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  botrytis

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12/22/12 8:54:23 PM#101
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by Nightgroper

Originally posted by Eir_S


Originally posted by Wizardry


Originally posted by Scarfe
In large part I think it is a back lash against a) the hype stirred up largely by Anet, and b) the slightly absurdly outstanding reviews it has received. 


^^^^  This.

 

I could write a long speech about Anet from start until now,but this couple of lines is all that needs to be said.

It is really not about GW2,you get what you pay for,but imo ANET is a classless act.

 



I don't get it.  Stirring up hype for your game is bad  now?  What does Scarfe's post have to do with anything negative on ANet's part?  Maybe I'm not seeing what you see.

You're damn right hype is bad. You should feel ashamed for showing excitement for anything. Everyone should be wearing their turtleneck sweaters, smoking in the corner, and scoffing at any project by any large company.

Showing excitement for something and "hype" are two very different things.

 

Showing excitement shows someone is looking forward to a game without placing said game upon a pedestal and worshiping the very ground it covers. Someone showing excitement for a game can be objective and see if it has any flaws.

Hype is all out 100% praise for a game, no room for error. There are lots of links involved to quotes from devs and producers about what the game "is looking to do" but rarely any concrete facts. Terms are loosely used so the inferences can supply what the developers do not want to say outright. The game, and subsequently, the publishing company can do no wrong, in the eyes of the hype train riders. Remember the A-Net manifesto hype? What did it really say, specifically?

Many times, attacks are made, pre-release, on other players asking simple questions for clarification or detail about the upcoming game. "It's still in beta." is the usual answer for any concerns from a hype-train rider. Nevermind that the game has been in development for years and the beta is the final step before release, so major concerns will NOT be made prior to release. Beta concerns are all about spit and polish.

Hype leads to disappointment 99.9% of the time. Nothing ever made, nor ever to be made will live up to the hype. If I ever made a game, I would hope to all that is holy that nobody started a hype-train on it. Then again, I wouldn't make a game that soars at the top for 1-4 months and fades fast, which is what the hype-train is good for. Hype gets people to buy. Hype does not keep them playing.

No. Hype is bad. In every sense of the word, hype is bad.

Genuine excitement for an upcoming game is great! Just keep a level head and never get blinded. Don't hang on every word uttered by a developer, but rather read what they say and ask questions.

The problem is people are overreacting to what the developers say. Take all the archage hype - people have read so much into the game, we have no clue as to want it really will be.

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
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12/22/12 8:58:22 PM#102
Originally posted by botrytis
< SNIP >

The problem is people are overreacting to what the developers say. Take all the archage hype - people have read so much into the game, we have no clue as to want it really will be.

If you read the ArcheAge forums, and all the fan posts with literally hundreds of videos, you would doubt even your own statement.

 

It just went into it's last beta, and you say people still don't know what it will be? /puzzle

 

Last I checked, a game in beta is pretty final .. minor tweaks here and there, but the foundation is set in stone.

 

 

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2542

12/22/12 9:00:53 PM#103
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by botrytis
< SNIP >

The problem is people are overreacting to what the developers say. Take all the archage hype - people have read so much into the game, we have no clue as to want it really will be.

If you read the ArcheAge forums, and all the fan posts with literally hundreds of videos, you would doubt even your own statement.

 

It just went into it's last beta, and you say people still don't know what it will be? /puzzle

 

Last I checked, a game in beta is pretty final .. minor tweaks here and there, but the foundation is set in stone.

 

 

YUP - because oft times, games that come from Korea to the America and EU are totally different than what it is in Korea. People keep keep saying it will be a great sandbox, etc - we have no clue.

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  Karteli

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Joined: 7/09/12
Posts: 2704

12/22/12 9:07:39 PM#104
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by botrytis
< SNIP >

The problem is people are overreacting to what the developers say. Take all the archage hype - people have read so much into the game, we have no clue as to want it really will be.

If you read the ArcheAge forums, and all the fan posts with literally hundreds of videos, you would doubt even your own statement.

 

It just went into it's last beta, and you say people still don't know what it will be? /puzzle

 

Last I checked, a game in beta is pretty final .. minor tweaks here and there, but the foundation is set in stone.

 

 

YUP - because oft times, games that come from Korea to the America and EU are totally different than what it is in Korea. People keep keep saying it will be a great sandbox, etc - we have no clue.

A good argument .. we'll see  .. although XLGames is translating a direct version to release in Russia first.  Why Russia?  Anyones guess, but I imagine they critique less :-)

Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.

  botrytis

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Joined: 1/04/05
Posts: 2542

12/22/12 9:10:52 PM#105
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Karteli
Originally posted by botrytis
< SNIP >

The problem is people are overreacting to what the developers say. Take all the archage hype - people have read so much into the game, we have no clue as to want it really will be.

If you read the ArcheAge forums, and all the fan posts with literally hundreds of videos, you would doubt even your own statement.

 

It just went into it's last beta, and you say people still don't know what it will be? /puzzle

 

Last I checked, a game in beta is pretty final .. minor tweaks here and there, but the foundation is set in stone.

 

 

YUP - because oft times, games that come from Korea to the America and EU are totally different than what it is in Korea. People keep keep saying it will be a great sandbox, etc - we have no clue.

A good argument .. we'll see  .. although XLGames is translating a direct version to release in Russia first.  Why Russia?  Anyones guess, but I imagine they critique less :-)

All I can say is - Allods Online....

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  TwoThreeFour

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12/23/12 12:31:03 AM#106
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

 


Originally posted by Nightgroper
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Nothing ever made, nor ever to be made will live up to the hype. 

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I disagree, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64 and Metroid Prime all surpassed their hype. I don't see why it can't in principle happen for a MMORPG as well.

  fivoroth

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12/23/12 1:36:55 AM#107
Originally posted by Mannish
OP just curious to how long have you been playing Guild Wars 2 and also what other mmos have you played and enjoyed?

I really love this kind of elitism. Who cares if you are new to MMOs or you have been playing for years. Although I am well aware where most people are going with comments like yours.

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  Vaross

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12/23/12 2:11:20 AM#108
The Guild Wars 2 section of the forums is for discussion of Guild Wars 2, not what other posters are posting.
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