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  patrikd23

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

12/22/12 6:17:26 AM#41
First expressions about WarZ for me was that it was not half as good as Day Z.
  Kabaal

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12/22/12 6:35:24 AM#42

They've already moved onto a new game and will likely caese support for WarZ next year.

http://venturebeat.com/2012/12/17/arktos-entertainment-acquires-majority-stake-in-game-studio-hammerpoint-interactive-exclusive/

"Los Angeles-based Hammerpoint will announce its next game in early 2013 and will release it in the third quarter of 2013."

As they did with WarINC they will probably move the entire team from WarZ to this new game and cease support for WarZ.

If they need to they will probably scrap the hammerpoint name, absorb everything back into Arktos and start a new company, as they did when they switched from WarINC to WarZ.

Always keep your words soft and sweet, just in case you have to eat them.

  TruthXHurts

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12/22/12 6:45:20 AM#43
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by orbitxo

Honestly these things are taken way out of extreme.

people spending too much time to ditching a game-if you dont want to play it then dont. move on, if you feel youve been ripped off- ask for a refund. -done.

i myself beign a commercial artist-there is nothign wrong to take images(photographs) for referenceto use in  illustrations. this is just stupid. iam not going to go into detail about teh extent of usage i would say 85% of the people here woulndt even understand and iam not abt to educate them about commercial advertising. they should be in school learnign something instead of trolling forums.

You sound like you do not know much about this particular case at all.

It isn't just about a graphic.

Also asking for a refund had some customers threatened with being added to a "global blacklist" which would make purchases from other companies very difficult in the future.

Not to mention the developers lying about why the game was pulled from steam on their forums.

Don't forget the developers permanently banning people from the Steam forums for breaking a rule they have on their non-steam forums.

Also deleting threads that ask for refunds.

Valve is spending a lot of time undoing the damage caused by this developer.

But yeah I'm not going to go into the detail about the full extent of the fraud as I am not about to educate a commercial advertiser on the merits of reading about something.

This is also goin on on the Darkfall Unholy Wars Forums. Asking for a refund got my account permenently banned, but my subscription is still active.

"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"

  Jorendo

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12/22/12 8:34:32 AM#44
Originally posted by orbitxo

Honestly these things are taken way out of extreme.

people spending too much time to ditching a game-if you dont want to play it then dont. move on, if you feel youve been ripped off- ask for a refund. -done.

i myself beign a commercial artist-there is nothign wrong to take images(photographs) for referenceto use in  illustrations. this is just stupid. iam not going to go into detail about teh extent of usage i would say 85% of the people here woulndt even understand and iam not abt to educate them about commercial advertising. they should be in school learnign something instead of trolling forums.

Sergey has lied about absolutely everything. Ontop of that he admits that the advertisement wasn't correct but he says "We are sorry if people have missread the advertisements". He kept lying and accusing that everyone who reported a bug or complained about the FACT that a lot of things he advertised with where not in the game, he called them Day-z fanboys trying to destroy his game and reputation. I never ever met anyone who banned people for reporting a bug...yet he does and shouts that they where fanboy's trying to destroy the game and that there are no bugs. And this Sergey guy should be on a blacklist of frauds. He lied, he treathened and he been a general *ss to his community. He should be blacklisted and never get a job in the game industry ever again.

  Jorendo

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12/22/12 8:39:04 AM#45
Originally posted by Kabaal

They've already moved onto a new game and will likely caese support for WarZ next year.

http://venturebeat.com/2012/12/17/arktos-entertainment-acquires-majority-stake-in-game-studio-hammerpoint-interactive-exclusive/

"Los Angeles-based Hammerpoint will announce its next game in early 2013 and will release it in the third quarter of 2013."

As they did with WarINC they will probably move the entire team from WarZ to this new game and cease support for WarZ.

If they need to they will probably scrap the hammerpoint name, absorb everything back into Arktos and start a new company, as they did when they switched from WarINC to WarZ.

 

Amazing how frauds like that may continue ripping people off. So they make a game in about 3 months time. Demand money from it...people buy it, find out its nothing near as the promises said...then they cease their studio and move on. These guys should be arrested and get in jail for a few years.

  erictlewis

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

12/22/12 8:46:05 AM#46
Originally posted by TruthXHurts
Originally posted by Zyzra
Originally posted by orbitxo

Honestly these things are taken way out of extreme.

people spending too much time to ditching a game-if you dont want to play it then dont. move on, if you feel youve been ripped off- ask for a refund. -done.

i myself beign a commercial artist-there is nothign wrong to take images(photographs) for referenceto use in  illustrations. this is just stupid. iam not going to go into detail about teh extent of usage i would say 85% of the people here woulndt even understand and iam not abt to educate them about commercial advertising. they should be in school learnign something instead of trolling forums.

You sound like you do not know much about this particular case at all.

It isn't just about a graphic.

Also asking for a refund had some customers threatened with being added to a "global blacklist" which would make purchases from other companies very difficult in the future.

Not to mention the developers lying about why the game was pulled from steam on their forums.

Don't forget the developers permanently banning people from the Steam forums for breaking a rule they have on their non-steam forums.

Also deleting threads that ask for refunds.

Valve is spending a lot of time undoing the damage caused by this developer.

But yeah I'm not going to go into the detail about the full extent of the fraud as I am not about to educate a commercial advertiser on the merits of reading about something.

This is also goin on on the Darkfall Unholy Wars Forums. Asking for a refund got my account permenently banned, but my subscription is still active.

Does anybody have an email of being threatened with being added to a global balcklist.  I know there are global backlist for email spammers, but I never heard of one for games. I would like to see a screen shot of one of those emails. 

  MMOdad72

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Joined: 12/21/12
Posts: 94

12/22/12 8:46:19 AM#47

The IGN and other interviews were very entertaining.

I get how people can/do defend SWTOR decisions that made me want to pull my hair out , even how some die hard Darkfall fans defend their turf so to say.

But how anyone can defend this guy , who lied/ducked multiple times many questions/issues is beyond me.

Easiest example is he said they ran out of Steam keys is why Steam pulled it , when Valve directly says they pulled it because in a nutshell it's crap and we don't want to have it on Steam.

Fairly easy to believe Valve over this guy/team , yet people still want to give him a pass even on this ?

I guess there's a sucker born every minute.

  Kniknax

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12/22/12 10:32:05 AM#48
Originally posted by furdude
Paying to remove respawn timers has been removed from the game. This part of your artcle is incorrect.

You seem to be doing an awful lot of research to attempt to prove this article as wrong, including replying to everything everyone says here against the game.

Do you perchance work for the company in the article? If so, it may be advisable to cease in your comments, before you make the company look even worse.

"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright

  Dragonantis

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Posts: 967

12/22/12 10:43:11 AM#49
Im glad they sorted this out, the game was never ready for sales like that. Maybe end of Q1 next year.
  Drolkin

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Joined: 12/07/05
Posts: 255

12/22/12 10:46:53 AM#50
Originally posted by orbitxo

Honestly these things are taken way out of extreme.

people spending too much time to ditching a game-if you dont want to play it then dont. move on, if you feel youve been ripped off- ask for a refund. -done.

i myself beign a commercial artist-there is nothign wrong to take images(photographs) for referenceto use in  illustrations. [mod edit]

I agree, I took a break from this website, I come back a month later and I see this and another article trashing the game still, talk about a stale industry.

  Razeekster

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May the game be ever in your favor.

12/22/12 11:12:17 AM#51
Originally posted by furdude
Paying to remove respawn timers has been removed from the game. This part of your artcle is incorrect.

All of your comments where you're going "that was incorrect" were correct for the time so stop sounding like such a crazy-hardcore fanboi. The author's articlle is 100% correct for the time it was written.

Smile

  Talonsin

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Joined: 7/19/06
Posts: 1033

12/22/12 3:53:57 PM#52
Originally posted by furdude
Paying to remove respawn timers has been removed from the game. This part of your artcle is incorrect.

These things were removed as a result of the articles condeming the practice.  The articles are correct, the developer took action because of them.  This is why it is important for gamers to make their opinions known.  The only way greedy developers and poor development is brought to light and corrected is for the media to get involved. 

  Zyzra

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Joined: 6/18/07
Posts: 363

12/22/12 3:57:07 PM#53

That furdude would probably say an article printed during world war 2 about an attack on pearl harbor was incorrect, because pearl harbor appears fine today.

  Opapanax

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12/22/12 4:10:18 PM#54
Originally posted by Kabaal
I'm not sure how they're going to recover from this tbh as the Studio is now toxic in the gaming community. The story has been so popular that it's even been the 4th most read article on the BBC site yesterday. A good start would be firing Sergey but it will take more than that.

 

Completely toxic.. Got a hit on yahoo also

PM before you report at least or you could just block.

  AlBQuirky

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12/22/12 5:20:07 PM#55


Originally posted by erictlewis
Does anybody have an email of being threatened with being added to a global balcklist.  I know there are global backlist for email spammers, but I never heard of one for games. I would like to see a screen shot of one of those emails.

I know web images can be faked easily. When I Googled "warz refund blacklist" I came upon this:
leviathyn.com

...which seems to be the only reference everyone else is using.

Does one web picture make it so? I do not know.

- Al

Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.
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  Failtrain

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12/22/12 8:35:34 PM#56
Originally posted by Drolkin
Originally posted by orbitxo

Honestly these things are taken way out of extreme.

people spending too much time to ditching a game-if you dont want to play it then dont. move on, if you feel youve been ripped off- ask for a refund. -done.

i myself beign a commercial artist-there is nothign wrong to take images(photographs) for referenceto use in  illustrations. [mod edit]

I agree, I took a break from this website, I come back a month later and I see this and another article trashing the game still, talk about a stale industry.

Think about that for a second; perhaps it's because the game really is trash. Did you read the article? Let's not support frauds, please.

  Darkcrystal

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12/23/12 3:01:12 AM#57

I don't condone them at all, but you people always find something to complain about in every game, go look at every games forums its full of people thinking they know more then Devs...

 

Funny I been waiting for some of you to make your own games... Because thats what I did when I got sick of seeing games I dislike but what was I thinking you people rather whine about everything...... By the way to MMorpg... This thread from the start had trolling all over it....

  Wolfhammer

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Bleh!

12/23/12 8:32:17 AM#58
Oom not a good situation at all..  I doubt the project and company are going to survive this...  You'd most likely have to be a few tins short of a 6-pack to buy this game now or in the future.

  Wraithone

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12/23/12 8:37:52 AM#59
Originally posted by Kabaal
I'm not sure how they're going to recover from this tbh as the Studio is now toxic in the gaming community. The story has been so popular that it's even been the 4th most read article on the BBC site yesterday. A good start would be firing Sergey but it will take more than that.

This has grown well beyond just one Dev.  At this point, the entire company (branding wise) is toxic.  Sergey just put the cherry on top of the toxic cake.  They should NEVER have been allowed to directly interact with the player base, or the public. 

  GrayGhost79

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12/23/12 5:38:34 PM#60
Originally posted by Darkcrystal

I don't condone them at all, but you people always find something to complain about in every game, go look at every games forums its full of people thinking they know more then Devs...

 

Funny I been waiting for some of you to make your own games... Because thats what I did when I got sick of seeing games I dislike but what was I thinking you people rather whine about everything...... By the way to MMorpg... This thread from the start had trolling all over it....

Your comment has no place in this thread. There is an actual situation here and it isn't what typical MMO's or games in general go through. 

 

There is a difference between "SWTOR f2p conversion is one of the worst I've seen" and the real legal issues surrounding War Z. 

 

I understand where you are coming from but this thread does not fall in line with what you are trying to say. A new thread in general chat would have been appropriate but trying to down play the situation here is not. 

 

 

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