Seriously i didnt had more gold, theres a lot of people that play the trading post like they buy cheap sell high and they very rich, but the rich people in this game is very rich the poor is very poor, and im very poor took me 3 months to get 50G.

I was exited to upgrade my back piece of fractals that ask for an insanely 250 ectos thats i very scarce/rare to get and expensive, the only system or way is the trading post and you always loose, cause if you buy or sell there you have to pay more than what the item cost, i couldnt even afford the item itself imagine affording the +tax, yes in a game taxes too... like 15-20% not sure.

When i fractal i get 2-3 rare for the full run as much (because i dont wear MF gears) Come on im a decent player i tried my best to be good not taking advantage to others maybe silly me expecting the same. When i brake 6 yellows with black lion kit i swear i only get 2 ectos out of 6 rares.. is really hard is frustrating.

There was no "lie".  They said people who take advantage of exploits would be punished.  Where did they say scammers would be?

It sucks though and hopefully the guy gets it back.  Most times I see the excuse they give as "I was role playing"  

I see this kind of scam all the time in eq2. They ask you to mail the funds then you get nothing in return. I will not trade with a player like that. The only time I trade is when they are in front of me and even then if your trading plat for sc cash sometimes you get a code that is bad or already used, even then soe will not help you.

Just be careful of how and who you trade with.

Originally posted by nate1980

Originally posted by Threatlevel0

Do they not have any reliable sort of trading in-game, or CoD mail, other than the Trading Post?   There is no individual direct trading?      If not, that seems like something needed at the very least in the game.   

I don't really see any need to for anyone else to tell the OP to grow up, man up, or realize it's just a game.  Kicking someone when they're down, another common trait of anonymous online individuals.     Scamming falls under misconduct to me.   If you get raped it's your fault for what you're wearing, if you get scammed it's your fault for being naive I guess.   The things we come to accept in societies...  Sure, some responsibility can always fall at the feet of the victims, but if there are ways to improve the chances of people not being victimized or punishing those that do then I'm for it.     Regardless of responsibility.     /shrug   Off my soapbox I guess...

Exactly. Whether the OP could of prevented this from happening or not, he was wronged and that type of behavior should not be allowed in the game. I mean, the OP claims to have screenshots and proof of his claims, so it shouldn't be an issue for the CSR's to take care of this.

I can't wait to go to work and just punch someone in the face, and then blame them for having their face around me.

 What has this world come to right?  So sad....So sad....

Originally posted by nate1980

You guys make me sick. Talk about blame the victim. So if you all walk down an alley one night after you got drunk at a bar, and get mugged, I guess the cops should just say, " it's your own fault for walking through a dark alley at night."

People and developers should always be striving to do the right thing. The right thing for the developers to do is to suspend that person and give this guy his gold back. GW2, nor does any other game, need people like that in their games.

If you walk down an alley at night drunk in the dark you are increasing your risk.  There was a risk free way to do this.  

It is more like getting into a car with a stranger to keep from having to walk home.  The OP tried to save money by taking a risky route.    Also it is a game.

Originally posted by nate1980

Originally posted by Threatlevel0

Do they not have any reliable sort of trading in-game, or CoD mail, other than the Trading Post?   There is no individual direct trading?      If not, that seems like something needed at the very least in the game.   

I don't really see any need to for anyone else to tell the OP to grow up, man up, or realize it's just a game.  Kicking someone when they're down, another common trait of anonymous online individuals.     Scamming falls under misconduct to me.   If you get raped it's your fault for what you're wearing, if you get scammed it's your fault for being naive I guess.   The things we come to accept in societies...  Sure, some responsibility can always fall at the feet of the victims, but if there are ways to improve the chances of people not being victimized or punishing those that do then I'm for it.     Regardless of responsibility.     /shrug   Off my soapbox I guess...

Exactly. Whether the OP could of prevented this from happening or not, he was wronged and that type of behavior should not be allowed in the game. I mean, the OP claims to have screenshots and proof of his claims, so it shouldn't be an issue for the CSR's to take care of this.

I can't wait to go to work and just punch someone in the face, and then blame them for having their face around me.

Did the person ask you to swing your arms around?  This person gave someone their gold before getting a product or using the trading post.  There is no way you can compare this to someone just punching a random person in the face.  The guy at work had no interaction with you and didn't step in front of your moving hand.

You and the other poster are relating a scam to unprovoked physical violence.  If someone sold you a TV on the internet would you pay them before getting the TV?  If you sent them the money and then could not contact them what would you do?  That is what this is like.  Ask the police to follow up on that and see how much ef fort they put into it when they are actually dealing with phyisical violence.

Originally posted by keirion
Based off of what their support team regularly says on their forums when this comes up is that they investigate these reports and will ban players for scamming, HOWEVER they will under no circumstances reimburse players who failed to use a secure channel for trading (ie the TP)

Excellent. The perfect solution. If people scam other people they will be punished, but the people that failed to use common sense still get the golden opportunity to learn the hard way.

Originally posted by nate1980

You guys make me sick. Talk about blame the victim. So if you all walk down an alley one night after you got drunk at a bar, and get mugged, I guess the cops should just say, " it's your own fault for walking through a dark alley at night."

People and developers should always be striving to do the right thing. The right thing for the developers to do is to suspend that person and give this guy his gold back. GW2, nor does any other game, need people like that in their games.

Nah CS should not spend time and resources and stuff like this. They are not the police. Also it's aint as easy as looking at the screenshot one guy made. They would actually have to do a proper investigation. Talk to both side, etc. They could not just take one person word for it and start banning accounts and give away/back gold. 

For all we know the guy might have had an accident making him not able to send the items or any other real life related issues or maybe he really did scam. Who knows, but can we really just trust the word of the OP?

Also you comparison is nonsense. I had a friend who got ripped of IRL by some guy for 50 euro's at an online auction. They got a lot of information on the guy (A group of poeple who got ripped off by the same person), but the police was to busy to work on the case or was not to importend to them. In those cases the police will tell you to be more carefull next time. 

Originally posted by nate1980

You guys make me sick. Talk about blame the victim. So if you all walk down an alley one night after you got drunk at a bar, and get mugged, I guess the cops should just say, " it's your own fault for walking through a dark alley at night."

 That is not a correct analogy.

A correct one would be, There are two allies, one is well lit with many people walking it and the other is a dark alley way off in the distance with a guy in the shadows telling you its safe...you go to the dark one and get robbed and then blame the police for not making sure it didnt happen.

That is what happened here. There is a 100% safe way given by the game, the 100% unsafe way was chosen. It sucks, but you took the risk.

OP: if you are honestly as old as your profile says you are, you should have had the presence of mind to not just give someone money. (Hypothetical Situation) : You are sitting around somewhere with your child and a wild stranger appears, he asks to hold the child. Do you: A) Let him hold it....B)Tell him to get lost....C)Leave the child with him and walk away.   

You just left your in-game child with a stranger and walked away.

Originally posted by Aethaeryn

Originally posted by nate1980

Originally posted by Threatlevel0

Do they not have any reliable sort of trading in-game, or CoD mail, other than the Trading Post?   There is no individual direct trading?      If not, that seems like something needed at the very least in the game.   

I don't really see any need to for anyone else to tell the OP to grow up, man up, or realize it's just a game.  Kicking someone when they're down, another common trait of anonymous online individuals.     Scamming falls under misconduct to me.   If you get raped it's your fault for what you're wearing, if you get scammed it's your fault for being naive I guess.   The things we come to accept in societies...  Sure, some responsibility can always fall at the feet of the victims, but if there are ways to improve the chances of people not being victimized or punishing those that do then I'm for it.     Regardless of responsibility.     /shrug   Off my soapbox I guess...

Exactly. Whether the OP could of prevented this from happening or not, he was wronged and that type of behavior should not be allowed in the game. I mean, the OP claims to have screenshots and proof of his claims, so it shouldn't be an issue for the CSR's to take care of this.

I can't wait to go to work and just punch someone in the face, and then blame them for having their face around me.

Did the person ask you to swing your arms around?  This person gave someone their gold before getting a product or using the trading post.  There is no way you can compare this to someone just punching a random person in the face.  The guy at work had no interaction with you and didn't step in front of your moving hand.

 

You and the other poster are relating a scam to unprovoked physical violence.  If someone sold you a TV on the internet would you pay them before getting the TV?  If you sent them the money and then could not contact them what would you do?  That is what this is like.  Ask the police to follow up on that and see how much ef fort they put into it when they are actually dealing with phyisical violence.

Enough with the analogies.   I was only pointing out the blame victims get after being victimized is unnecceasary, never relating the OP's misfortune to rape.    Jesus....

Originally posted by Zoyita

Also just for your information in the terms of service:

Source: http://us.ncsoft.com/en-gb/legal/user-agreements/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct.html

("NCSOFT") and ArenaNet, Inc. ("ArenaNet") have the sole right and final judgment of how to interpret and apply these rules and guidelines to any specific circumstance and situation, including proper punishment or exception.
While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players.
 

Big talk in there TOS but when it came time to do something they failed bigtime. I guess the scamer got the "exception". Sorry OP someone took advantage of you.

Some nice responces in this thread to btw. Big hearts in the GW2 community.

Originally posted by C.L.O.U.D

OP: if you are honestly as old as your profile says you are, you should have had the presence of mind to not just give someone money. (Hypothetical Situation) : You are sitting around somewhere with your child and a wild stranger appears, he asks to hold the child. Do you: A) Let him hold it....B)Tell him to get lost....C)Leave the child with him and walk away.   

You just left your in-game child with a stranger and walked away.

This is an insance analogy.

Would have gone with something like you gave someone a 20 to go get you a beer from the bar and they never came back with the beer or your 20.

Originally posted by Threatlevel0

Originally posted by Aethaeryn

Originally posted by nate1980

Originally posted by Threatlevel0

Do they not have any reliable sort of trading in-game, or CoD mail, other than the Trading Post?   There is no individual direct trading?      If not, that seems like something needed at the very least in the game.   

I don't really see any need to for anyone else to tell the OP to grow up, man up, or realize it's just a game.  Kicking someone when they're down, another common trait of anonymous online individuals.     Scamming falls under misconduct to me.   If you get raped it's your fault for what you're wearing, if you get scammed it's your fault for being naive I guess.   The things we come to accept in societies...  Sure, some responsibility can always fall at the feet of the victims, but if there are ways to improve the chances of people not being victimized or punishing those that do then I'm for it.     Regardless of responsibility.     /shrug   Off my soapbox I guess...

Exactly. Whether the OP could of prevented this from happening or not, he was wronged and that type of behavior should not be allowed in the game. I mean, the OP claims to have screenshots and proof of his claims, so it shouldn't be an issue for the CSR's to take care of this.

I can't wait to go to work and just punch someone in the face, and then blame them for having their face around me.

Did the person ask you to swing your arms around?  This person gave someone their gold before getting a product or using the trading post.  There is no way you can compare this to someone just punching a random person in the face.  The guy at work had no interaction with you and didn't step in front of your moving hand.

 

You and the other poster are relating a scam to unprovoked physical violence.  If someone sold you a TV on the internet would you pay them before getting the TV?  If you sent them the money and then could not contact them what would you do?  That is what this is like.  Ask the police to follow up on that and see how much ef fort they put into it when they are actually dealing with phyisical violence.

 

Enough with the analogies.   I was only pointing out the blame victims get after being victimized is unnecceasary, never relating the OP's misfortune to rape.    Jesus....

 

 

No one did.   I agree that it sucks and I don't blame. them.  I think that the expectation that the person would be punished is what is excessive.  I think it sucks.  The person deserves to be scorned. . outed etc.  

That sucks someone ripped you off. I am not suprised the CS did not do anything about it, it takes alot of time and investigation to make sure your side of the story is accurate.

It was a crummy thing for someone to do for sure. Best advice I can give you is never send anyone gold in the mail and be suspicious of pretty much anyone who asks you to.

I think most people who have played MMOs for many years have had some dealing with folks like this. I did a few stupid things in DAoC many years ago, i was a noob to MMOs and learned the hard way as well. Needless to say it has not happened since and I am much more careful with transactions. I dont do em unless its scam proof, ever.

Dont let it ruin your game experience with GW2. Most people are not like that, just chalk this one up to lesson learned and move on.

Meh, you were well aware of the risk you were taking sending him your money. It's fairly obvious in game that there is no way to guaruntee a return/reply.

To go crying to Anet afterwards is essentially going "I took a gamble and it didn't pay off, I want my money back!".