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  ktanner3

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1/07/13 10:58:21 AM#41
Originally posted by tawess

9/10 do not let you post a so called "good bye" thread as they tend to quickly derail in to garbage filled flame-fests

 

Same goes for re-opening closed topics (this is usually lumped in under the trolling clause)

 

So no matter how much you feel you have the right to tell a bunch of people who do not give a penny your feelings on leaving SWToR you were in the wrong here and you decided to resolve it in the most immature way you could (ok actually i can think of a few more immature ways.. but it is not by much). There is (or was at least for me) a fairly detailed survey you had to fill out when closing your account that also give you the option to write further commenst on why you are leaving. This then goes directly to the marketing department so they can evaluate why they lost you as a customer (trust me.. i have worked with handeling stuff like that.. not for BW but still.. It is dead boring but get done any wayt)

 

So take a bacon-buttie and chill your behind.

This. There are plenty of threads on the official boards to discuss game issues along with a detailed survey when you cancel. "I Quit" threads are nothing more than places for drama queens to vent. They provide nothing of substance and do nothing but push more important threads down. It's trolling and I'm glad they don't last long. 

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  simplius

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1/07/13 11:11:54 AM#42
Originally posted by Ouriel

To be honest and realistic, no one really cares why you leave. Those threads are stupid and utterly ridiculous; you either write a thread, that doesn't have the word "Leaving/quiting" and point out what is wrong with the game, or you just leave without letting everyone know what were the reasons you were leaving.
Point being, no one really cares if leave, just make a thread of what makes you think is wrong with the game or just leave the game quietly. End of discussion.

They had the right to ban you for posting something that was already being deleted twice.

interesting,,to show your complete lack of interest, you log into a different site, and make a post about

your lack of interest,,thats like making a big protest sign that says: I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY

with swtor  horrible player retention, they really should care about consumer feedback

but they cant,,every post with negative feedback is either swamped by fan replies or deleted by mods

they started so big,,now theyre a F2P niche game, all in less than a year

the sad part is,,this will prolly be the last BIG star wars MMO

atfer those disappointments,,who will sink so many mio in the next version? and competition is even harder now

looks like mmos dont make it really big without the magic of dragons and elves

  BadOrb

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1/11/13 1:04:05 PM#43

There is a thread for players to post in when they leave SWTOR and if you are an active player and official forum reader then you would know about it. "The unsubscribers thread - tell us a few things" is the name of it  , I was just wondering why you didn't post in there OP ?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=476966&highlight=things

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BadOrb.

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  FromHell

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1/11/13 3:21:29 PM#44

you could have posted in the 100 page unsubscribers thread instead, as everyone knows no one likes "I´m leaving threads", it gives a special snowflake impression.

 

I´m pretty sure Bioware already has a well researched "Top 20 reasons" list why people are leaving

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  simplius

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1/11/13 9:20:43 PM#45
Originally posted by BadOrb

There is a thread for players to post in when they leave SWTOR and if you are an active player and official forum reader then you would know about it. "The unsubscribers thread - tell us a few things" is the name of it  , I was just wondering why you didn't post in there OP ?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=476966&highlight=things

Cheers,

BadOrb.

i wrote in the unsub thread,,they deleted my post

now i cant post on their forums,,,after paying full price for DD version(preorder) and 6 months subs

they want money, but no consumer feedback? try running business like that,,thats why they get so much hate

  BadOrb

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1/12/13 3:17:11 PM#46
Originally posted by simplius
Originally posted by BadOrb

There is a thread for players to post in when they leave SWTOR and if you are an active player and official forum reader then you would know about it. "The unsubscribers thread - tell us a few things" is the name of it  , I was just wondering why you didn't post in there OP ?

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=476966&highlight=things

Cheers,

BadOrb.

i wrote in the unsub thread,,they deleted my post

now i cant post on their forums,,,after paying full price for DD version(preorder) and 6 months subs

they want money, but no consumer feedback? try running business like that,,thats why they get so much hate

I don't quite understand your problem. Is it that your sub was running out and then you posted there and it was deleted ? Is that why you can't post no more ? I agree that not letting preferred or F2P people post on the forums is a little odd , the should have had an extra section at least ;/.

Cheers,

BadOrb.

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
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  simplius

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1/12/13 4:24:35 PM#47

no they delete a lot of critic posts

i had unsubbed at the time, but there was still over a month left on my sub (3 month plan)

they can ban me from their forums,,but give me a reason for doing it

why do u think , that people, WHO PAYED FOR THE GAME CANT POST ON FORUMS?

they dont want more flame threads

  BadOrb

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1/12/13 4:37:14 PM#48
Originally posted by simplius

no they delete a lot of critic posts

i had unsubbed at the time, but there was still over a month left on my sub (3 month plan)

they can ban me from their forums,,but give me a reason for doing it

why do u think , that people, WHO PAYED FOR THE GAME CANT POST ON FORUMS?

they dont want more flame threads

O right , well i had one warning once for complaining that they deleted one of my posts , even though i was the only person in the whole of the first page to actually answer the OP . So i suggested they edit my post next time and yeah they did for a bit after that. Lol at least they listened.

Yeah they should have somewhere for people who bought the game or are F2p or preferred to post really.

Cheers,

Badorb.

PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
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  simplius

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1/12/13 4:55:52 PM#49

yea,,they could have avoided a lot of flak

i know, im only one vote amongst many,,but when i pay, i want to TAKE that vote

i still follow swtor forums,,looks like the downwards spiral is continuing

servers may be full,,that shouldnt be hard with free lightsabers though

their next actions will show if the game is on the right course,,,do they have resources enough to

start actual bughunt and QA ,,or will it be another moneygrab

 

  Thebigbopper

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1/13/13 2:00:56 AM#50

Kind of ironic that someone would complain here of SWTOR forum moderation when anyone who likes SWTOR comes here and reads the dribble, poisoned bullshit that goes on here. These forurms are substandard and it's not the owners of this websites doing but they need to moderate it more.

 How can it be productive to read the umpteenth post, from the same people of the same forums spewing venom on a game they don't even play no more. "Just as an example"

 I am sure i will get the "i have a right to an opinion: replies but so do i--- The moderation of these forums sucks arse and do nothing good for the mmorpg genre as a whole.

 If anyone will get moderated it will be me now but this is a trashy website anyway, i don't give a shit no more.

  tiefighter25

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1/13/13 2:57:17 AM#51
Originally posted by Thebigbopper

Kind of ironic that someone would complain here of SWTOR forum moderation when anyone who likes SWTOR comes here and reads the dribble, poisoned bullshit that goes on here. These forurms are substandard and it's not the owners of this websites doing but they need to moderate it more.

 How can it be productive to read the umpteenth post, from the same people of the same forums spewing venom on a game they don't even play no more. "Just as an example"

 I am sure i will get the "i have a right to an opinion: replies but so do i--- The moderation of these forums sucks arse and do nothing good for the mmorpg genre as a whole.

 If anyone will get moderated it will be me now but this is a trashy website anyway, i don't give a shit no more.

Personally, I'm tired of the "We were stabbed in the back" mentality some seem to have in regard to negative comments about SWTOR.

These forums are far less negative towards SWTOR then SWTOR's own heavily moderated forums. TOR's forums seem to be quite a few people bringing up concerns about the game who are quickly drowned out by the game's defenders shouting about , "A vocal minority", "An organized Butthurt SWG vetran smear campaign", "Paid competitor disinformation", "Subscription paying trolls.", "The game runs fine on my netbook, 200 FPS on fleet.", "Basement dwellers", "WE don't want you here, WoW is --------> that way.", "Can I have your stuff?" etc.

For every hater, there are just as many if not more consistently reposting defenders.

But if it makes you feel vindicated to blame all of SWTOR's woes on 3rd party moderators, by all means continue.

I'm pretty sure staff such as Mike B. have tried to be as fair minded about SWTOR as possible, to the point of granting it quite a bit of leiniency. They seem to have moderated as such. It's just that SWTOR makes it very, very hard to appear so because quite frankly, it seems the majority of people geniunely have many issues with the game and it's creators.

What's more, even worse for SWTOR, most people have, "Stop complaining about the game and move on.", have done just that.

Generally, where there's smoke there's fire.

Of course just my opinion, which runs counter to yours, so you wish the moderators would delete it so as to stop stabbing SWTOR in the back.

-Auf wiedersehen

  Thebigbopper

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1/13/13 3:25:09 AM#52

 Nothing about being stabbed in the back in my previous comment. These are SWTOR forums but  the comments here are generally non productive.

 I think posts that say things for example "EA stole my baby,  this game sucks because i am socially retarded and can;t find a group, this game sucks because there is no large group pvp so i can't hide the fact i suck,  this game sucks because i can't run it on my souped up Commodore 64, this games sucks because they spent a lot of money on it and well that just sucks, this game sucks because it's free but i can't do things that people do when they pay,  this game sucks because i played it over 20 hrs this month and did not get my $15 worth ......  maybe could be moderated.

 Exaggeration there but if i went to forums i would like to actually ask questions on the actual game not listen to ex players rant what they don't like. The forums should actually be more for people who enjoy the game to have genuine conversation....... "im my opinion"

 

  tiefighter25

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1/13/13 7:17:36 AM#53

Well here's the rub.

There is nothing preventing you from starting more "productive" threads.

I don't see how complaining about people commenting in non-productive threads is helping your cause.

Perhaps people aren't discussing the new SWTOR content and game mechanics in depth because quite simply, there hasn't been much to talk about in that regard.

The game is pretty close to what it was at launch. Take away the tacked on UI update, groupfinder addition, a couple of warzones, a flashpoint, an operation, and a few hard modes; there has been little to discuss other then FTP, server merges, cartel market, and a content update repackaged as an expansion. (Nothing new content wise that wasn't previewed in June at E3.)

If you think there are more productive things to discuss, quit complaining and start a new thread.

I'll try and do you a favor and start one for you.

  tiefighter25

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1/13/13 7:26:06 AM#54

See?

Wasn't that hard and I didn't even have to insult anyone or turn my flamethrower to "gross exageration" mode.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/5503664/thread/374352#5503664

  User Deleted
1/14/13 4:25:59 AM#55
Originally posted by Thebigbopper

 Nothing about being stabbed in the back in my previous comment. These are SWTOR forums but  the comments here are generally non productive.

 I think posts that say things for example "EA stole my baby,  this game sucks because i am socially retarded and can;t find a group, this game sucks because there is no large group pvp so i can't hide the fact i suck,  this game sucks because i can't run it on my souped up Commodore 64, this games sucks because they spent a lot of money on it and well that just sucks, this game sucks because it's free but i can't do things that people do when they pay,  this game sucks because i played it over 20 hrs this month and did not get my $15 worth ......  maybe could be moderated.

 Exaggeration there but if i went to forums i would like to actually ask questions on the actual game not listen to ex players rant what they don't like. The forums should actually be more for people who enjoy the game to have genuine conversation....... "im my opinion"

 

mmmm, you know you dont actually have to read those threads if you dont want to.

By your logic all "i love this game" theads should be removed too since they add nothing worth reading either.

And in pretty sure all those threads are about actual game.

  simplius

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1/14/13 4:39:58 AM#56

i agree that some threads/posts go out of line

its called polarization,,if i push, you push back

mmos are service,,they NEED consumer feedback,,when the sub numbers start dropping, that means something is wrong

since i was a paying customer, they should have interest in keeping me,,replacing me with a F2Per wont help much

it is okay to defend the game that you love,,it is also okay to disagree on my reason for leaving

but having the same defenders jump every complaint thread,,valid as unvalid threads,,just blurs the forum

i made a suggestion for a difficulty slider once,,both up and down ofc

i was flamed for being a retard and a troll at once,,try that for constructive threads

even some hardcore fans are leaving now,,NOT because of bugs or repetitive gameplay

but because their favorite fluff item didnt work

 

  Muke

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1/14/13 4:42:56 AM#57
Originally posted by simplius

mmos are service,,they NEED consumer feedback,,when the sub numbers start dropping, that means something is wrong

thought that if you canced a Swtor subscription, you would get a mini survey why you would leave the game?

Not sure, been ages since I played but in my current MMO's you get those surveys before you can click on the cancel button.

"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

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1/14/13 9:45:27 AM#58
Originally posted by Muke
Originally posted by simplius

mmos are service,,they NEED consumer feedback,,when the sub numbers start dropping, that means something is wrong

thought that if you canced a Swtor subscription, you would get a mini survey why you would leave the game?

Not sure, been ages since I played but in my current MMO's you get those surveys before you can click on the cancel button.

Not if you use time cards.

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1/14/13 9:53:49 AM#59
Originally posted by Marcelino
Originally posted by tawess

you were in the wrong here and you decided to resolve it in the most immature way you could

Rubbish. I went to the forums so I could have a mature discussion as to why I left with other subscribers. I was not looking for attention, I didnt not do it to flame or troll. One of the main reasons I did it was because I had experience from this kind of forum posting before. When I left Warcraft back in 2007, the changes that happened to my resto druid, i was actually talked back into staying from helpful advice from other balance druid, that one post and helpful tips and advice from other players kept me with WoW for another 5 years.

People may say "oh well you should make up your own mind", but I personally welcome the opinions and advice from fellow players to help me make up my mind, and if EA wont allow me to do that when I pay them a monthly fee then something is wrong!

 If you had an issue with a portion of the game you could have posted that as constructive criticism, without adding the melodramatic and unnecessary 'I quit' part.

  raistlinm

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1/14/13 10:19:29 AM#60
Originally posted by Marcelino

Last night I made a forum post on the offical SWTOR forums explaining the reasons as to why I was leaving SWTOR. It wasnt flaming, or trolling, it was just valid reasons as to why I quit because I just wanted to get my point across and get feedback from other players, even maybe let them talk me into staying.

2 mins later it was deleted

 

so I posted it again....
 

I tried a third time and apparently I was banned from the forums for 20 mins. I contacted Customer service support who said I had been banned for "flaming and trolling".

 

I understand now when people are saying that Bioware are not listening to thier playerbase. What is the point in not being able to give feedback? How are they suppose to improve on thier game if I am not able to share my opinions with other players?
 
[mod note - edited title to better reflect topic and not be unsubstantiated attack]

Unlike a lot of folks on here I won't roast you for thinking it is ok to create a post on an official forum explaining why you quit the game but will say I learned this about three months into STO when I did the same thing, in that instance I was given a ban by Cryptic on my first and only post of it  seeing as how EA let you repost it then only ban you for 20 minutes I'm actually thinking kudos to them for being somewhat understanding.

After having done that in STO I began watching the STO forums and then and only then did I realize that the myriad of "I quit" posts that popped  up there daily where almost always immediately deleted and the ones that weren't immediately degenrated into flame wars between those less than enthused about the game and those who think it fine.

That was when I realized the dilema created by these types of posts and found myself able to sympathise with the devs and their stance on not allowing these types of posts.

I do wish it was a more obvious rule as it's easy to think that creating an I quit post is ok if you are extremely careful not to troll or break any obvious rules but as stated by me and many others the problem with these posts are the unintended consequences.

 

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