Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by bcbully

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by Torvaldr

Originally posted by InFlamestwo

Originally posted by Paradigm68
Sub + p2w cash shop?  Yeah I don't think so.

There's no subscription.

If you can only play an hour a day in this sort of game then a subscription is required.

Jesus on a stick,

This is only during CB2 as I just said last page on this very thread.

CB2 which is 8 more days. K? Comprehend? Got it now?

Don't get your big boy panties all in a twist.  I read what you wrote.  Where did they say it's only for their beta and what have they said their pricing plan is?  Just because you say something doesn't really mean anything, at all.

And let's be real here a paid closed beta is bullshit.  It's not a real beta if you're paying to play it.  It's a product they've sold.  You can slap "alpha" on it and it would still be crap.

Go to the site and read up a bit. I'm sure Grays frustration comes from all the info being a click away, if you're interested. 

http://www.ageofwushu.com/home/

I see that a lot with this game, a link to go read somewhere else instead of people just answering the question.  I looked at the front page and read the 3 question FAQ.  It doesn't say anything about 10 days free and one hour a day.  So it's obviously not just a click away.

The game sounded interesting, but if it's subscription or severely crippled and limited free play then I don't want to waste my time.

Front page, right hand corner saying "try it now"

" Try Age of Wushu for free! With the start of the beta Dec 20th all registered players can explore the grandeur of Age of Wushu –for free! – on a limited trial basis. 10 hours of free play, with 60 minutes per day after"

Too bad this is one of those games where the programmers apparantly can't figure out how to put in an invertable mouse.  

Not going to play a 'reflexes' type game, where I can't set up the controls the way I prefer.

 

Front page, right hand corner saying "try it now"

" Try Age of Wushu for free! With the start of the beta Dec 20th all registered players can explore the grandeur of Age of Wushu –for free! – on a limited trial basis. 10 hours of free play, with 60 minutes per day after"

http://www.ageofwushu.com/home/

I can't see that anywhere. I've got 'buy now' and 'download'.

Its Pay to play beta which is a joke to be honest. It didn't say you could only play for one hour a day until I'd read all the website introduction, downloaded the game, made an account, installed the game, then came the one hour pop-up when I first logged in, I'm annoyed because it wasted my time, if I knew it was a pay to play Beta frigging test I never would have downloaded it in the first place. I posted on their forums and there was a dozen people replied aggreeing with me saying it was basically shite and they should tell you this first, it all seems a little underhand to me,  get you to install their game, make and account and THEN tell you you have to pay, to Beta test?

If its not a Beta then don't tell me its a beta, its its an hour trial for 10 days then say so, don't try to trick people into installing the game and then tell them, the whole thing just comes of as dishonest trickery to get peoples money.

Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

Both are not really appealing to me.

Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

Both are not really appealing to me.

Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

The items it talks about are the vanity items,

the leveling up your skill for money is not cash shop related but related to the prayer event going on where you can pray and get random rewards including some exp pills I belive not useful to me as my exp is normally maxxed anyway and I have way too much cultivation points to spend unless I take a week from getting anymore.

The biggest potential gripe is the ability to do martial arts training for silver coins (which you can get with real money) this can be used to speed up the process. I bought 3 dollars worth of gold coins to test it out, it took about two hours off of my skill cultivation time. To me it is not worth it but yes I suppose someone could drop 300 dollars and speed it up considerably. Lotro has exp books in the cash shop, Eve has plex..it is almost become the norm that if you are dead set on spending real money you can get an advantage (Wow has gold farmers and multi account users).

You can do the same martial arts training with coins you earn from being a crafter, you don't have to be spending real money on it. I would like to see a cap on how many coins you can buy with real money per day or week or something but I doubt that would happen.

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Originally posted by GrayKodiak

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

Sounds good, though the cash shop affair worries me.

I'm wondering if the EU "Age of Wulin" version, which is managed by gpotato, will have a similar cash shop. I really hope not.

I am sure it will have vanity items in the cash shop. What about vanity items is cause for worry?

The chinese cash shop worries me, it has skills.

The massively article talks about paying to level up your skills and renting items for money.

Both are not really appealing to me.

Will still try the game even if the EU version has the same deal though.

Always keep in mind that even though someone levels skills by paying out cash quicker, does not mean they know how to properly use those skills or know what they are doing.  Rental items however I agree suck but that would not keep me from playing the game in any fashion.

Originally posted by Vyeth

I wish every MMO could say things like this:

There has been some confusion regarding the consequences for deleting a character that we want to clear up. Let me start by saying that Age of Wushu is an unconventional MMO in many ways. The focus isn't on leveling as quickly as possible to reach an endgame, but instead participating in a persistent and living world. There are many features that encourage this, from characters remaining in game while offline to the emphasis on a player-driven economy. Age of Wushu encourages a connection with a single character, and the journey from newcomer to master.

Simply put, the game was not made to support "alts." Each account is only allowed a single character for this reason. The choices you make are intended to have consequences.

 

The choices you make are intended to have consequences..

I have been enjoying my time in the Age of Wushu..

 

Recommended.

This is the part that grabbed my attention.

"Elite and Deluxe Edition Rewards will not be sent to characters created after a character is deleted and a new one is created.

VIP Status will remain, regardless of character deletion.

It's important to be absolutely sure before making any lasting decisions. If you need help or information on which school you should join, there are many resources available, including our very own Schools forum as well as the School Spotlights posted on our official site.

Additionally, you are free to use other Snail Accounts to create free trials and use the allotted 10 hours to evaluate a school before choosing on your main account."

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2101

Should have been a message to people when they were buying the game that this was what would happen. Either way people should be sent their elite and deluxe rewards regardless if they reroll, seems real shoddy to me.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

 

Always keep in mind that even though someone levels skills by paying out cash quicker, does not mean they know how to properly use those skills or know what they are doing.  Rental items however I agree suck but that would not keep me from playing the game in any fashion.

It will be wait and see to find out how much the cash shop will affect the balance in-game.

Must say I've heard the above argument many times, but usually it still turns out to be: pay = win...

Not gonna say it's like that in this game though, I haven't played it yet.  It would just be a shame to let something that seems so promising go the way of Allods, or to see the soul of the PvP compromised by microtransactions.

Originally posted by Tayah

Originally posted by Vyeth

I wish every MMO could say things like this:

There has been some confusion regarding the consequences for deleting a character that we want to clear up. Let me start by saying that Age of Wushu is an unconventional MMO in many ways. The focus isn't on leveling as quickly as possible to reach an endgame, but instead participating in a persistent and living world. There are many features that encourage this, from characters remaining in game while offline to the emphasis on a player-driven economy. Age of Wushu encourages a connection with a single character, and the journey from newcomer to master.

Simply put, the game was not made to support "alts." Each account is only allowed a single character for this reason. The choices you make are intended to have consequences.

 

The choices you make are intended to have consequences..

I have been enjoying my time in the Age of Wushu..

 

Recommended.

This is the part that grabbed my attention.

"Elite and Deluxe Edition Rewards will not be sent to characters created after a character is deleted and a new one is created.

VIP Status will remain, regardless of character deletion.

It's important to be absolutely sure before making any lasting decisions. If you need help or information on which school you should join, there are many resources available, including our very own Schools forum as well as the School Spotlights posted on our official site.

Additionally, you are free to use other Snail Accounts to create free trials and use the allotted 10 hours to evaluate a school before choosing on your main account."

http://www.ageofwushu.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2101

Should have been a message to people when they were buying the game that this was what would happen. Either way people should be sent their elite and deluxe rewards regardless if they reroll, seems real shoddy to me.

What items do you really loose? A temporary mount for deluxe and?

I never thought the "junk" it gave out was that good so I never understood the desire to keep it, the game give you a temp mount at the start regardless...the old horse, so you really don't even loose that you just get a different one. You keep the gold and the VIP.

I think you get some armor that isn't that good as well, I don't know I just think if I wanted to swap schools the few trinkets it gave me wouldn't stop me one bit.

edit: The lost time in character development might give me some pause though.

Originally posted by Rilman

 

Front page, right hand corner saying "try it now"

" Try Age of Wushu for free! With the start of the beta Dec 20th all registered players can explore the grandeur of Age of Wushu –for free! – on a limited trial basis. 10 hours of free play, with 60 minutes per day after"

http://www.ageofwushu.com/home/

 

I can't see that anywhere. I've got 'buy now' and 'download'.

Its Pay to play beta which is a joke to be honest. It didn't say you could only play for one hour a day until I'd read all the website introduction, downloaded the game, made an account, installed the game, then came the one hour pop-up when I first logged in, I'm annoyed because it wasted my time, if I knew it was a pay to play Beta frigging test I never would have downloaded it in the first place. I posted on their forums and there was a dozen people replied aggreeing with me saying it was basically shite and they should tell you this first, it all seems a little underhand to me,  get you to install their game, make and account and THEN tell you you have to pay, to Beta test?

If its not a Beta then don't tell me its a beta, its its an hour trial for 10 days then say so, don't try to trick people into installing the game and then tell them, the whole thing just comes of as dishonest trickery to get peoples money.

Originally posted by SlyLoK
Wait.. Isnt this game Age of Wulin? That game is terrible. Where are all of these " fans " coming from?

I am in florida.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Always keep in mind that even though someone levels skills by paying out cash quicker, does not mean they know how to properly use those skills or know what they are doing.  Rental items however I agree suck but that would not keep me from playing the game in any fashion.

For what I have seen, everything in game (either sold by an NPC or a crafter) has durability and when this gets to zero the item disappears. They do this to keep the economy from stagnating (SWG had a similar system). I believe the cash shop items are timed for similar reasons

Originally posted by Fdzzaigl

It will be wait and see to find out how much the cash shop will affect the balance in-game.

Must say I've heard the above argument many times, but usually it still turns out to be: pay = win...

Not gonna say it's like that in this game though, I haven't played it yet.  It would just be a shame to let something that seems so promising go the way of Allods, or to see the soul of the PvP compromised by microtransactions.

Right now the only stuff in the cash shop is cosmetic or mounts. Not sure if this is going to change. They might have potions and pills too (to speed up exp conversion rate) but you can get those in game too

@ SlyLok

I'm from Sweden.