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  DMKano

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Joined: 6/17/11
Posts: 4516

1/05/13 9:03:37 AM#21
Originally posted by Gorwe

An attack?

That would be just like I hugged a stranger or if I touched someone with a feather lol.

But, in the strictest meaning possible(Legal Definitions), I guess it was my fault. But still, what levels of carebear attidute(sheeesh it's off the scale)...

And so strict! I'll say following so who understands, understands: J->200, P->-100 lol!

Imagine you had a newborn baby only hours old, some stranger walks in the room with a feather and just wants to tickle your child.

Sure its an extreme case, but many people have their own boundaries as far as what they consider safe, and those are often very different from your own. Don't assume that what you deem harmless is the same for all people.

  EvilGeek

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Joined: 8/17/08
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My freedom relies on yours

1/05/13 9:06:01 AM#22


Originally posted by illyana
made my day reading the official forums

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/support/account/PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE



Lol that cracked me up, loved the reply Gaile gave him, short and to the point :)

I think it's admirable that Anet are trying to keep the forums free of name calling, it doesn't help the discussion.


  Maephisto

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Joined: 2/15/12
Posts: 653

1/05/13 10:50:38 AM#23
Originally posted by eyelolled

This is hilarious.  Saved.

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We all know the amount of people who come to this sub forum to hate on GW2.  I can only imagine what it is like on the official forums.  They probably see any and all name calling as a test of thier limits.  I have often thought that this may inhibit server pride in WvW dissuccions.  Maybe it is a good thing to let opponents get at eachothers throat every once and awhile, but only on the PvP boards.

I have tried to find a forum where people can openly discuss WvW topics without excessive moderation.  GW2guru is the best I could find.  They have pretty strict rules as well, though.

  FlawSGI

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Joined: 8/14/10
Posts: 1387

All of history is a lie. The truth depends on who does the listening, and who does the telling...

1/05/13 10:59:12 AM#24
Originally posted by sk8chalif
and everyones wanted a official forums for gw2. there you have it lol.  if i have tehnical problem with the game i go there and wait for a good anwser or ask here.

Exactly. It's a damned if they do, damned if they don't scenario. If they allow this type of behavior, regardless of severity or intent, then their site and commmunity is a cesspool. If they try to snuff the bahavior, they are "utter nonsense" or mods on a power trip. I also agree, I don't go there for discussions for the exact same reasons as many have complained about the official forums. If I want help with a technical problem I'll go there and sift. If I want to read information (good or bad) and possibly have a discussion I come here. It's prettty simple really.

RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.

  GrayGhost79

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Joined: 8/30/08
Posts: 4888

1/05/13 11:15:47 AM#25
Originally posted by Gorwe

It actually was. Because they started to get flame ready and I stepped in to explain things. It all happened because random guy used my acronym(you'll hear about that acronym soon enough :D) and didn't explain what it actually stood for. Plus if people get offended at stuff like Fool/Plonker/Wallie/Nitwit-it's their fault and not mine. It's my way of speaking so get used to it(and not only mine!)...

Anyhow, use EXTREMELY polite expressions if you wind up there. Behave Like you are at Pope's Palace...

Heres the deal, calling peoples names and such is uncalled for. I do it all the time but I'm not some nitwit that doesn't understand that a lot of people are going to find it unacceptable especially in a community setting. Many of us here are insensitive prics, including me. They were in the right as is any place that moderates name calling. 

What is acceptable in your group of friends is not acceptable when discussing things with strangers especially in an open forum. It's manners, common courtesy, human decency, or w'/e you wish to use. 

 

Be whom ever you wish to be, but don't be a fool and think it's acceptable or right just because you think it should be lol. 

  Scalpless

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1259

1/05/13 12:21:21 PM#26

I've seen some good criticism of their modding policies, but this thread isn't it.

IMO they've got good mods. I'd rather read polite and well-constructed posts than typical MMO forum "y u sux so much noob?!" flame wars. Also, read the CoC. If you don't like what it says, don't post.

  Kaerigan

Novice Member

Joined: 11/18/06
Posts: 713

1/05/13 12:37:42 PM#27

I got banned from these forums for calling someone a neanderthal.

In short: do not call people names. It's pretty simple.

<childish, provocative and highly speculative banner about your favorite game goes here>

  MumboJumbo

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Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 3114

Veni, Vidi, Converti

1/05/13 12:38:26 PM#28
Originally posted by Gorwe

It actually was. Because they started to get flame ready and I stepped in to explain things. It all happened because random guy used my acronym(you'll hear about that acronym soon enough :D) and didn't explain what it actually stood for. Plus if people get offended at stuff like Fool/Plonker/Wallie/Nitwit-it's their fault and not mine. It's my way of speaking so get used to it(and not only mine!)...

Anyhow, use EXTREMELY polite expressions if you wind up there. Behave Like you are at Pope's Palace...

Now listen here, Gorwe, duckie, you're smart just replace any of the above with "geezer" - and bob's your uncle!

  Alot

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Joined: 1/04/11
Posts: 1984

Minister of Propaganda for GW2 Fascist-Capitalist Party

1/05/13 12:41:19 PM#29

I don't always insult people, but when I do I call them "kittens".

  User Deleted
1/05/13 12:43:37 PM#30

I'm not concerned over namecalling at all, those become flame fests anyways.

What I am concerned with is their tendency to remove posts describing problems players are having for the purpose of sweeping things under the proverbial rug. They did it with the 1200 replies thread that was about the ongoing loot issues. The thread to replace that once accused the entire community of "perceiving" their daily ongoing lower and in some cases nonexistant drop rate experience wrong. like somehow we imagined the whole thing.

They did it again when people started discussing the recent rash of bans which i still don't agree with and I don't usually do things like this but the way they handle these situations it's a wonder they have any players left with such poor management happening in this place, they need someone else in charge severely.

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1673

 
OP  1/05/13 4:31:24 PM#31

And in that very post, the whole confusion over what we were talking was dispeled. They basically dispeled the dispel. That thread is beyond salvation now. That's bad mod behaviour(they should've just edited it-Scorched Earth Tactics rarely, if ever, do what they were supposed to do)...

About changes in ANet-they had influx of new people(obviously). I guess from NC/Nexon. I had nothing but good words for either Linsey or Regina or Gaile(I think RB or GG are responsible for PR/moderation). They are obviously taking orders from clueless men(that would say-Nexon) ;).

  eyelolled

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Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 3082

I am more than some of my parts

1/05/13 4:37:38 PM#32
Originally posted by Gorwe

And in that very post, the whole confusion over what we were talking was dispeled. They basically dispeled the dispel. That thread is beyond salvation now. That's bad mod behaviour(they should've just edited it-Scorched Earth Tactics rarely, if ever, do what they were supposed to do)...

About changes in ANet-they had influx of new people(obviously). I guess from NC/Nexon. I had nothing but good words for either Linsey or Regina or Gaile(I think RB or GG are responsible for PR/moderation). They are obviously taking orders from clueless men(that would say-Nexon) ;).

I really have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say. It seems very scattered and erratic. Maybe things ended up being handled more rigidly because of a misinterpretation.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1673

 
OP  1/05/13 4:44:11 PM#33
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Gorwe

And in that very post, the whole confusion over what we were talking was dispeled. They basically dispeled the dispel. That thread is beyond salvation now. That's bad mod behaviour(they should've just edited it-Scorched Earth Tactics rarely, if ever, do what they were supposed to do)...

About changes in ANet-they had influx of new people(obviously). I guess from NC/Nexon. I had nothing but good words for either Linsey or Regina or Gaile(I think RB or GG are responsible for PR/moderation). They are obviously taking orders from clueless men(that would say-Nexon) ;).

I really have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say. It seems very scattered and erratic. Maybe things ended up being handled more rigidly because of a misinterpretation.

I suspect they are outsourcing their moderation to some cheap labour 3rd world country and that's why the whole post was deleted instead of one line. Cuz, can't speak English->by the rules! mentality->lots of unhappy customers...

They really shouldn't outsource anything in such a delicate endeavour-definitely not to the 3rd world countries lol!

  Dibdabs

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Joined: 5/29/08
Posts: 2399

1/05/13 5:44:10 PM#34
Originally posted by Gorwe

Plus if people get offended at stuff like Fool/Plonker/Wallie/Nitwit-it's their fault and not mine. It's my way of speaking so get used to it

Why? You're just some random guy on the Internet whose name and opinions are so unimportant I wouldn't even bother to remember your name even if I actually looked at it in the first place.  Get over yourself!  :D

  eyelolled

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Joined: 5/13/10
Posts: 3082

I am more than some of my parts

1/05/13 6:07:17 PM#35
Originally posted by Gorwe
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Gorwe

And in that very post, the whole confusion over what we were talking was dispeled. They basically dispeled the dispel. That thread is beyond salvation now. That's bad mod behaviour(they should've just edited it-Scorched Earth Tactics rarely, if ever, do what they were supposed to do)...

About changes in ANet-they had influx of new people(obviously). I guess from NC/Nexon. I had nothing but good words for either Linsey or Regina or Gaile(I think RB or GG are responsible for PR/moderation). They are obviously taking orders from clueless men(that would say-Nexon) ;).

I really have a hard time understanding what you are trying to say. It seems very scattered and erratic. Maybe things ended up being handled more rigidly because of a misinterpretation.

I suspect they are outsourcing their moderation to some cheap labour 3rd world country and that's why the whole post was deleted instead of one line. Cuz, can't speak English->by the rules! mentality->lots of unhappy customers...

They really shouldn't outsource anything in such a delicate endeavour-definitely not to the 3rd world countries lol!

Sorry, I was under the impression that english was a second language for you. I looked and your country said Croatia, so I figured that you might have difficulty with english as a language, and I try to be understanding to that.  Especially to people from countries that are not as well off as my own.  So by what you are saying, does that mean you do not feel the same way?

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5507

1/05/13 6:20:00 PM#36
Originally posted by EvilGeek

Originally posted by illyana
made my day reading the official forums

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/support/account/PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE-PLEASE



Lol that cracked me up, loved the reply Gaile gave him, short and to the point :)

I think it's admirable that Anet are trying to keep the forums free of name calling, it doesn't help the discussion.

That post is hilarious.  I would agree that calling and idiot out feels good especially when they're trolling with nonsense, but I don't think it adds to the discussion.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  Gorwe

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Joined: 9/16/11
Posts: 1673

 
OP  1/05/13 7:12:50 PM#37
Without making a flame war...

Oh I should have written Ulthuan or Alaitoc under the location(so I minimise rather l33t escapades of some people)-FFS mmorpg.com! Why does everyone have to see my private details??? If I want to set my location to middle of the Earth(LOL!) it is my right to do so...

Besides I had straight As from English and written/spoken expressions are my strongest sides. It is not the vocabulary that you don't understand, but the background. Not that it matters.
  eyelolled

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I am more than some of my parts

1/05/13 7:28:48 PM#38
Originally posted by Gorwe
Without making a flame war...

Oh I should have written Ulthuan or Alaitoc under the location(so I minimise rather l33t escapades of some people)-FFS mmorpg.com! Why does everyone have to see my private details??? If I want to set my location to middle of the Earth(LOL!) it is my right to do so...

Besides I had straight As from English and written/spoken expressions are my strongest sides. It is not the vocabulary that you don't understand, but the background. Not that it matters.

You're right. It doesn't really matter. It doesn't say anything about the question I posed in my previous post.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  someforumguy

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1/05/13 7:49:52 PM#39
Originally posted by Gorwe

Isn't it stupid to argume over something you know NOTHING about? Then I, jokingly, called him a nitwit(if I wanted to offend anyone I'd have used WAAAY harsher words). That Word was, basically, a summary of the whole Topic...

Meh. Awesome game-fail Community...

If you start calling ppl names, you set the thread up to get derailed (I am not saying that you intended to do so). No matter what particular word you used. It is just the name calling that matters, because there will be always someone who will feel offended enough (misplaced or not) to completely ignore the topic of the thread and start argueing about you offending someone.

So even if you look from a practical point of view, it is just not smart to call people names in a discussion, no matter how harmless it sounds to yourself. This is nothing new. In any situation you will find people who find form more important then content. This always gets in the way of discussion.

I agree that moderators play an important role in this and it would be better to just edit your post. But the irony is that moderators are random people too, so can do exactly that what they are supposed to prevent (which is preventing the discussion from being killed).

Still, you could've prevented this yourself by avoiding any form of name calling.

  Ramonski7

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"A wise man has something to say, but a fool just has to say something."

1/05/13 8:08:38 PM#40
Originally posted by Gorwe

I can't believe at the level of etiquette required to post there. It is Like you are at the PM(Prime Minister)'s House. Such nonsense-I am on the net to sound Like me and not Like some random drone.

Anyways, I called another member "nitwit". And that's like a serious offense. If I did there what I had done here, there would be police(ye olde Bill with that signal stripe on the hat :D) on my doorstep...

Sheeesh! Give me a break, will you?

Don't feel bad. A lot of people don't follow the 7%-38%-55% rule when trying to communicate on the interwebz. It's as follows:

effective human communication is conveyed as 7% words, 38% tone and 55% body language. But when you are comunicating over the interwebz, the full meaning of your message is hindered by 97%. This is why dogs will wag their little tails even when you're cursing their asses out! It's all about tone and appearance to them. Just think of it this way... always assume that people you are trying to communicate with are not your friends, don't want to get to know you nor care about your feelings. I bet you feel the same way too!

 

So the only option you have is to try using words as effectively as possible and picking only ones that are aligned with the message you're trying to get across, not your tone or body language. In other words, if I were to try to match a picture in my head to the words you use it would look something like this:

**mods please note I said his words not him**

But if you don't care how your words maybe conveyed by others, then that makes two of us. I just wanted to do my part in clearing up your false accusation that name calling in any shape or form, when directed at total strangers to you, is acceptable and utter nonsense.

 


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