Originally posted by Sevenstar61
There is no reason for not having another MMO with SW IP for different time period. No MMO can satisfy everybody... and I bet if such MMO would come, most of people would play both...

Yes, that is what Lucasarts planned to do with SWG and SWTOR back in 2008 following the announcement of SWTOR

http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/10/25/star-wars-galaxies-looks-to-the-future-with-hoth-bioware/

As far as LucasArts is concerned, SWG and SWTOR can happily co-exist if everything goes as they want it to. Said Neri, "When we launch the game we'll see exactly what will happen. Nobody has a crystal ball. I think the games are clearly different enough that the market can support both of them together." For more details on Galaxies' vitality and capitalizing on movie moments, read into the full article.

That to me sounded like that if things did not go according to plan, then SWG would shut down in 2012 after SWTOR launched and it was succesfull, and SWG became dead.

The servers were dying up until May 2011, but then following the breach and the 45 free days, the populations quadrupled, and SOE were locking down servers to transfers right up until the closure announcement. When the shut down announcement came, populations were still rsing, although people were still on the free time.. Chances are the servers may have died down again after the 45 days, but I think a lot would have subbed, as I doubt many would have sustained playing if they planned to quit, and the population spike would have only lasted a week or two. Considering it was following the security breach where peoples data were compromised, it was quite amazing really as 1) I would have thought people would have just deleted their details and left SOE far behind and 2) None of the previous 30 days free periods had the same effect. It just seemed stupid not to wait a month or something to see what populations would have been like after the end of the 45 days, as they gave a whopping 6 months notice for closure, and 5 months would have been plenty time too.

I think the thing that got to me most about SWGs closure was the way it got shut down - LA went back on their word of running both MMOs at the same time, and it got shut down when it was on the up. If the shut down announcemnt came in April or after the 45 days was up AND servers started to drop right back down again, then it would have been more understandable.

Then something simlar happens with City of Heroes, its shutdown is being questioned as apparently it was still profitable, and makes little sense.

Now SWTOR is in a sad state and EA is claiming that they need 500K subs (or $7.5 million per month) to break even, it does not add confidence in SWTORs future now either, and I do not want to go spending more time and money on a MMO, that gets shut down before I am done with it again - that goes for any MMO not just SWTOR, but SWTOR is not showing much signs of advancement, and stuff that is being put in and coming soon, has been spinning around since June 2012, and no christmas event or any efforts to make the game seem it has a future.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Sevenstar61
There is no reason for not having another MMO with SW IP for different time period. No MMO can satisfy everybody... and I bet if such MMO would come, most of people would play both...

Yes, that is what Lucasarts planned to do with SWG and SWTOR back in 2008 following the announcement of SWTOR

http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/10/25/star-wars-galaxies-looks-to-the-future-with-hoth-bioware/

As far as LucasArts is concerned, SWG and SWTOR can happily co-exist if everything goes as they want it to. Said Neri, "When we launch the game we'll see exactly what will happen. Nobody has a crystal ball. I think the games are clearly different enough that the market can support both of them together." For more details on Galaxies' vitality and capitalizing on movie moments, read into the full article.

That to me sounded like that if things did not go according to plan, then SWG would shut down in 2012 after SWTOR launched and it was succesfull, and SWG became dead.

The servers were dying up until May 2011, but then following the breach and the 45 free days, the populations quadrupled, and SOE were locking down servers to transfers right up until the closure announcement. When the shut down announcement came, populations were still rsing, although people were still on the free time.. Chances are the servers may have died down again after the 45 days, but I think a lot would have subbed, as I doubt many would have sustained playing if they planned to quit, and the population spike would have only lasted a week or two. Considering it was following the security breach where peoples data were compromised, it was quite amazing really as 1) I would have thought people would have just deleted their details and left SOE far behind and 2) None of the previous 30 days free periods had the same effect. It just seemed stupid not to wait a month or something to see what populations would have been like after the end of the 45 days, as they gave a whopping 6 months notice for closure, and 5 months would have been plenty time too.

I think the thing that got to me most about SWGs closure was the way it got shut down - LA went back on their word of running both MMOs at the same time, and it got shut down when it was on the up. If the shut down announcemnt came in April or after the 45 days was up AND servers started to drop right back down again, then it would have been more understandable.

Now SWTOR is in a sad state and EA is claiming that they need 500K subs (or $7.5 million per month) to break even, it does not add confidence in SWTORs future now either, and I do not want to go spending more time and money on a MMO, that gets shut down before I am done with it again - that goes for any MMO not just SWTOR, but SWTOR is not showing much signs of advancement, and stuff that is being put in and coming soon, has been spinning around since June 2012, and no christmas event or any efforts to make the game seem it has a future.

 

The thing is, that there are no even remote plans for any other SW MMO (at least I did not hear about it), and we all know that it takes several years to develop it. I start to think that big budget MMOs era is over... the market is way too unpredictable, and frankly  there is no assurance for any incoming MMO to keep the population for a long time... the market is oversaturated and people get bored pretty fast. I think it's generation issue... people just don't have this sense of commitment as they had before... and it applies to everything... including relationships...

I am glad that I actually enjoy SWTOR, and I hope there will be good stuff coming in years to come, because... let's face it... there is no alternative and there will be no SW MMO in next 5 years at least...

Wait, there are people still acting like SWTOR is doing fine and that nothing is wrong with it? wowzers...

You know, it IS OK to like a game and still admit that there are issues...it IS OK to admit that other players like different types of gameplay and that they actually SHOULD want a game to have it so the game you say you love is liked and played by even MORE people...

it...IS...OK.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Sevenstar61
There is no reason for not having another MMO with SW IP for different time period. No MMO can satisfy everybody... and I bet if such MMO would come, most of people would play both...

Yes, that is what Lucasarts planned to do with SWG and SWTOR back in 2008 following the announcement of SWTOR

http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/10/25/star-wars-galaxies-looks-to-the-future-with-hoth-bioware/

As far as LucasArts is concerned, SWG and SWTOR can happily co-exist if everything goes as they want it to. Said Neri, "When we launch the game we'll see exactly what will happen. Nobody has a crystal ball. I think the games are clearly different enough that the market can support both of them together." For more details on Galaxies' vitality and capitalizing on movie moments, read into the full article.

That to me sounded like that if things did not go according to plan, then SWG would shut down in 2012 after SWTOR launched and it was succesfull, and SWG became dead.

The servers were dying up until May 2011, but then following the breach and the 45 free days, the populations quadrupled, and SOE were locking down servers to transfers right up until the closure announcement. When the shut down announcement came, populations were still rsing, although people were still on the free time.. Chances are the servers may have died down again after the 45 days, but I think a lot would have subbed, as I doubt many would have sustained playing if they planned to quit, and the population spike would have only lasted a week or two. Considering it was following the security breach where peoples data were compromised, it was quite amazing really as 1) I would have thought people would have just deleted their details and left SOE far behind and 2) None of the previous 30 days free periods had the same effect. It just seemed stupid not to wait a month or something to see what populations would have been like after the end of the 45 days, as they gave a whopping 6 months notice for closure, and 5 months would have been plenty time too.

I think the thing that got to me most about SWGs closure was the way it got shut down - LA went back on their word of running both MMOs at the same time, and it got shut down when it was on the up. If the shut down announcemnt came in April or after the 45 days was up AND servers started to drop right back down again, then it would have been more understandable.

Now SWTOR is in a sad state and EA is claiming that they need 500K subs (or $7.5 million per month) to break even, it does not add confidence in SWTORs future now either, and I do not want to go spending more time and money on a MMO, that gets shut down before I am done with it again - that goes for any MMO not just SWTOR, but SWTOR is not showing much signs of advancement, and stuff that is being put in and coming soon, has been spinning around since June 2012, and no christmas event or any efforts to make the game seem it has a future.

 

The thing is, that there are no even remote plans for any other SW MMO (at least I did not hear about it), and we all know that it takes several years to develop it. I start to think that big budget MMOs era is over... the market is way too unpredictable, and frankly  there is no assurance for any incoming MMO to keep the population for a long time... the market is oversaturated and people get bored pretty fast. I think it's generation issue... people just don't have this sense of commitment as they had before... and it applies to everything... including relationships...

I am glad that I actually enjoy SWTOR, and I hope there will be good stuff coming in years to come, because... let's face it... there is no alternative and there will be no SW MMO in next 5 years at least...

 

SWTOR will only be around for years if they can afford the licence renewal, or that EA bought a long term licence, but if the game cost millions to make then they probably skimped on the licence and bought a short term one, with the thought of buying a longer one with the profits, but as they do not seem to be able to break even now, they may not be able to renew the licence. SOE renewed the licence several times, but that is because it did not need $7.5 million per month to break even.

The lack of content / attention that SWTOR is being given is signs that they have a short licence, and that it may not see into 2014. SWG had plenty stuff added to it over the 8.5 years, and even playing it solidly all that time, I still did not do everything it offered when it shut down. I have played most of what SWTOR has to offer, within only months, and now it is just playing through some of the same content over and over again.

SWTOR could have been so much more, but has just keeled over. If it had millions of players, the founders would still be at Bioware reaping the rewards, Makeb would have been in now, plus a tonne more content, and a decent expansion being released that cost $60 or something.

Originally posted by superniceguy

 

SWTOR will only be around for years if they can afford the licence renewal, or that EA bought a long term licence, but if the game cost millions to make then they probably skimped on the licence and bought a short term one, with the thought of buying a longer one with the profits, but as they do not seem to be able to break even now, they may not be able to renew the licence. SOE renewed the licence several times, but that is because it did not need $7.5 million per month to break even.

The lack of content / attention that SWTOR is being given is signs that they have a short licence, and that it may not see into 2014. SWG had plenty stuff added to it over the 8.5 years, and even playing it solidly all that time, I still did not do everything it offered when it shut down. I have played most of what SWTOR has to offer, within only months, and now it is just playing through some of the same content over and over again.

SWTOR could have been so much more, but has just keeled over. If it had millions of players, the founders would still be at Bioware reaping the rewards, Makeb would have been in now, plus a tonne more content, and a decent expansion being released that cost $60 or something.

How much content SWG had added in the first year? Everything you say is just your opinion and your wishing....

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

SWTOR will only be around for years if they can afford the licence renewal, or that EA bought a long term licence, but if the game cost millions to make then they probably skimped on the licence and bought a short term one, with the thought of buying a longer one with the profits, but as they do not seem to be able to break even now, they may not be able to renew the licence. SOE renewed the licence several times, but that is because it did not need $7.5 million per month to break even.

The lack of content / attention that SWTOR is being given is signs that they have a short licence, and that it may not see into 2014. SWG had plenty stuff added to it over the 8.5 years, and even playing it solidly all that time, I still did not do everything it offered when it shut down. I have played most of what SWTOR has to offer, within only months, and now it is just playing through some of the same content over and over again.

SWTOR could have been so much more, but has just keeled over. If it had millions of players, the founders would still be at Bioware reaping the rewards, Makeb would have been in now, plus a tonne more content, and a decent expansion being released that cost $60 or something.

 

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It may be dead to him, only 20 servers left, and not just dead in terms of population but in other terms.

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by superniceguy

 

SWTOR will only be around for years if they can afford the licence renewal, or that EA bought a long term licence, but if the game cost millions to make then they probably skimped on the licence and bought a short term one, with the thought of buying a longer one with the profits, but as they do not seem to be able to break even now, they may not be able to renew the licence. SOE renewed the licence several times, but that is because it did not need $7.5 million per month to break even.

The lack of content / attention that SWTOR is being given is signs that they have a short licence, and that it may not see into 2014. SWG had plenty stuff added to it over the 8.5 years, and even playing it solidly all that time, I still did not do everything it offered when it shut down. I have played most of what SWTOR has to offer, within only months, and now it is just playing through some of the same content over and over again.

SWTOR could have been so much more, but has just keeled over. If it had millions of players, the founders would still be at Bioware reaping the rewards, Makeb would have been in now, plus a tonne more content, and a decent expansion being released that cost $60 or something.

How much content SWG had added in the first year? Everything you say is just your opinion and your wishing....

It is certainly not wishing, and is my opinion but can you say with 100% confidence that SWTOR will last past 2013?

I am not saying 100% that it will shut down, but it does not look good

SWG had enough content to keep enough people playing. Thing is though where it was a sandbox, people mainly made their own fun. There was always something happening to SWG, and you were always busy playing with what there was, to have time to deal with the new stuff.

Do you seriosuly think that SWTOR has all the content of KOTOR 3-9 and beyond which Bioware stated in 2008? If they had that content, it would have been best to have added that than go F2P, or a sizeable chunk be put in now, which would give SWTOR a brighter future. EA said that Makeb would be in before the end of 2012.

Actions speak louder than words, but both their actions and words have been weak, and their lack of actions back things up.

Cryptic/Perfect World have been showing signs of loads of advancements to STO, and has been updated leaps and bounds to what it was at launch, and plenty of stuff coming in 2013. There is definate commitment to that game, and shows signs of a decent future

As SWTOR has gone F2P, they have peoples attention (again), so the few to 6 months from F2P is the time to act with all that content they have, not later in the year, when people have maxed out and given up with the game.

Originally posted by Gaborik

 

 

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The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

Originally posted by apocoluster

Originally posted by GwapoJosh

Originally posted by Ahnog
I like the game the way it is and the direction it is going.

You are one of the very few...

 

....that bother to post on this site.  (There bro, fixed)

 

Mark me as another.  Im satisfied with the game for what they charge me.

I am fine with the game as well.  It ain't great, but I still have fun playing.

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Sevenstar61

Originally posted by superniceguy

 

SWTOR will only be around for years if they can afford the licence renewal, or that EA bought a long term licence, but if the game cost millions to make then they probably skimped on the licence and bought a short term one, with the thought of buying a longer one with the profits, but as they do not seem to be able to break even now, they may not be able to renew the licence. SOE renewed the licence several times, but that is because it did not need $7.5 million per month to break even.

The lack of content / attention that SWTOR is being given is signs that they have a short licence, and that it may not see into 2014. SWG had plenty stuff added to it over the 8.5 years, and even playing it solidly all that time, I still did not do everything it offered when it shut down. I have played most of what SWTOR has to offer, within only months, and now it is just playing through some of the same content over and over again.

SWTOR could have been so much more, but has just keeled over. If it had millions of players, the founders would still be at Bioware reaping the rewards, Makeb would have been in now, plus a tonne more content, and a decent expansion being released that cost $60 or something.

How much content SWG had added in the first year? Everything you say is just your opinion and your wishing....

It is certainly not wishing, and is my opinion but can you say with 100% confidence that SWTOR will last past 2013?

I am not saying 100% that it will shut down, but it does not look good

SWG had enough content to keep enough people playing. Thing is though where it was a sandbox, people mainly made their own fun. There was always something happening to SWG, and you were always busy playing with what there was, to have time to deal with the new stuff.

Do you seriosuly think that SWTOR has all the content of KOTOR 3-9 and beyond which Bioware stated in 2008? If they had that content, it would have been best to have added that than go F2P, or a sizeable chunk be put in now, which would give SWTOR a brighter future. EA said that Makeb would be in before the end of 2012.

Actions speak louder than words, but both their actions and words have been weak, and their lack of actions back things up.

Cryptic/Perfect World have been showing signs of loads of advancements to STO, and has been updated leaps and bounds to what it was at launch, and plenty of stuff coming in 2013. There is definate commitment to that game, and shows signs of a decent future

As SWTOR has gone F2P, they have peoples attention (again), so the few to 6 months from F2P is the time to act with all that content they have, not later in the year, when people have maxed out and given up with the game.

 

 

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Of course they are going to say it is going to be around in 2014. They do not want people to quit. Last year EA kept saying they were not going to take the game F2P all the way through to July, but the population levels forced them.

SWG was planned to be around after 2011 too by this:

http://stratics.com/community/threads/concept-swg-server-mergers-2011-2012.235125/

but then was not.

Things change, NOTHING is SOLID.

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

 

 

Why even post dude you are so bias and confused. Its clear you have no clue what your talking about. They are releasing their 1st expansion in 2013 and you think (just like server will be dead in a month after f2p you were wrong, just like they will never have an expansion you were wrong, just like they will never have a level cap you were wrong) they wont make it to 2014 lmfao! You hope they dont so you dont have to waste another year of your life bashing a good mmo you DONT EVEN PLAY!!

The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

 

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Sure there is stuff in the works, but ALL that was mentioned by June 2012, and other than the space project it was meant to be in game before end of 2012, there is nothing new stated AFTER june 2012, that is in the works

Ilum was in game at launch, but was removed, and not planned until 2014, what a joke

SGR was even mentioned way back in Sep 2011, it is nothing new

just the same stuff being dragged and stretched out.

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

 

 

Why even post dude you are so bias and confused. Its clear you have no clue what your talking about. They are releasing their 1st expansion in 2013 and you think (just like server will be dead in a month after f2p you were wrong, just like they will never have an expansion you were wrong, just like they will never have a level cap you were wrong) they wont make it to 2014 lmfao! You hope they dont so you dont have to waste another year of your life bashing a good mmo you DONT EVEN PLAY!!

The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

 

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Sure there is stuff in the works, but ALL that was mentioned by June 2012, and other than the space project it was meant to be in game before end of 2012, there is nothing new stated AFTER june 2012, that is in the works

Ilum was in game at launch, but was removed, and not planned until 2014, what a joke

SGR was even mentioned way back in Sep 2011, it is nothing new

just the same stuff being dragged and stretched out.

 

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I am not bashing it, just posting the facts.

More info so far has just beenj a tease, and when there is more info, it is just stuff that they have already said about, but finally coming. They have already said that there will be flashpoints and ops at launch, and was supposed to get one each per month. Have there been 12 flashpoints and ops added since launch? NO. So it is just loads of content just bottled up.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

 

 

Why even post dude you are so bias and confused. Its clear you have no clue what your talking about. They are releasing their 1st expansion in 2013 and you think (just like server will be dead in a month after f2p you were wrong, just like they will never have an expansion you were wrong, just like they will never have a level cap you were wrong) they wont make it to 2014 lmfao! You hope they dont so you dont have to waste another year of your life bashing a good mmo you DONT EVEN PLAY!!

The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

 

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Sure there is stuff in the works, but ALL that was mentioned by June 2012, and other than the space project it was meant to be in game before end of 2012, there is nothing new stated AFTER june 2012, that is in the works

Ilum was in game at launch, but was removed, and not planned until 2014, what a joke

SGR was even mentioned way back in Sep 2011, it is nothing new

just the same stuff being dragged and stretched out.

And???  You were disappointed, got it.  You don't like the game, got it.  Wasting you time trolling the SWTOR posts, time to go outside, that big bright ball in the sky won't kill you I promise.  Me on the other hand, I get moon burn during a full moon...

You might be a happier person if you spent time playing a game you do like and not getting all worked up bitching about a game you will never change.

Originally posted by Latronus

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

 

 

Why even post dude you are so bias and confused. Its clear you have no clue what your talking about. They are releasing their 1st expansion in 2013 and you think (just like server will be dead in a month after f2p you were wrong, just like they will never have an expansion you were wrong, just like they will never have a level cap you were wrong) they wont make it to 2014 lmfao! You hope they dont so you dont have to waste another year of your life bashing a good mmo you DONT EVEN PLAY!!

The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

 

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Sure there is stuff in the works, but ALL that was mentioned by June 2012, and other than the space project it was meant to be in game before end of 2012, there is nothing new stated AFTER june 2012, that is in the works

Ilum was in game at launch, but was removed, and not planned until 2014, what a joke

SGR was even mentioned way back in Sep 2011, it is nothing new

just the same stuff being dragged and stretched out.

And???  You were disappointed, got it.  You don't like the game, got it.  Wasting you time trolling the SWTOR posts, time to go outside, that big bright ball in the sky won't kill you I promise.  Me on the other hand, I get moon burn during a full moon...

You might be a happier person if you spent time playing a game you do like and not getting all worked up bitching about a game you will never change.

At least I do not go bashing and insulting people. If I want to keep posting here what is it to you?  I state what would be good with the game, and then people get all high and mighty and try and defend the game, and tell me to get lost, and what I need to do.

I want to play the game, and one aspect of the game that has prevented me from playing has changed only yesterday - char slots, so do not say the game wil never change.

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Latronus

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

Originally posted by Gaborik

 

 

Why even post dude you are so bias and confused. Its clear you have no clue what your talking about. They are releasing their 1st expansion in 2013 and you think (just like server will be dead in a month after f2p you were wrong, just like they will never have an expansion you were wrong, just like they will never have a level cap you were wrong) they wont make it to 2014 lmfao! You hope they dont so you dont have to waste another year of your life bashing a good mmo you DONT EVEN PLAY!!

The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

 

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Sure there is stuff in the works, but ALL that was mentioned by June 2012, and other than the space project it was meant to be in game before end of 2012, there is nothing new stated AFTER june 2012, that is in the works

Ilum was in game at launch, but was removed, and not planned until 2014, what a joke

SGR was even mentioned way back in Sep 2011, it is nothing new

just the same stuff being dragged and stretched out.

And???  You were disappointed, got it.  You don't like the game, got it.  Wasting you time trolling the SWTOR posts, time to go outside, that big bright ball in the sky won't kill you I promise.  Me on the other hand, I get moon burn during a full moon...

You might be a happier person if you spent time playing a game you do like and not getting all worked up bitching about a game you will never change.

At least I do not go bashing and insulting people. If I want to keep posting here what is it to you?  I state what would be good with the game, and then people get all high and mighty and try and defend the game, and tell me to get lost, and what I need to do.

I want to play the game, and one aspect of the game that has prevented me from playing has changed only yesterday - char slots, so do not say the game wil never change.

wouldn't be easier on you though to take all of your repetitive posts comparing this to SWG and all the things you continue not to like and consolidate them into one review in the review section? I'm worried about your stress levels and the impact they may have on your health lol.

In the spirit of my original post, I wish that there was some way to actually get the programmers at EA to fulfill the potential that this game could have had.

They could leave much of the first 50 levels as is, but just add on for future worlds. That way the people who say, "oh no it's enough the way it is" could just play what exists now, and those who wanted more could have something to fit broader tastes.

Several posters have talked about the pace and direction of the game being very lackluster, and to this I have to agree. There has been very sparse additions considering the pace of consumption. Anything actively asked for by players on official forums (3d space, mini games, PvP additions, etc.) are not being addressed in any decent time frame.

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Originally posted by superniceguy

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Originally posted by Gaborik

Originally posted by superniceguy

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Why even post dude you are so bias and confused. Its clear you have no clue what your talking about. They are releasing their 1st expansion in 2013 and you think (just like server will be dead in a month after f2p you were wrong, just like they will never have an expansion you were wrong, just like they will never have a level cap you were wrong) they wont make it to 2014 lmfao! You hope they dont so you dont have to waste another year of your life bashing a good mmo you DONT EVEN PLAY!!

The expansion is only Makeb which was mentioned in June 2012, as a normal content update for your $15 monthly fee, and was planned to be in before the end of 2012.

I would have been impressed if that happened and there was a proper expansion to add more content and cost $60. 

I never said there would never be a level cap, and it was all mentioned back in June 2012, just held back to drag out the little content they have got. All this including the space project was done before June 2012, but nothing is on the drawing board after this?

 

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Sure there is stuff in the works, but ALL that was mentioned by June 2012, and other than the space project it was meant to be in game before end of 2012, there is nothing new stated AFTER june 2012, that is in the works

Ilum was in game at launch, but was removed, and not planned until 2014, what a joke

SGR was even mentioned way back in Sep 2011, it is nothing new

just the same stuff being dragged and stretched out.

And???  You were disappointed, got it.  You don't like the game, got it.  Wasting you time trolling the SWTOR posts, time to go outside, that big bright ball in the sky won't kill you I promise.  Me on the other hand, I get moon burn during a full moon...

You might be a happier person if you spent time playing a game you do like and not getting all worked up bitching about a game you will never change.

At least I do not go bashing and insulting people. If I want to keep posting here what is it to you?  I state what would be good with the game, and then people get all high and mighty and try and defend the game, and tell me to get lost, and what I need to do.

I want to play the game, and one aspect of the game that has prevented me from playing has changed only yesterday - char slots, so do not say the game wil never change.

 

One aspect that kept you from the game was char slots? Really? Well if that's the case stay in STO we don't want or need you in a galaxy far far better than yours.

Once you have created at least 2 chars as a sub, and went preferred you only had 2 chars to play with since Nove 15th, so were completely locked out until yesterday. It was not a choice. You could not create a 3rd even if you wanted to. So unable to create another character = unable to play.

Do you actually play and like SWTOR? It does not seem like it, as you do not want more poeple to come play and keep it alive.