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  Karteli

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12/28/12 5:48:00 PM#41
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by NBlitz
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How do you pronounce archeology and archetype?

And no, those two words are not kind of like when you have a pain, an "ACHE" in your body or joints where the "E" is silent".

Good argument, BTW.

 

In your examples, the "e" helps flow the words together so they can be pronounced. Otherwise you would get "Archology", or "Archtype".

There are people who do say ark-type. I can live with that too. No matter how wrong they may be.

 

ArcheAge doesn't need that kind of support.  The "E" can reamin silent, with the game title flowing quite nicely.

 

If you add that extra "E" sound to the name, it doesn't flow.

"ARK-E-AGE" ... it really doesn't flow like "ARK-AGE".

 

Although if you say "ARK-E-AGE" out loud it sounds funny .. say it .. you won't even recognize your own voice.

Here we go. I can agree with this, and why the majority (and the devs) would prefer it to remain silent.

 

I'm stubborn :p I actually like the way it sounds with the base word sounding like arkee. Beginning, origin, sovereignty. And if someone asks why I pronounce it the way I do, I can explain.

Cheers!

 

It's obvious we're both excited about ArcheAge.  The real answer to our issue is going to be how XLGames pronounces their game in English.

 

Then we'll have answer.

 

It could be nothing we could have imagined though .. pronounced "ALK-A-ALGE"... :-)

 

Say it really, really fast.  That's how it may be pronounced.

 

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  aspekx

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12/28/12 5:53:15 PM#42
Originally posted by LlexX
We had a debate about this already on another forum, firstly we thought it should be pronounced as arch+age, then an official response came, that it should be pronounced as ark+age, like if you would say dARK+AGE without the "d" letter.

this is actually appropriate. the adaptation of the greek word into english does not carry with it all the implied spelling and pronounciation requirements from ancient or even 'koine' greek.

the 'e' on the end of the word 'arch' is what implies the harsh 'k' sound as opposed to the softer 'ch' (as in 'charlie').

thus we have the pronounciation 'ark' followed by the proper pronounciation of the word 'age', giving us archeage.

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OP  12/28/12 5:57:23 PM#43
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by NBlitz
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How do you pronounce archeology and archetype?

And no, those two words are not kind of like when you have a pain, an "ACHE" in your body or joints where the "E" is silent".

Good argument, BTW.

 

In your examples, the "e" helps flow the words together so they can be pronounced. Otherwise you would get "Archology", or "Archtype".

There are people who do say ark-type. I can live with that too. No matter how wrong they may be.

 

ArcheAge doesn't need that kind of support.  The "E" can reamin silent, with the game title flowing quite nicely.

 

If you add that extra "E" sound to the name, it doesn't flow.

"ARK-E-AGE" ... it really doesn't flow like "ARK-AGE".

 

Although if you say "ARK-E-AGE" out loud it sounds funny .. say it .. you won't even recognize your own voice.

Here we go. I can agree with this, and why the majority (and the devs) would prefer it to remain silent.

 

I'm stubborn :p I actually like the way it sounds with the base word sounding like arkee. Beginning, origin, sovereignty. And if someone asks why I pronounce it the way I do, I can explain.

Cheers!

 

It's obvious we're both excited about ArcheAge. 

I'm this excited but holding it in: 

The real answer to our issue is going to be how XLGames pronounces their game in English.

 

Then we'll have answer.

Definitely!

 

It could be nothing we could have imagined though .. pronounced "ALK-A-ALGE"... :-)

LOL. Something I will have to live with :p Regardless, it won't stop me from throwing my money at them!

 

Say it really, really fast.  That's how it may be pronounced.

I just did! Almost made a Xena shout sound.

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OP  12/28/12 6:00:55 PM#44
Originally posted by chelan
Originally posted by LlexX
We had a debate about this already on another forum, firstly we thought it should be pronounced as arch+age, then an official response came, that it should be pronounced as ark+age, like if you would say dARK+AGE without the "d" letter.

this is actually appropriate. the adaptation of the greek word into english does not carry with it all the implied spelling and pronounciation requirements from ancient or even 'koine' greek.

the 'e' on the end of the word 'arch' is what implies the harsh 'k' sound as opposed to the softer 'ch' (as in 'charlie').

This makes sense. I think we all can agree on this.

 

thus we have the pronounciation 'ark' followed by the proper pronounciation of the word 'age', giving us archeage.

I don't agree that this is correct. It's not consistent with the other words that also contain arche+(rest of the word) like archetype, archaeology/archeology, archespore. 

If what they intended was for it to be pronounced as 'arc' then why go through the trouble of making it all fancy with 'che'. It doesn't make sense anymore to me, now that I've let the thought sink in.

 

We'll see if it stays the same when it's localized, like Karteli mentioned earlier.

 

The name has to mean something, unless they go with the "oh it's a made up word ingame for a god or something." If it adheres to the earthly definition then that explanation holds no water.

  Recon48

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12/28/12 10:24:08 PM#45
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by NBlitz
()

How do you pronounce archeology and archetype?

And no, those two words are not kind of like when you have a pain, an "ACHE" in your body or joints where the "E" is silent".

Good argument, BTW.

 

In your examples, the "e" helps flow the words together so they can be pronounced. Otherwise you would get "Archology", or "Archtype".

There are people who do say ark-type. I can live with that too. No matter how wrong they may be.

 

ArcheAge doesn't need that kind of support.  The "E" can reamin silent, with the game title flowing quite nicely.

 

If you add that extra "E" sound to the name, it doesn't flow.

"ARK-E-AGE" ... it really doesn't flow like "ARK-AGE".

 

Although if you say "ARK-E-AGE" out loud it sounds funny .. say it .. you won't even recognize your own voice.

Here we go. I can agree with this, and why the majority (and the devs) would prefer it to remain silent.

 

I'm stubborn :p I actually like the way it sounds with the base word sounding like arkee. Beginning, origin, sovereignty. And if someone asks why I pronounce it the way I do, I can explain.

Cheers!

 

It's obvious we're both excited about ArcheAge.  The real answer to our issue is going to be how XLGames pronounces their game in English.

 

Then we'll have answer.

 

It could be nothing we could have imagined though .. pronounced "ALK-A-ALGE"... :-)

 

 

I just watched a new video on the archeage YouTube channel debuting the Open beta trailer.   Jake Song speaks at the beginning of the video for about 30 sec and pronounces it as "Ark-age".   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKCMmRveblQ  (0:13 & 0:21) 

  just1opinion

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12/29/12 9:06:21 AM#46
Originally posted by LlexX
We had a debate about this already on another forum, firstly we thought it should be pronounced as arch+age, then an official response came, that it should be pronounced as ark+age, like if you would say dARK+AGE without the "d" letter.

 

This is accurate, the OP is mistaken.

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OP  12/29/12 9:23:36 AM#47
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by LlexX
We had a debate about this already on another forum, firstly we thought it should be pronounced as arch+age, then an official response came, that it should be pronounced as ark+age, like if you would say dARK+AGE without the "d" letter.

 

This is accurate, the OP is mistaken.

In response to that I later wrote:

 

thus we have the pronounciation 'ark' followed by the proper pronounciation of the word 'age', giving us archeage.

I don't agree that this is correct. It's not consistent with the other words that also contain arche+(rest of the word) like archetype, archaeology/archeology, archespore. 

If what they intended was for it to be pronounced as 'arc' then why go through the trouble of making it all fancy with 'che'. It doesn't make sense anymore to me, now that I've let the thought sink in.

We'll see if it stays the same when it's localized, like Karteli mentioned earlier.

The name has to mean something, unless they go with the "oh it's a made up word ingame for a god or something." If it adheres to the earthly definition then that explanation holds no water.

  Recon48

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12/30/12 11:25:10 AM#48
Originally posted by NBlitz
 

I don't agree that this is correct. It's not consistent with the other words that also contain arche+(rest of the word) like archetype, archaeology/archeology, archespore. 

If what they intended was for it to be pronounced as 'arc' then why go through the trouble of making it all fancy with 'che'. It doesn't make sense anymore to me, now that I've let the thought sink in.

We'll see if it stays the same when it's localized, like Karteli mentioned earlier.

The name has to mean something, unless they go with the "oh it's a made up word ingame for a god or something." If it adheres to the earthly definition then that explanation holds no water.

 

But it is what it is - a made up proper noun. Since there's no definition to be found, the word 'Archeage' would ultimately be up to to the developers to provide its pronunciation. One reason to not be too critical of it's correctness is that we're debating a word that fits Romantic etymology so it isn't only subject to US English pronunciation, even though US English has a few of  its own counter-intuitive pronunciation anomalies like 'Wednesday'. In UK English there are loads proper nouns/names like 'Worcester' (woos′·ter) that aren't pronounced like they would appear to be, or where the same name will have different pronunciations in US vs UK like 'Belvoir' (bE′·ver in UK, belv-war in US). Personally, I think the fancy 'Arche' spelling kind of gives it more of a olde world vibe.

  Onomas

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Sandbox is your only hope for a decent mmo ;)

12/30/12 11:34:14 AM#49
Originally posted by NBlitz

Originally posted by tom_gore

I'm pretty sure it's pronounced: "Sandbox Messiah"

Sandpark :p

 

No such thing

  GoldenArrow

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12/30/12 11:38:03 AM#50
Originally posted by Onomas
Originally posted by NBlitz

Originally posted by tom_gore

I'm pretty sure it's pronounced: "Sandbox Messiah"

Sandpark :p

 

No such thing

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  Grunty

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12/30/12 12:37:58 PM#51
Originally posted by FromHell

Archeology

ArcheAge

 

Ar-ke-olo-gee

Ar-ke-age

 

what's the probelm?

Archetype

  korent1991

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12/30/12 12:47:48 PM#52

I see this is not one of ours every day topics and I'm glad I see it!

So...

I know it should be pronounced as arkee (ish)...

But I do not like how that sounds, so I just pronounce it as: ARKAGE 

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  Drakynn

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12/30/12 12:53:46 PM#53

For a serious answer,unlike my last post,it probably should be pronounced Ark-ee-age but english is full of exceptions to every rule.Which is why it's a hard language for outsiders to learn compared to other languages.

However I believe most peopel will pronounce it Ark-age because it rolls off the tongue better and common consensus will rule out in the end.

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OP  12/31/12 4:29:18 AM#54

Originally posted by Onomas
Originally posted by NBlitz

Originally posted by tom_gore

I'm pretty sure it's pronounced: "Sandbox Messiah"

Sandpark :p

 

No such thing

I did not coin the term anyways  As the game nears launch, we'll see the term come up more often.

The game is a hybrid, as stated by XL Games and Jake Song himself. 

Paraphrasing: The sandbox elements are not entirely dominant.

 

Originally posted by korent1991

I see this is not one of ours every day topics and I'm glad I see it!

I'm glad you liked it! I was expecting more negative comments but all in all, aside from a couple, it was very polite and we have something better to go by now. I shall be changing the OP to reflect it.

 

So...

I know it should be pronounced as arkee (ish)...

But I do not like how that sounds, so I just pronounce it as: ARKAGE (without the gayish EE's).

Good comment.

Could've done without the last bit. Even though gays are less gender role compliant, it does not mean we are all effeminate.  Just a little nitpick. You might not be fully aware how certain words come across to someone else.

 

Originally posted by Drakynn

For a serious answer,unlike my last post,it probably should be pronounced Ark-ee-age but english is full of exceptions to every rule.Which is why it's a hard language for outsiders to learn compared to other languages.

However I believe most peopel will pronounce it Ark-age because it rolls off the tongue better and common consensus will rule out in the end.

I think this is what it'll boil down to. Not because it's right, but because it rolls better off the tongue and consensus does dictate a lot in our society (e.g. 'ark-type' pronunciation being accepted).

Like I stated earlier,  I'll change the OP to reflect it.

  korent1991

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12/31/12 6:12:26 AM#55
Originally posted by NBlitz

Good comment.

Could've done without the last bit. Even though gays are less gender role compliant, it does not mean we are all effeminate.  Just a little nitpick. You might not be fully aware how certain words come across to someone else.

 

yea, wasn't really aware of it when I typed it :D 

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  edenzero

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3/08/13 4:11:21 PM#56
i pronounce it like google translator does, lol
  UnseelieCour

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6/11/13 5:22:20 AM#57

I agree with the OP, despite what the devs may have posted in a forum somewhere. I'm not saying I disagree with what the devs may have written, I've just been listening to them pronounce it in videos and they definitely no not pronounce it "ark-age". They don't pronounce it "ar-ke-age" either, which they should be if they are spelling it Archeage (OP is 100% correct on that).

 

What I hear is "ar-kage". I think it is a localisation issue and it should have been written Archaege, with the "e" after the "a". That, to me, would suggest a pronunciation closest to what the devs say.

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6/11/13 6:03:56 AM#58
Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by LlexX
We had a debate about this already on another forum, firstly we thought it should be pronounced as arch+age, then an official response came, that it should be pronounced as ark+age, like if you would say dARK+AGE without the "d" letter.

 

This is accurate, the OP is mistaken.

In response to that I later wrote:

thus we have the pronounciation 'ark' followed by the proper pronounciation of the word 'age', giving us archeage.

I don't agree that this is correct. It's not consistent with the other words that also contain arche+(rest of the word) like archetype, archaeology/archeology, archespore.

I'm not sure how you pronounce those words, but I'm positive you pronounce them incorrectly.

This is a new low in gamer arrogance, even for this crowd.

Dev: "This is how we pronounce the name of our game."

MMORPG.com poster: "You're wrong."

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  Novic2

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6/11/13 6:41:42 AM#59
ITT: Grammar nazi circlejerk
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6/11/13 7:50:38 AM#60
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Dev: "This is how we pronounce the name of our game."

MMORPG.com poster: "You're wrong."

It's clearly Ar- Cheage.  :sagenod:

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