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  ktanner3

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1/16/13 10:06:14 AM#41
Originally posted by Ecoces

MMORPG.com is the MMO hipster hangout.

 

ewww it doesn't have open world PVP ewww

ewww it doesn't have full loot ewww

ewww it has instances ewww

ewww its not a sandbox ewww

id rather wait for "the Repopulation" or insert some other obscure indie title thats made by 4 guys in their parents basement.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

Currently Playing: Star Wars The Old Republic

  Mardukk

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1/16/13 10:11:46 AM#42
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Ecoces

MMORPG.com is the MMO hipster hangout.

 

ewww it doesn't have open world PVP ewww

ewww it doesn't have full loot ewww

ewww it has instances ewww

ewww its not a sandbox ewww

id rather wait for "the Repopulation" or insert some other obscure indie title thats made by 4 guys in their parents basement.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!

Or maybe people are just tired of buying new MMO's every two - three months due to design faults of the devs.

  Vonatar

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1/16/13 10:16:26 AM#43

I think the reaction to Elder Scrolls Online since it was announced has been largely ranging from "meh" to "WTFOMGSUXXORZ" and not a lot of positivity to counter that.

 

I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan and can admit to being somewhere in between those feelings of negativity. At first I thought Matt Firor was just trying to make DAoC 2 with an Elder Scrolls skin. Then I wondered how an Elder Scrolls game can be made without Todd Howard. Now I just worry that it'll be, at best, a typical mediocre themepark MMO with a shiny surface and no real depth or longevity except perhaps for PVPers.

 

I'll be trying it for sure, but I am not particularly excited about it.

  Yamota

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1/16/13 10:20:20 AM#44
Originally posted by Mischiff

Why does this game seem to be under the radar on this web site?

On tentonhammer.com,. it got voted the most anticipated game for 2013. ive not seen any info  on MMORPG's home page yet.  Maybe i missed it ..  From what ive seen , it looks promising.  Least till Arche Age comes out.

Because it is yet another great IP being forced into the ThemePark mold where as obviously it should not be. A lot of people were expecting Skyrim Online but instead we are getting Elder Scrolls of Warcraft Online.

  ShakyMo

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1/16/13 10:27:23 AM#45
I was excited for it until I heard about that mega server stuff. I really don't like instancing. It's why a get annoyed at the "they're just making daoc with a tes skin" lines. I wish they were. If they were it would be more like tes - player housing, no instancing, huge open world etc..

The other thing that worries me is the "trying to bring the single player experience, so you are the hero" thing. That works in single player games, it doesn't work in mmos. "you are the hero" is stupid when theres 3000 other "one and only saviour of tamriel" running around with you. also it leads to them using phasing which I hate with a Passion in games like swtor.
  User Deleted
1/16/13 10:36:40 AM#46
Originally posted by Mischiff

Why does this game seem to be under the radar on this web site?

On tentonhammer.com,. it got voted the most anticipated game for 2013. ive not seen any info  on MMORPG's home page yet.  Maybe i missed it ..  From what ive seen , it looks promising.  Least till Arche Age comes out.

 Its not. It has had 6 features about it already this year. Definitely not under the radar.

  ShakyMo

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1/16/13 10:54:35 AM#47
When I first heard about it I thought
tes + daoc = win win win

But its looking more like
Tes + daoc + swtor, which frankly don't exite me too much.
  dreamscaper

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1/16/13 10:59:29 AM#48
A: Because I burned out on WoW long ago.

<3

  Maelwydd

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1/16/13 11:00:04 AM#49

It isn't under the radar but it is certainly showing up as hotile. Why? Here are my main points: -

Freedom to choose race, class, skills, home, to join factions/guilds when and if I want?

I have always had the freedom to choose any faction or guild or even a combination (and even all of them) as and when I wanted to. I at no time had to join a faction unless I wanted to do so for the benefits it would provide. At no time was I forced or even expected to choose a side in any conflict unless I wanted to do so.

I could play any race, use any skill, play any ‘class’ (class is an odd one as class was a rough set of skills that were linked to a class but were not restricted to that class. I could play like a Two handed  Berserker and still learn how to sneak and talk to other people) there were just synergistic reasons to choose certain race, skill, class combinations. An Orc Thief/mage was as viable a build as a Khajit one.

Can I eventually save enough money and/or earn enough favour to buy a house and improve it?

Might just be a personal thing (I doubt it though) but one of the big parts of TES games has always been buying a house and living in it, storing stuff in it, decorating it and basically turning it into my characters ‘home’. I would be Maelwydd the Breton of Riften who sells high quality weapons and armour.

Can I explore the entire game world?

With any TES game I would get a map of the game world and go anywhere on the map. Any artificial border was due to the fact the game didn’t exist there, annoying but it is a game so understanding the limitations makes that ok. You would never get to a point where you couldn’t explore someone and kick yourself for not creating a damn Elf because they could explore that mountain over there but a Breton can’t. There might well be places you wouldn’t want to go but you certainly wouldn’t be looking wryly at a mountain in the distance, shown on your map that was blocked simply because you chose the wrong faction.

Can I choose to just live in the world and not fight and still experience the game?

After character creation you could do what you wanted and go where you wanted. Except for the main destiny quest which you would have (but didn’t have to ever do) you were free to play however you wanted. In the recent Skyrim game I have many different builds. One was a Greataxe Nord, another was a stealthy thief Breton, another was a mage who never used melee, ever, and won every fight using summoned creatures and debuffs and sold alchemy potions from town to town.

I don’t want to enter the world and find my “faction is already losing the war, join the fight” or similar…I don’t care. If I join the war and choose a side then I will care. Until then I want to explore the world, find a place I like, work my way to buying a house there and making a living.

This is how I play TES but it doesn’t appear that it is the way I will be able to play TESO…I don't want a PvP centric MMO, I want The Elder Scrolls Online...

 

lol funny thought came to me.

The way they have designed factions and races is sort of like locking up all the Japanese in the US during the 2nd world war simply because of where they were from. Just because someone had a different nationality didn't prevent them from fighting for their home. Are we to assume that we cannot join other factions is because, sticking to the lore, we would all be put into detention camps? Kind of a racist design premise lol

  Sovrath

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1/16/13 11:00:28 AM#50
Originally posted by Mischiff

Why does this game seem to be under the radar on this web site?

On tentonhammer.com,. it got voted the most anticipated game for 2013. ive not seen any info  on MMORPG's home page yet.  Maybe i missed it ..  From what ive seen , it looks promising.  Least till Arche Age comes out.

The game is not under the radar at all. There have been many articles about it.

It's not getting a lot of love here because it seems that there are many people who are not excited on how they designed it.

 

  wildtalent

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1/16/13 11:03:10 AM#51
Me, personally, I have wanted this since Skyrim's release.  Which is why I am terrified of it.  So many IP's are glossed up and presented to us in MMO form and we are happy to get them, until we play them.  I DO NOT want that to happen this time.  I don't want to ride the hype train.  I want to be hit by it, hard,  when it releases AFTER I try it out for myself this time.

  Fearum

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1/16/13 11:08:31 AM#52
This forum is horrible for getting gaming info from other than the Site Articles and videos the forum is a joke. Look at any game forum on here, they are all filled with crap.
  jtcgs

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1/16/13 11:10:06 AM#53
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Mischiff

Why does this game seem to be under the radar on this web site?

On tentonhammer.com,. it got voted the most anticipated game for 2013. ive not seen any info  on MMORPG's home page yet.  Maybe i missed it ..  From what ive seen , it looks promising.  Least till Arche Age comes out.

The game is not under the radar at all. There have been many articles about it.

It's not getting a lot of love here because it seems that there are many people who are not excited on how they designed it.

 

Its not getting a lot of love because its basically just DAoC 2 with a TES skin. That is the reason why so many TES fans hate the idea of this game. TES is more than just names and places...so,much like KOTOR, the series is going to be SWTOR instead of KOTOR 3 with multi-player capabilities like it should have been.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Sovrath

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1/16/13 11:14:33 AM#54
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Mischiff

Why does this game seem to be under the radar on this web site?

On tentonhammer.com,. it got voted the most anticipated game for 2013. ive not seen any info  on MMORPG's home page yet.  Maybe i missed it ..  From what ive seen , it looks promising.  Least till Arche Age comes out.

The game is not under the radar at all. There have been many articles about it.

It's not getting a lot of love here because it seems that there are many people who are not excited on how they designed it.

 

Its not getting a lot of love because its basically just DAoC 2 with a TES skin. That is the reason why so many TES fans hate the idea of this game. TES is more than just names and places...so,much like KOTOR, the series is going to be SWTOR instead of KOTOR 3 with multi-player capabilities like it should have been.

Which falls under the "there are many peopel who are not excited with how they designed it." People can just fill in their beef as you did.

  Nadia

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1/16/13 11:17:17 AM#55
Originally posted by Mischiff

Why does this game seem to be under the radar on this web site?

On tentonhammer.com,. it got voted the most anticipated game for 2013. ive not seen any info  on MMORPG's home page yet.  Maybe i missed it ..  From what ive seen , it looks promising.  Least till Arche Age comes out.

im neutral on the game but it has been in editors picks

 Bill's Games of 2013

  ShakyMo

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1/16/13 11:17:54 AM#56
It's not really daoc 2 though is it.

It has a "you are the hero" storyline
It has instancing
It has phasing
It doesn't have player housing
It doesn't have ffa and coop alternate server rulesets (which incidentally would key you go everywhere and not lock you to factions)
It has an instanced raiding endgame

Just concerned daoc will take a bunch of flack it doesn't deserve if the game turns out shite.

A daoc 2 in a tes skin would be closer to tes than the stuff I've heard about lately.
  jtcgs

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1/16/13 11:39:44 AM#57
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by jtcgs

Its not getting a lot of love because its basically just DAoC 2 with a TES skin. That is the reason why so many TES fans hate the idea of this game. TES is more than just names and places...so,much like KOTOR, the series is going to be SWTOR instead of KOTOR 3 with multi-player capabilities like it should have been.

Which falls under the "there are many peopel who are not excited with how they designed it." People can just fill in their beef as you did.

The OPs replies told me he needs to "see" the reasons, not something uniform. Notices how I didnt say you were wrong, just gave details.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Sovrath

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1/16/13 11:49:11 AM#58
Originally posted by jtcgs
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by jtcgs

Its not getting a lot of love because its basically just DAoC 2 with a TES skin. That is the reason why so many TES fans hate the idea of this game. TES is more than just names and places...so,much like KOTOR, the series is going to be SWTOR instead of KOTOR 3 with multi-player capabilities like it should have been.

Which falls under the "there are many peopel who are not excited with how they designed it." People can just fill in their beef as you did.

The OPs replies told me he needs to "see" the reasons, not something uniform. Notices how I didnt say you were wrong, just gave details.

Well, that's true so I'll give you that. But there are some players who don't mind the 3 sided fight. The DAoC bits. I certainly don't.  I would probably say they more mind being forced into a side rather than giving them the choice to join a side (myself included). Also,  Elder Scrolls players probably mind more that they can't explore the world with one character but need to make multiple characters. Which I also mind MORE than the DAoC bits.

For instance, in skyrim, you can be either the storm cloaks or the Imperial Legion. Two sides. ESO just has an added side so it's not too different where you have factions going against each other.

However, forcing players into a side, though I understand the thempark  mmo reasoning, doesn't really fit into the freedom of an elderscroll game.

hmmmm I'll also add that requiring a person to be in a side might be a huge issue now that I think about it because you don't have to join either side in skyrim.

 

  jtcgs

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1/16/13 12:27:02 PM#59
Originally posted by Sovrath

Well, that's true so I'll give you that. But there are some players who don't mind the 3 sided fight. The DAoC bits. I certainly don't.  I would probably say they more mind being forced into a side rather than giving them the choice to join a side (myself included). Also,  Elder Scrolls players probably mind more that they can't explore the world with one character but need to make multiple characters. Which I also mind MORE than the DAoC bits.

For instance, in skyrim, you can be either the storm cloaks or the Imperial Legion. Two sides. ESO just has an added side so it's not too different where you have factions going against each other.

However, forcing players into a side, though I understand the thempark  mmo reasoning, doesn't really fit into the freedom of an elderscroll game.

hmmmm I'll also add that requiring a person to be in a side might be a huge issue now that I think about it because you don't have to join either side in skyrim.

 

Ahh, but there is the trick. Being forced to pick sides is there because the game IS DaoC 2. If the game was TES, they would be making it so you wouldnt be forced to pick at the start, they would be making it based on TESs openness to capture the popularity of the games.

The game is locked into its current ways because its being made by the DaoC team that wanted to make DaoC 2 and started their project based on that. All the limitations they are placing into this game is based on their past projects, not the IP...and the fact they are using old outdated ideas shows little hope of the game being remotely innovative but instead just another MMO...they could have gone in a new direction, fitting the IP.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  azzamasin

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1/16/13 12:29:43 PM#60
Originally posted by Ecoces

MMORPG.com is the MMO hipster hangout.

 

ewww it doesn't have open world PVP ewww

ewww it doesn't have full loot ewww

ewww it has instances ewww

ewww its not a sandbox ewww

id rather wait for "the Repopulation" or insert some other obscure indie title thats made by 4 guys in their parents basement.

Exactly 100% accurate assessment of these forums.

If your idea of a Sandbox is open FFA Full Loot PvP, full crafted world with minimal support for anything combat then your sandbox ideas are bad! Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!

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