Originally posted by Enerzeal

I remember Crushbone castle, I compare every great grouping experience to Crushbone castle.

This or Blackburrow =)

Originally posted by Aethaeryn

If getteing to max level is too fast I would replace grind in your suggestion with an XP / day. . skill gain / day limit.  Something like that would push people to spend time doing other things or they could still grind for loot if they wanted.

I think the answer to fast level gain is to just not have levels.  People need to feel like they are advancing or they just get bored.

The reason it gets boring with leveling in theme park games is because the animals / monsters for your level are only in select zones etc.  You can't "explore" while you kill stuff.

They tried that in FFXIV.   It didn't sit too well with players.

I don't know if allowing players to explore would help or not, but my own opinion is because these games are too easy.  If they don't provide a challenge every step of the way how will any player gain a sense of accomplishment?   

Originally posted by thinktank001

Originally posted by Aethaeryn

If getteing to max level is too fast I would replace grind in your suggestion with an XP / day. . skill gain / day limit.  Something like that would push people to spend time doing other things or they could still grind for loot if they wanted.

I think the answer to fast level gain is to just not have levels.  People need to feel like they are advancing or they just get bored.

The reason it gets boring with leveling in theme park games is because the animals / monsters for your level are only in select zones etc.  You can't "explore" while you kill stuff.

They tried that in FFXIV.   It didn't sit too well with players.

 

I don't know if allowing players to explore would help or not, but my own opinion is because these games are too easy.  If they don't provide a challenge every step of the way how will any player gain a sense of accomplishment?   

Through comparison to others. At least that my understanding of the thought process behind a grind game. 

Time = Power.

People are attracted to the idea of spending time to gain power over others. Challenging gameplay isn't necessarily required to keep a person interested. The more ridiculous the grind, the more exclusive the power. It makes people feel more unique which can often be just as attractive as overcoming some obstacle for many.

On a side note, I don't personally like the "grind" type games.