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  Scarfe

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12/30/12 9:27:44 AM#81
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro

Obviously he is slightly confused about how movies work.

Movies can never replace the depth of books, they simply arent long enough. The LOTR movies could never have worked any other way.

Did they miss some stuff I wish they hadn't? Sure. I mean, Tom Bombadil and the barrows was one of my favourite parts.

Did the story not work because of it? No.

You know Tom Bombadil, I have actually had dreams were he just turns up at the end and kicks the shit out of everyone.  What a great character.  Refuses Frodo's ring, not even Samwise could do that. 

 The whole part would have been very confusing to people unaware of Tolkien's world at the start of the first movie though. I agree though, great character.

At least acknowledge my inuendo. 

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  User Deleted
12/30/12 9:33:27 AM#82
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro

Obviously he is slightly confused about how movies work.

Movies can never replace the depth of books, they simply arent long enough. The LOTR movies could never have worked any other way.

Did they miss some stuff I wish they hadn't? Sure. I mean, Tom Bombadil and the barrows was one of my favourite parts.

Did the story not work because of it? No.

You know Tom Bombadil, I have actually had dreams were he just turns up at the end and kicks the shit out of everyone.  What a great character.  Refuses Frodo's ring, not even Samwise could do that. 

 The whole part would have been very confusing to people unaware of Tolkien's world at the start of the first movie though. I agree though, great character.

At least acknowledge my inuendo. 

 Haha never! I did get it, and your strange dreams of him kicking the crap out of everyone dispite being the ultimate pacifist. I just chose to ignore them :P

  Scarfe

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12/30/12 9:38:26 AM#83
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro

Obviously he is slightly confused about how movies work.

Movies can never replace the depth of books, they simply arent long enough. The LOTR movies could never have worked any other way.

Did they miss some stuff I wish they hadn't? Sure. I mean, Tom Bombadil and the barrows was one of my favourite parts.

Did the story not work because of it? No.

You know Tom Bombadil, I have actually had dreams were he just turns up at the end and kicks the shit out of everyone.  What a great character.  Refuses Frodo's ring, not even Samwise could do that. 

 The whole part would have been very confusing to people unaware of Tolkien's world at the start of the first movie though. I agree though, great character.

At least acknowledge my inuendo. 

 Haha never! I did get it, and your strange dreams of him kicking the crap out of everyone dispite being the ultimate pacifist. I just chose to ignore them :P

I kinda thought somewhere in my head that it would have been cool if he saw the necessity of violence when all was lost and just went ape shit?  (also he was such an annoying twat he could turn Ghandi to violence) But then I also thought they should have just got on that dam eagle at the beginning, flown over the volcano and dropped the ring in.  Bam 20 minute film. 

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  User Deleted
12/30/12 9:43:57 AM#84
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro

Obviously he is slightly confused about how movies work.

Movies can never replace the depth of books, they simply arent long enough. The LOTR movies could never have worked any other way.

Did they miss some stuff I wish they hadn't? Sure. I mean, Tom Bombadil and the barrows was one of my favourite parts.

Did the story not work because of it? No.

You know Tom Bombadil, I have actually had dreams were he just turns up at the end and kicks the shit out of everyone.  What a great character.  Refuses Frodo's ring, not even Samwise could do that. 

 The whole part would have been very confusing to people unaware of Tolkien's world at the start of the first movie though. I agree though, great character.

At least acknowledge my inuendo. 

 Haha never! I did get it, and your strange dreams of him kicking the crap out of everyone dispite being the ultimate pacifist. I just chose to ignore them :P

I kinda thought somewhere in my head that it would have been cool if he saw the necessity of violence when all was lost and just went ape shit?  But then I also thought they should have just got on that dam eagle at the beginning, flown over the volcano and dropped the ring in.  Bam 20 minute film. 

 Yeah, I think everyone has had that thought. Gandalf was one nasty bastard. Get the little people to walk all the way to Mordor. It will be fun he said....

Although realistically the Eagles probably would have been destroyed if they neared Mordor before Sauron was destroyed. The hobbits only got in through luck and the fact that Sauron was distracted by Aragorn.

  Po_gg

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12/30/12 9:44:48 AM#85
Tom as the ultimate pacifist... that's why he tried to kick the stone troll in the butt? :)
  Scarfe

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Joined: 12/21/12
Posts: 287

12/30/12 9:46:01 AM#86
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by evilastro

Obviously he is slightly confused about how movies work.

Movies can never replace the depth of books, they simply arent long enough. The LOTR movies could never have worked any other way.

Did they miss some stuff I wish they hadn't? Sure. I mean, Tom Bombadil and the barrows was one of my favourite parts.

Did the story not work because of it? No.

You know Tom Bombadil, I have actually had dreams were he just turns up at the end and kicks the shit out of everyone.  What a great character.  Refuses Frodo's ring, not even Samwise could do that. 

 The whole part would have been very confusing to people unaware of Tolkien's world at the start of the first movie though. I agree though, great character.

At least acknowledge my inuendo. 

 Haha never! I did get it, and your strange dreams of him kicking the crap out of everyone dispite being the ultimate pacifist. I just chose to ignore them :P

I kinda thought somewhere in my head that it would have been cool if he saw the necessity of violence when all was lost and just went ape shit?  But then I also thought they should have just got on that dam eagle at the beginning, flown over the volcano and dropped the ring in.  Bam 20 minute film. 

 Yeah, I think everyone has had that thought. Gandalf was one nasty bastard. Get the little people to walk all the way to Mordor. It will be fun he said....

Although realistically the Eagles probably would have been destroyed if they neared Mordor before Sauron was destroyed. The hobbits only got in through luck and the fact that Sauron was distracted by Aragorn.

haha excuses excuses.  And you are also interrupting Spandau Ballet, which is a cardinal offence in my house.  Messing. 

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  kadepsyson

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12/30/12 9:51:02 AM#87
Originally posted by chelantypical american

Breaking News: Movie Differs From Book

 

Also, if the movies inspire some people to buy the books (Hobbit + LOTR) then is that so bad?  More people enjoying the story as it was written?

 

Of course that's probably just me being an American.  Sorry OP I'll try to complain more.

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  Flaming_MMO

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12/30/12 9:52:49 AM#88

His opinion is meaningless to me.  Did he ever even write a book?  Did any of the Tolkien kids/grandkids take up J.R.R.'s legacy and start writing more books in the Lord Of the Rings universe? 

I would take his opinion seriously if he was like Brian Herbert (Frank Herberts son) who actually continued writing more Dune books (and still writes them) after Frank Herbert died.

  Doogiehowser

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12/30/12 9:53:11 AM#89
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by grafh

Money isnt everything to some people. I think i would not support any director who would change my story from what it was, to an action flick.

The Hobbit is my favorite book, and i dont want to see the movie cause i know it will dissapoint me if i compare it to the book.

Then again thats just my personal opinion. 

Money isn't everything for some people because those some people already have it.

so true, so true... do you look like that old geezer out of karate kid?

Nah, i am 28 year old guy with 6 packs and killer looks. But i do use my brain from time to time. When package is so baautiful people stop caring what is inside. And i am as gorgeous from inside as i am from outside..

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
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  Scarfe

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Joined: 12/21/12
Posts: 287

12/30/12 9:54:54 AM#90
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by grafh

Money isnt everything to some people. I think i would not support any director who would change my story from what it was, to an action flick.

The Hobbit is my favorite book, and i dont want to see the movie cause i know it will dissapoint me if i compare it to the book.

Then again thats just my personal opinion. 

Money isn't everything for some people because those some people already have it.

so true, so true... do you look like that old geezer out of karate kid?

Nah, i am 28 year old guy with 6 packs and killer looks. But i do use my brain from time to time. When package is so baautiful people stop caring what is inside. And i am as gorgeous from inside as i am from outside..

If you're not drinking them all can I have one?

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  Flaming_MMO

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12/30/12 9:55:43 AM#91
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by grafh

Money isnt everything to some people. I think i would not support any director who would change my story from what it was, to an action flick.

The Hobbit is my favorite book, and i dont want to see the movie cause i know it will dissapoint me if i compare it to the book.

Then again thats just my personal opinion. 

Money isn't everything for some people because those some people already have it.

so true, so true... do you look like that old geezer out of karate kid?

Nah, i am 28 year old guy with 6 packs and killer looks. But i do use my brain from time to time. When package is so baautiful people stop caring what is inside. And i am as gorgeous from inside as i am from outside..

 Im going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a Buddhist with that kind of humility.

  Icewhite

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12/30/12 10:02:53 AM#92
Originally posted by Flaming_MMO

 Im going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a Buddhist with that kind of humility.

When's the last time you met a humble gamer?

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Doogiehowser

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12/30/12 10:03:06 AM#93
Originally posted by Flaming_MMO
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by grafh

Money isnt everything to some people. I think i would not support any director who would change my story from what it was, to an action flick.

The Hobbit is my favorite book, and i dont want to see the movie cause i know it will dissapoint me if i compare it to the book.

Then again thats just my personal opinion. 

Money isn't everything for some people because those some people already have it.

so true, so true... do you look like that old geezer out of karate kid?

Nah, i am 28 year old guy with 6 packs and killer looks. But i do use my brain from time to time. When package is so baautiful people stop caring what is inside. And i am as gorgeous from inside as i am from outside..

 Im going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a Buddhist with that kind of humility.

Since Buddhism teaches about loving your authentic self. I would say i am very much in line with the teachings. 

 

 

Originally posted by Scarfe
If you're not drinking them all can I have one?

 

Sure you can have my protien shake.

"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell

"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
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  Scarfe

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Joined: 12/21/12
Posts: 287

12/30/12 10:07:22 AM#94
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Flaming_MMO
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by grafh

Money isnt everything to some people. I think i would not support any director who would change my story from what it was, to an action flick.

The Hobbit is my favorite book, and i dont want to see the movie cause i know it will dissapoint me if i compare it to the book.

Then again thats just my personal opinion. 

Money isn't everything for some people because those some people already have it.

so true, so true... do you look like that old geezer out of karate kid?

Nah, i am 28 year old guy with 6 packs and killer looks. But i do use my brain from time to time. When package is so baautiful people stop caring what is inside. And i am as gorgeous from inside as i am from outside..

 Im going to go out on a limb here and say you are not a Buddhist with that kind of humility.

Since Buddhism teaches about loving your authentic self. I would say i am very much in line with the teachings. 

 

 

Originally posted by Scarfe
If you're not drinking them all can I have one?

 

Sure you can have my protien shake.

This guy belongs in a museum, priceless.  Where you from Arnie?

currently playing: DDO, AOC, WoT, P101

  User Deleted
12/30/12 10:09:34 AM#95
Originally posted by Flaming_MMO

His opinion is meaningless to me.  Did he ever even write a book?  Did any of the Tolkien kids/grandkids take up J.R.R.'s legacy and start writing more books in the Lord Of the Rings universe? 

I would take his opinion seriously if he was like Brian Herbert (Frank Herberts son) who actually continued writing more Dune books (and still writes them) after Frank Herbert died.

 Christopher was the editor of all his fathers posthumous work. Notably he put together The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, The History of Middle-earth and The Children of Húrin from his fathers old notes. He also helped his father prepare LOTR.

While I think his opinions on the movies is silly, he is undoubtably the most knowledgeable living person regarding his fathers work.

  Scarfe

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Posts: 287

12/30/12 10:11:55 AM#96
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by Flaming_MMO

His opinion is meaningless to me.  Did he ever even write a book?  Did any of the Tolkien kids/grandkids take up J.R.R.'s legacy and start writing more books in the Lord Of the Rings universe? 

I would take his opinion seriously if he was like Brian Herbert (Frank Herberts son) who actually continued writing more Dune books (and still writes them) after Frank Herbert died.

 Christopher was the editor of all his fathers posthumous work. Notably he put together The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, The History of Middle-earth and The Children of Húrin from his fathers old notes. He also helped his father prepare LOTR.

While I think his opinions on the movies is silly, he is undoubtably the most knowledgeable living person regarding his fathers work.

Children of Hurin, thank you.  I think it is the only book I have never finished, and I include Barbara Cartland in that list (30 minutes, a little longer that the time it took her to write it). 

And also, I had a mate (aquaintence) who learned Klingon- people have spent a lot of time on JR Hartley. 

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  Grunty

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12/30/12 10:12:48 AM#97
Originally posted by Scarfe

Didn't he pull together that god awful half finished book his gramps wrote?  Its on my bookshelf but can't be bothered to go to it to check the title.  Think he should have some kudos for boring us all to tears. 

Went to check but wasn't there, think it is the first book I have ever burned, ironically F451 was there. 

The Silmarillion? I still have it. I still can't get past the first 30 pages. Just thinking about makes me sleepy.

  Scarfe

Apprentice Member

Joined: 12/21/12
Posts: 287

12/30/12 10:13:56 AM#98
Originally posted by Grunty
Originally posted by Scarfe

Didn't he pull together that god awful half finished book his gramps wrote?  Its on my bookshelf but can't be bothered to go to it to check the title.  Think he should have some kudos for boring us all to tears. 

Went to check but wasn't there, think it is the first book I have ever burned, ironically F451 was there. 

The Silmarillion? I still have it. I still can't get past the first 30 pages. Just thinking about makes me sleepy.

No, read above, can't be arsed writing it again.  Not in a rude way, could have written it again now, nvm above. 

currently playing: DDO, AOC, WoT, P101

  Grunty

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Joined: 4/06/04
Posts: 6649

12/30/12 10:16:22 AM#99
Originally posted by Scarfe
Originally posted by Grunty
Originally posted by Scarfe

Didn't he pull together that god awful half finished book his gramps wrote?  Its on my bookshelf but can't be bothered to go to it to check the title.  Think he should have some kudos for boring us all to tears. 

Went to check but wasn't there, think it is the first book I have ever burned, ironically F451 was there. 

The Silmarillion? I still have it. I still can't get past the first 30 pages. Just thinking about makes me sleepy.

No, read above, can't be arsed writing it again.  Not in a rude way, could have written it again now, nvm above. 

Well as I said just thinking about it makes me sleepy and I've only been awake for an hour.

  Flaming_MMO

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Joined: 2/13/12
Posts: 141

12/30/12 10:18:51 AM#100

"When's the last time you met a humble gamer?"

 

That is a question I am unable to answer.  I am sure there are some out there, but they probably would not post much to begin with, if at all.

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