the sub players would be left out

 

Or have we all forgot SWG   (Star Wars Galaxys )

Old games that go F2P in order to squeeze more money, are almost always trash.

New games built around the F2P concept, with a CS, can be good games. Look at LoL and PS2.

B2P has ALWAYS been around, dont understand why people talk about it like its something new.

Originally posted by VoreDock

 

I am sick of all you people saying free to play is a sell out or a bad

 

Tera , SWTOR , Aion  all for teas games went  F2P for one reason  to  give  sub players more people to play with

 

All had   good numbers but Dev’s can’t justify a games life to publishers on anything less than great numbers

So F2P was added  you can still sub and many do

 

F2P is a good thing after all without it publishers like EA would kill games and even the sub players would be left out

 

Or have we all forgot SWG   (Star Wars Galaxys )

Wrong, free players of SWTOR cannot enjoy the same content that the Sub-Players are playing.(SOUND LOGIC)

Also, in yellow you just contradicted yourself very hard.

You may want to compose your butt-mad before posting, in hopes of ever getting your point across, or even making sense.

Originally posted by Onomas

Its not. . Anyone with a decent job can easily afford a 15/month fee. depends on the country, right now decent work in some countries means u have money just to live yourself. dont forget and the phone / internet fee.

 

Only a handful of games that went F2P did it well enough to actualy feel free. The rest are bottom feeders trying to suck as much money out of us and our kids to keep an already bad game going. true

Going F2P doesnt make the game any better. also true