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  xalvi

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OP  1/03/13 12:02:21 PM#1

Because turbine/warner bros owns it, at this moment.

 

The end.

  waynejr2

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RIP City of Heroes!

1/03/13 12:24:55 PM#2
That would make it the third company to be involved with the project......
  Wakygreek

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Reason is a necessity

1/03/13 12:35:06 PM#3
I want either Blizzard or Anet to remake LOTRO.
  xalvi

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OP  1/03/13 12:44:00 PM#4
Originally posted by Wakygreek
I want either Blizzard or Anet to remake LOTRO.

 

AMEN to that.

Even though im playing GW2 atm, i really hope ANET does not make LOTRO. Part of the reason im hating GW2 is because of its zergy style PVP, i guess their focus is more about zerg which sucks.

Blizzard, never played WoW, seems to know gamers and have the whole package. I'm just dying to get back into a LOTR franchise without dealing with the shitty and outdated LOTRO game made by failbine.

 

I hate you hobbit movie for bringing me back into the LOTR feeling, damn you Peter! I must play a LOTR game, but not LOTRO/turbine. Hope either one of the two things or both:

1) FU christopher tolk, you pretty much are a big disgrace to your father. Allow games to be made with the LOTR IP

2) Warner bros sell the gaming right to someone else, best to be blizzard. Just make it a good pvp game :)

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

1/03/13 12:46:01 PM#5

If that happens it will probably end up being worse, not better

People thought Bioware would have done a better job at a Star Wars MMO than SOE, but not so.

LOTRO has definately a better rep than SWG and SWTOR put together. For an IP based game LOTRO as it is, is the best its going to get

 

  xalvi

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OP  1/03/13 1:17:06 PM#6
Originally posted by superniceguy

If that happens it will probably end up being worse, not better

People thought Bioware would have done a better job at a Star Wars MMO than SOE, but not so.

LOTRO has definately a better rep than SWG and SWTOR put together. For an IP based game LOTRO as it is, is the best its going to get

 

 

I know you underlined MMO, however you still can't ignore Bioware past. They fucked up big with activision as well, which meant a big failure with CoD franchise. Lots of people still didn't trust Bioware when making SWTOR. They use and abuse.

 

An IP based LOTR game can get better, i have no clue what you are saying. 

1) Blizzard has 10million players playing their games

2) LOTRO became a copy or "WoW clone", which made it a big fail. By saying if it were blizzard then it will end up being worse is just false. LOTRO copied them lol.

 

Yep, the only thing going for LOTRO is its IP nothing more. 

  User Deleted
1/03/13 1:24:15 PM#7

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

  MMOGamer71

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1/03/13 1:29:09 PM#8
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

^

This

The "issue" with MMO development is that there are TOO MANY suits and not enough gamers making games.

  xalvi

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OP  1/03/13 1:35:10 PM#9
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

 

The PvE experience was great with LOTRO, however the quality of the game went downhill after lothlorien patch. SoA and Moria was the only thing going for LOTRO.

 

1) Other than the grind of legenadary weapons, remember with Moria when it came out. They added fricking grindy skirmishes with lothlorien, another WoW feature.

2) Mirkwood totally killed the game.

3) The quality or content went way downhil. Look at Moria, it was amazing the best expansion i have ever seen in mmo history. Moria had tons of instances/raids. Then came mirkwood, RoI, RoR, comon those were a joke RoI was the biggest scandal of them all. 

4) FFS its 2013, this game's combat is from 07. Character animation is terrible. Slow paced combat (yes they added new combat system, mirkwood i think) but still really slow compared to other MMOs. While using skills, it just feels like you can dodge it. Look at GW2 combat or even WoW (so you don't say GW2 is new though), LOTRO is not even close with it.

5) PvP. dont get me started on that one lol.

  sfc1971

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1/03/13 1:38:51 PM#10
Originally posted by superniceguy

If that happens it will probably end up being worse, not better

People thought Bioware would have done a better job at a Star Wars MMO than SOE, but not so.

LOTRO has definately a better rep than SWG and SWTOR put together. For an IP based game LOTRO as it is, is the best its going to get

 

Lotro WAS pretty good. But they drawn it out to much, so many years and where are they now? Third of the book? Not even that I think.

The game suffered badly with Moria which just highlighted a common MMO failure, fighting supercharged trash mobs. Goblins are NOT a match for a full blown elf or lore-master (gandalf clone). And once you defeaten a dragon and a nazgul, fighting endless goblins just feels tacked on. Moria was too long a dungeon crawl with mobs that just didn't inspire. Then once you FINALLY got out of Moria, you were killed by a sparrows, piglets and fawns... HELLO? Defeater of the watcher, dragon, unnamed horrors and nazgul here. Can I PLEASE get some respect from the BUNNIES?

There is no need to remake Lotro.

Just let the 2nd and 3rd movie be done by another company. And preferably a company that keeps us on track of the story and doesn't invent whole areas on its own.

Moria spelled the end for Lotro, its gated content and legendary gear turned it into a WoW wannabe when it had risen to be a sleeper hit on NOT being a straight WoW clone (PvE centric, only one faction, PvP in a corner of the world you never needed to visit, non-gated content, all comers welcome raiding).

Moria changed it and lots left, desperately trying to find a MMO with little to no PvP, no hardcore raiding (as in gated content, you need gear X to enter dungeon Y where you get gear Z for etc etc) and just a relaxed attitude, oh I reached 50 oh lets do some content to help out others or just for fun.

There is a non hardcore raiding, non-pvp market out there. Just nobody providing it. SWTOR was a bit like it but compared to Lotro, SWTOR is a barren dead universe. 

  superniceguy

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NGE, LOTRO, STO, KOTOR, Lego Star Wars > NGE 2 (SWTOR). SWG>ALL. Above hopefully subject to change.

1/03/13 5:07:20 PM#11
Originally posted by sfc1971
Originally posted by superniceguy

If that happens it will probably end up being worse, not better

People thought Bioware would have done a better job at a Star Wars MMO than SOE, but not so.

LOTRO has definately a better rep than SWG and SWTOR put together. For an IP based game LOTRO as it is, is the best its going to get

 

Lotro WAS pretty good. But they drawn it out to much, so many years and where are they now? Third of the book? Not even that I think.

The game suffered badly with Moria which just highlighted a common MMO failure, fighting supercharged trash mobs. Goblins are NOT a match for a full blown elf or lore-master (gandalf clone). And once you defeaten a dragon and a nazgul, fighting endless goblins just feels tacked on. Moria was too long a dungeon crawl with mobs that just didn't inspire. Then once you FINALLY got out of Moria, you were killed by a sparrows, piglets and fawns... HELLO? Defeater of the watcher, dragon, unnamed horrors and nazgul here. Can I PLEASE get some respect from the BUNNIES?

There is no need to remake Lotro.

Just let the 2nd and 3rd movie be done by another company. And preferably a company that keeps us on track of the story and doesn't invent whole areas on its own.

Moria spelled the end for Lotro, its gated content and legendary gear turned it into a WoW wannabe when it had risen to be a sleeper hit on NOT being a straight WoW clone (PvE centric, only one faction, PvP in a corner of the world you never needed to visit, non-gated content, all comers welcome raiding).

Moria changed it and lots left, desperately trying to find a MMO with little to no PvP, no hardcore raiding (as in gated content, you need gear X to enter dungeon Y where you get gear Z for etc etc) and just a relaxed attitude, oh I reached 50 oh lets do some content to help out others or just for fun.

There is a non hardcore raiding, non-pvp market out there. Just nobody providing it. SWTOR was a bit like it but compared to Lotro, SWTOR is a barren dead universe. 

That seems the story of all IP  MMOs. SWG had Jedi in a time when there were no Jedi, and you had to go out killing spiders, nunas, kreetles instead of Sith, plus Jedi can be defeated by smugglers, and the same goes for SWTOR.

WOW works because Blizzard can mould the IP into whatever they want, without much repercussion. If Blizzard or any company end up doing a LOTR MMO then it will probably end up being the same, but the way the MMO industry is going at the momnet, it will be a short time affair. I have been with LOTRO at launch, and I am still playing it. SWTOR only released last year and I am done with it, the GW2 and TSW seem to have the same attention span too.

LOTRO is fine as it is, just continually give feedback to Turbine, to update accordingly

  cappytoi

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1/04/13 10:11:28 AM#12


Originally posted by xalvi

Originally posted by fat_taddler If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience.    @OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?      PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.      
 

The PvE experience was great with LOTRO, however the quality of the game went downhill after lothlorien patch. SoA and Moria was the only thing going for LOTRO.

 

1) Other than the grind of legenadary weapons, remember with Moria when it came out. They added fricking grindy skirmishes with lothlorien, another WoW feature.

2) Mirkwood totally killed the game.

3) The quality or content went way downhil. Look at Moria, it was amazing the best expansion i have ever seen in mmo history. Moria had tons of instances/raids. Then came mirkwood, RoI, RoR, comon those were a joke RoI was the biggest scandal of them all. 

4) FFS its 2013, this game's combat is from 07. Character animation is terrible. Slow paced combat (yes they added new combat system, mirkwood i think) but still really slow compared to other MMOs. While using skills, it just feels like you can dodge it. Look at GW2 combat or even WoW (so you don't say GW2 is new though), LOTRO is not even close with it.

5) PvP. dont get me started on that one lol.


1) I don't think WoW has a scaling instance system like skirmishes so I don't know how you say this is a WoW feature.

2) Actually not totally, the great thing about Mirkwood was many of the people still found doing the Moria stuff worthwile for rewards. Now, until they scale them up to level, those great instances are just going waste.

3) Totally agree.

4) I don't think the combat system will ever be changed to something fast paced or action. Generally, no game does this because it is a huge change. But mounted combat is a nice scenery change, I enjoyed it.

5) Over the years, Lotro never promised (officially or not) a solid PvP, never. I think no PvP made this game's PvE part very strong and I appreciate that.

Overall I am bored with RoR and stopped playing, especially after that city building stuff which takes ages and there was nothing worthwile to do in game. For me RoR failed because of its end-game and that released 3 instances are not really coming interesting to me now. But I am sure I'll turn back in 6-7 months.

  Destai

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1/04/13 7:24:14 PM#13
Originally posted by Wakygreek
I want either Blizzard or Anet to remake LOTRO.

Agreed. Either of those companies could have made a more polished game with better systems. 

  Thenextbigthing

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1/08/13 2:08:01 PM#14
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

 

I agree, these forums are full of ignorant people who don't play or haven't played for years. I'm having as much fun on Laurelin, in fact more fun, than ever, with all the changes since launch. It's as good as it's ever been with enough players to make it feel vibrant on my server. I've played most mmos since UO and lotro is head and shoulders above pretty much everthing, including new crap like ToR and TSW, when it comes to RP and immersion.

 

 

  asmkm22

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1/08/13 2:15:45 PM#15
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

I got sick of the game after they went F2P.  The constant reminders of how I can buy turbine points and stuff really got to me.  I played LotRO because it was a great PvE game, and it had some really great immersion.  F2P destroyed a lot of that.

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  Loktofeit

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1/08/13 2:20:19 PM#16
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

I got sick of the game after they went F2P.  The constant reminders of how I can buy turbine points and stuff really got to me.  I played LotRO because it was a great PvE game, and it had some really great immersion.  F2P destroyed a lot of that.

How does not having to pay for it ruin it?

  Slappy1

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1/08/13 2:22:36 PM#17
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

I got sick of the game after they went F2P.  The constant reminders of how I can buy turbine points and stuff really got to me.  I played LotRO because it was a great PvE game, and it had some really great immersion.  F2P destroyed a lot of that.

I don't know why this bother's some people.I've been playing the game since beta and I really don't even notice that there's a store.When I want something from the store I use the tp I get from vip and the one's earned in game.

To me ftp changed nothing about it being a great pve game,it's pretty easy for me to ignore the store.Much easier than a popup like EQ2 if you're not gold.

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  Siug

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1/08/13 2:30:30 PM#18
Well made Lord of the Rings MMO would be my number one for years. Turbine should be kept far away of course.
  asmkm22

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1/08/13 2:36:42 PM#19
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

I got sick of the game after they went F2P.  The constant reminders of how I can buy turbine points and stuff really got to me.  I played LotRO because it was a great PvE game, and it had some really great immersion.  F2P destroyed a lot of that.

How does not having to pay for it ruin it?

I have no problem paying for it.  I have a lifetime sub anyway, so that's irrelevant.  What I don't like is having prompts that come up periodically after gaining TP reminding me that I can visit the store to buy stuff.  The last thing that happened which pretty much caused me to stop playing (not that alone, just the last straw) was back when they added the clothing dummies to the cities whch, when you click them, opens the store browser.  It just rubbed me the wrong way, like I was playing second life or something.

The thing is, the game itself is fairly mediocre.  I only considered it good because of the setting.  Combat always felt sluggish, and I wasn't a big fan of how you have to grind skill usage to gain traits and stuff.

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  GwapoJosh

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1/08/13 2:37:11 PM#20
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by fat_taddler

If you're a fan of the books and the lore, LOTRO offers an absolutely amazing PvE experience. 

 

@OP What is it that you're looking for in a LOTR themed MMO that the current game doesn't offer or do well?   

 

PvP is really the only crappy aspect of the game in my opinion.  

 

 

I got sick of the game after they went F2P.  The constant reminders of how I can buy turbine points and stuff really got to me.  I played LotRO because it was a great PvE game, and it had some really great immersion.  F2P destroyed a lot of that.

This^^ pissed me off big time!  Constant cash shop spam everywhere in the game.. Leave me alone, I'm a VIP member damn it!

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