Originally posted by ironhelix
 In the end, they have alienated their original customers, and done nothing to attract new ones. 

8/

nothing == all those drastic changes you were just complaining about? heh

Originally posted by corpusc

Originally posted by ironhelix
 In the end, they have alienated their original customers, and done nothing to attract new ones. 

 

8/

 

nothing == all those drastic changes you were just complaining about? heh

Like how the NGE was supposed to attract the WoW players with its drastic changes?  same thing but somehow worse I guess

Originally posted by ironhelix
 they throw out the whole thing and start over

point was..... the above quote was said, and then a sentence or 2 away from there he calls that "nothing"

Originally posted by kadepsyson

Like how the NGE was supposed to attract the WoW players with its drastic changes?  same thing but somehow worse I guess

NGE took away diversity. UW is exactly opposite.

Just look at last year DF1 videos - do they really make an impression of "perfect PvP game" ? 

Early DF 1 was amazing.

Last year they've removed the grind - but it did not brought the early magic back. Everyone was using the same gear, the same skills, the same tactics, had the same HP and MP, needed the same resources, etc.

Something had to be done - because it was no longer MMO.

I'm sorry but this is one of the worst developers out there right now. They FLAT OUT LIE to try to sucker you into pre-ordering for a complete game thats ready to be released, and then hide it behind an NDA.

Are people really that desperate for a Sandboxy type game that you'll put up with Tasos and this garbage company he has created? I'm almost beginning to think he's a scam artist. 

Their developement processes are just horendous, and have no idea how to fix it. There is an item persistence bug that everytime you log out out you lose all your stuff and this game was supposed be ready for launch?

Originally posted by tw1386

I'm sorry but this is one of the worst developers out there right now. They FLAT OUT LIE to try to sucker you into pre-ordering for a complete game thats ready to be released, and then hide it behind an NDA.

Are people really that desperate for a Sandboxy type game that you'll put up with Tasos and this garbage company he has created? I'm almost beginning to think he's a scam artist. 

Their developement processes are just horendous, and have no idea how to fix it. There is an item persistence bug that everytime you log out out you lose all your stuff and this game was supposed be ready for launch?

Out there right now? Surely the developers of War Z arn't doing much better.

What personal experiences do you have with adventurine that would back up your claims?

Originally posted by EnzoBautista

Originally posted by tw1386

I'm sorry but this is one of the worst developers out there right now. They FLAT OUT LIE to try to sucker you into pre-ordering for a complete game thats ready to be released, and then hide it behind an NDA.

Are people really that desperate for a Sandboxy type game that you'll put up with Tasos and this garbage company he has created? I'm almost beginning to think he's a scam artist. 

Their developement processes are just horendous, and have no idea how to fix it. There is an item persistence bug that everytime you log out out you lose all your stuff and this game was supposed be ready for launch?

Out there right now? Surely the developers of War Z arn't doing much better.

 

What personal experiences do you have with adventurine that would back up your claims?

easy one, take every of their claims and you find it inaccurate at least (if you confront it with reality). This list is so long that no one can really believe in any coincidence.

I can tell you 2 big lies from my experience.

They announcened there wouldnt be any wipe by any means  and then after they know they would wipe they didnt told that to the public for more then a year  just to keep people subbed. 

A second example would be they announced january a expansion (i think it was 2011)  with early access Q2 same year and guess what july passed and noone could say what happened to the expansion and no official news  (expansion never laucnhed)

Of course both times this tactic was used to keep people subbed and  paying.

If you plan to sub you will find out they will use this again to keep you paying for whatever content they miss to put in the final build now.

Originally posted by EnzoBautista

Originally posted by tw1386

I'm sorry but this is one of the worst developers out there right now. They FLAT OUT LIE to try to sucker you into pre-ordering for a complete game thats ready to be released, and then hide it behind an NDA.

Are people really that desperate for a Sandboxy type game that you'll put up with Tasos and this garbage company he has created? I'm almost beginning to think he's a scam artist. 

Their developement processes are just horendous, and have no idea how to fix it. There is an item persistence bug that everytime you log out out you lose all your stuff and this game was supposed be ready for launch?

Out there right now? Surely the developers of War Z arn't doing much better.

 

What personal experiences do you have with adventurine that would back up your claims?

Aventurine is easily, hands down, the most dishonest MMO dev company out there.

Charged my credit-card after I canceled it -CHECK

Lied about game features in DF 1 (right up to just a few months ago, the web page for DF1 still had the "exaggerations" -CHECK

Lied about players who pre-ordered DF1 would be able to transfere to the NA server from EU -CHECK. (they caved 6 mnths later after people had bought monthly subs for the NA server)

Straight out lie about DF:UW be ready for release in Nov, then Dec, then a 'closed-beta' for a game that they dont even have a full game client for- CHECK