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  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/21/12 4:11:01 PM#21
Originally posted by XAPGames

As far as I played, I felt the storyline was well done but with excessively slow pacing.

 

I have mixed feelings on the dialog options.  They seemed to be broken down into three choices: what you're supposed to say, what you're not supposed to say, and something sort of in the middle.  I didn't want to gimp my character so regardless of how I wanted to play, I responded with what I was supposed to say.

 

You can't really gimp your character by choices. The only items in game that are DS or LS are relics from 1 to 49 and you really don't have to bother with them. At level 50 relics are neutral. Of course some lightsabers are DS or LS but that's just look, and I am almost positive you can get equivalent.

I was following the DS or LS so far on my toons as well, but I decided that that's it. All toons I am going to level now will be a free choice depending on how I feel about situation. It really does not have that much effect.

The only exeption is the class quests and maybe some world quests. Definitely big deal in IA case. Not so much in Warrior case. But even if you choose DS  when you are LS you can make it up doing FPs (especially  Black Talon - regular or HM) it gives a lot of points - 300 or more I think for one run.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  FromHell

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12/21/12 4:18:57 PM#22
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by tixylix

 I really do not get why every cutscence, if you can call them that always involves shot reverse shot, two static characters talking to each other and only moving their hands or swaying side to side.

couldn´t agree more.

Always thought I am the only one noticing how badly directed and lame those cutscenes are, as if they had hired someone who failed the first semester of film school.

At least SWTOR cutscenes are still lightyears better than the laughable cutscenes GW2 is offering.

Well, another category in which Secret World blows the competion out of the water.

 

 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

If you enjoy lighthearted fun, TSW is not for you. Also if you lack basic RP-ing abilities and the ability to immerse yourself in a non-voiced avatar, TSW is not for you. The NPCs are the ones telling their stories, not your character which is supposed to represent you.

I hate pre-recorded voiceovers for my MMO characters, I either don´t like the voice or the dialogue options. I have a far better connection to my TSW character than to any SWTOR character talking (even funnier in groups with 3 inquisitors all having the same voice. 

What an avatar has to say in an MMO is meaningless, as you know the dialogue options are mostly useless in TOR, except for dark or lightside points fluff. 

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  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/21/12 4:38:54 PM#23
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by tixylix

 I really do not get why every cutscence, if you can call them that always involves shot reverse shot, two static characters talking to each other and only moving their hands or swaying side to side.

couldn´t agree more.

Always thought I am the only one noticing how badly directed and lame those cutscenes are, as if they had hired someone who failed the first semester of film school.

At least SWTOR cutscenes are still lightyears better than the laughable cutscenes GW2 is offering.

Well, another category in which Secret World blows the competion out of the water.

 

 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

If you enjoy lighthearted fun, TSW is not for you. Also if you lack basic RP-ing abilities and the ability to immerse yourself in a non-voiced avatar, TSW is not for you. The NPCs are the ones telling their stories, not your character which is supposed to represent you.

I hate pre-recorded voiceovers for my MMO characters, I either don´t like the voice or the dialogue options. I have a far better connection to my TSW character than to any SWTOR character talking (even funnier in groups with 3 inquisitors all having the same voice. 

What an avatar has to say in an MMO is meaningless, as you know the dialogue options are mostly useless in TOR, except for dark or lightside points fluff. 

That's your opinion. I never RPed so much in any other MMO as I am doing in SWTOR as it gives me fantastic baseline to build on and it's awesome. I even write fan fiction around my characters. I was never able to do it in other games. I just did not care, because the story and lore was meaningless. SWTOR is different. I love my characters, I love how they deal with stuff and I make up more things around the real events in game. It's awesome :)

Lets agree that you are different then me. And all SWTOR class voice overs are awesome... every one of them is exceptional with my favorite sith warrior male and IA male.

 


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  jpnz

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12/21/12 4:48:52 PM#24
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

/snip

Lets agree that you are different then me. And all SWTOR class voice overs are awesome... every one of them is exceptional with my favorite sith warrior male and IA male.

 

I find your lack of faith in the Female Shepard (i mean Female Trooper) disturbing. :P

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  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/21/12 4:55:29 PM#25
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

/snip

Lets agree that you are different then me. And all SWTOR class voice overs are awesome... every one of them is exceptional with my favorite sith warrior male and IA male.

 

I find your lack of faith in the Female Shepard (i mean Female Trooper) disturbing. :P

LOL I have a male Trooper :) Are you saying that I have to create a female one LOL.

Btw I love to play male characters in SWTOR. They are so... cute. Body type 2 btw...


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  jpnz

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12/21/12 5:08:22 PM#26
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by jpnz
 

I find your lack of faith in the Female Shepard (i mean Female Trooper) disturbing. :P

LOL I have a male Trooper :) Are you saying that I have to create a female one LOL.

Btw I love to play male characters in SWTOR. They are so... cute. Body type 2 btw...

They are both voiced by Jennifer Hale and she plays them both really similar (which makes sense since they are both 'soldiers'.

If you play Female Trooper, SWTOR becomes 'Mass Effect the MMO'.

 

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  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/21/12 5:40:17 PM#27
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by jpnz
 

I find your lack of faith in the Female Shepard (i mean Female Trooper) disturbing. :P

LOL I have a male Trooper :) Are you saying that I have to create a female one LOL.

Btw I love to play male characters in SWTOR. They are so... cute. Body type 2 btw...

They are both voiced by Jennifer Hale and she plays them both really similar (which makes sense since they are both 'soldiers'.

If you play Female Trooper, SWTOR becomes 'Mass Effect the MMO'.

 

LOL ok... she will be my character #26 /grin


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Zinzan

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12/21/12 5:58:43 PM#28
Originally posted by FromHell

What an avatar has to say in an MMO is meaningless, as you know the dialogue options are mostly useless in TOR, except for dark or lightside points fluff. 

Actually each class has many story paths and your dialogue decisions alter the reactions from the story, NPC's and your companions.

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  User Deleted
12/21/12 7:56:45 PM#29
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

I don't know why this keeps popping up, but the game doesn't force anything on install.

  FromHell

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12/21/12 8:05:21 PM#30
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

I don't know why this keeps popping up, but the game doesn't force anything on install.

Yep, that´s another BS rumor. Never got any Xfire installation with TSW, also the assumption that TSW would struggle is wrong. I can´t get anywhere at the moment without seeing tons of other players, even more than during the population growth in the last 3-4 months. So far the only title I see that struggles is TOR (shutting down 90% of the servers doesn´t scream success)

Secrets of Dragon´s Spine Trailer.. ! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwT9cFVQCMw

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2X_SbZCHpc&t=21s
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  Ayliar

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12/21/12 8:11:00 PM#31
The character/class storyline at times made me feel like I was actually part of a mini movie or book. Sometimes it was just the same old, same old. Voice  cutscenes did a very good job. Spoiled me for questing in other mmo's to a small degree.
  Dauzqul

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12/21/12 8:16:42 PM#32
I found the story to be extremely cheesy...  with all the annoying cliche stuff, e.g., "I have a bad feeling about this", "all smugglers are rugged and drive a fast / ugly ship", "the carbonite casings", etc.. It was so cheesy that it actually made mefeel stupid playing it,
  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/21/12 8:24:46 PM#33
Originally posted by mmoDAD
I found the story to be extremely cheesy...  with all the annoying cliche stuff, e.g., "I have a bad feeling about this", "all smugglers are rugged and drive a fast / ugly ship", "the carbonite casings", etc.. It was so cheesy that it actually made mefeel stupid playing it,

Smuggler story is a bit different from others. I would not make a solid opinion about game based on just one and one of the weakest in my opinion storyline.

Imperial Agent's storyline and ship are like 1000x better, though I enjoyed smuggler storyline mostly because of some very funny liners.


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Sevenstar61

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"But it was so artistically done..." - Grand Admiral Thrawn's final words

12/21/12 8:26:29 PM#34
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

I don't know why this keeps popping up, but the game doesn't force anything on install.

Yep, that´s another BS rumor. Never got any Xfire installation with TSW, also the assumption that TSW would struggle is wrong. I can´t get anywhere at the moment without seeing tons of other players, even more than during the population growth in the last 3-4 months. So far the only title I see that struggles is TOR (shutting down 90% of the servers doesn´t scream success)

If you have Xfire installed, it outomatically logs you to Xfire, I did not say will install it. I have it on my computer but I don't use it, so I was surprised that it used it.

 

TOR is doing good, thank you very much :)


Sith Warrior - Story of Hate and Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKrlwXt7Ao
Imperial Agent - Rise of Cipher Nine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBBj3eJWBvU&feature=youtu.be
Imperial Agent - Hunt for the Eagle Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQqjYYU128E

  Vidir

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12/21/12 8:29:21 PM#35
I did like the class quest and story for my charakter in swtor (smuggelar) but when reach max level it was game over for me, totally changed how you play the game.
  erictlewis

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12/21/12 8:31:53 PM#36

I found it great for the class story line. However it was total 100% overkill for all the side quests, and the dailies like the 3 sith who went down to the vault.  You learned to hit the space bar a lot.

 

  DarkOmega

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12/21/12 8:34:04 PM#37
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  FromHell

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12/21/12 8:57:02 PM#38
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

I don't know why this keeps popping up, but the game doesn't force anything on install.

Yep, that´s another BS rumor. Never got any Xfire installation with TSW, also the assumption that TSW would struggle is wrong. I can´t get anywhere at the moment without seeing tons of other players, even more than during the population growth in the last 3-4 months. So far the only title I see that struggles is TOR (shutting down 90% of the servers doesn´t scream success)

If you have Xfire installed, it outomatically logs you to Xfire, I did not say will install it. I have it on my computer but I don't use it, so I was surprised that it used it.

 

TOR is doing good, thank you very much :)

I don't have Xfire and I don't know anyone who uses it, in fact I hate apps running in the background collecting information.

don't need this crap.

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  Sevenstar61

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12/21/12 10:08:38 PM#39
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
Originally posted by FromHell
Originally posted by asmkm22
Originally posted by Sevenstar61
 

 I bought TSW but can't make myself to play it. The starting cutscenes are not that great in my opinion and I don't like that my character is mute. I guess it's a matter of style.

And if TSW was so great, why it does struggle so much to stay afloat, TSW has forced Xfire on log in  (which surprised me)  and even that can't make the difference in numbers. I will play it in small doses as I love storyline MMOS but it does not make me as excited as when I play SWTOR. In fact it makes me really depressed and I don't like it LOL. I don't play MMOs to get depression LOL. I play it to have fun.

I don't know why this keeps popping up, but the game doesn't force anything on install.

Yep, that´s another BS rumor. Never got any Xfire installation with TSW, also the assumption that TSW would struggle is wrong. I can´t get anywhere at the moment without seeing tons of other players, even more than during the population growth in the last 3-4 months. So far the only title I see that struggles is TOR (shutting down 90% of the servers doesn´t scream success)

If you have Xfire installed, it outomatically logs you to Xfire, I did not say will install it. I have it on my computer but I don't use it, so I was surprised that it used it.

 

TOR is doing good, thank you very much :)

I don't have Xfire and I don't know anyone who uses it, in fact I hate apps running in the background collecting information.

don't need this crap.

It has some cool features. Like video capturing and broadcasting, chat and much more. I use it from time to time, not very often.


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  Deewe

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12/22/12 10:11:20 AM#40
If you want good story telling play games like Risen, The Witcher, Planescape Torment.
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