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  xenomonk123

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12/16/12 1:01:13 PM#21
Originally posted by funcon
Originally posted by xenomonk123
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No troll. I'm seriously looking to get into an mmo that I can immerse myself into. And I do have a high end gaming pc and if I buy this game, will play it fully max settings. I am just waiting to check out videos from the beta on youtube to see if I like it or not.

You'll never experience darkfall by watching a video. If you really have a high end gaming pc you shouldn't have any trouble coming up with 30 bucks to buy possibly one of the best games ever. I'm sure you've paid plenty more for trash games you took a chance on if you're a gamer.

  gabbel

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Joined: 6/17/10
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12/16/12 1:03:44 PM#22

Thats footage from darkfall 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol8wci7LWIQ , doesnt look like late 90 s. You cant compare it with major non mmo releases though.

Anyway if the most important things you look at is stuff like splashing water, darkfall isnt for you.

  Zooce

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12/16/12 1:12:19 PM#23

Gamplay > graphics.  Always.

 

OP must be confused because all the DF:UW videos I've seen (pretty sure I've watched them all) look great.

http://www.darkfallonline.com/media/videos

  mdkman

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Joined: 1/10/06
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12/16/12 1:17:58 PM#24
The grafics in DF:UW is quite good for a MMO, But its not important, gameplay is what makes a game good or not.
  indef

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Posts: 360

12/16/12 1:20:52 PM#25

Another "I want good graphics over good gameplay" thread...

Things like WoW, SWTOR, GW2, and the other games you mentioned give you the same content re-hashed over and over and over and over and over presented to you in different ways and it looks GREAT.

I will admit, DF doesn't have the best graphics but the game looked pretty good for what it was.  Especially on maxxed settings like in that video "The Hunt" like others have mentioned.  Nobody played DF1 on maxxed settings because it would lag down your game and make you less efficient in combat, something nobody wanted.  Hopefully in the new game they have fixed the FPS problems so we can play with high graphics.

AV is an amazingly small company.  They have 55 employees.  Darkfall, by far, has the most content and developed features of any MMO that has ever been made.  FPS combat where aim and skill is most important, siege warfare with hundreds even thousands of players involved, city building/conquering/capturing, player housing, full loot risk:reward system, politics, player driven economy with famous crafters, and the list goes on.

You don't play Darkfall for the graphics.  You play Darkfall for the gameplay.  If there is anything you'd like to know about the game please feel free to send me a private message and you can come hop in vent/mumble.  I'll explain anything you'd like to know and link your videos/examples etc.

  therealeasy

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Joined: 12/11/12
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12/16/12 1:39:16 PM#26

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  Badaboom

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12/16/12 1:49:58 PM#27
Originally posted by therealeasy

the irony of the gameplay > graphics argument is that most games have dumbed down gameplay and went with graphics, and the gameplay of darkfall was always shit, and UW will be no better.. such a sloppy mess.  

 

the worst thing about the hacks in DF is that similar to a FPS game like counterstrike, they are truly gamebreaking.  macroing or botting pve to get rich in another game is nowhere near the level of wallhack, autoaim, and toggle.  df has terrible anticheat protection.

 

UW is the same graphics as DF.  they originally said they wanted an entirely new engine for the update, but they werent able to pull it off.  a few texture and character model tweaks, different skills, on top of the same crummy game.

 

i liked the look of DF, but the gameplay was not good.  to be good at DF you need to either play a lot or get into a faggoty comms alliance.  the dev team sucks and the pvp is not 'powerful feeling,' smooth or fun.    basically you hop/run around, firing presurged rays, aoe 90s and 100s, and switch to melee and archery when favorable.  it's a dance that takes some practice but little skill.  because most players are very poor because they are stupid and bad, most people will run away in the open field unless they feel they have odds.  running is extremely easy when using begone, stormblast, and mounts in combination, with a tiny bit of practice.  dont have wallhack?  dont worry, your client will lock up for around a second anytime someone gets near to you - the infamous load lag.  

 

UW has revamped the skills to remove a ton of abilities , surges, and further limited characters - because their idea of 'develop anything' didnt work , everyone just got everything.  

I completely disagree with your assessment. People who hacked in DF were eventually banned. Gameplay was fantastic.  Having physics like shooting an arrow straight up in the air and then eventually fall down was great.  According to AV, they also fixed the hitching of player loading (so let's wait and see).  They have also changed it so that you can die of falling damage so the people trying blast and run away will kill themselves.  Also, adding in random crits is much better than grinding to presurge your spells.

  indef

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12/16/12 3:24:57 PM#28
Originally posted by therealeasy

the irony of the gameplay > graphics argument is that most games have dumbed down gameplay and went with graphics, and the gameplay of darkfall was always shit, and UW will be no better.. such a sloppy mess.  

 

the worst thing about the hacks in DF is that similar to a FPS game like counterstrike, they are truly gamebreaking.  macroing or botting pve to get rich in another game is nowhere near the level of wallhack, autoaim, and toggle.  df has terrible anticheat protection.

 

UW is the same graphics as DF.  they originally said they wanted an entirely new engine for the update, but they werent able to pull it off.  a few texture and character model tweaks, different skills, on top of the same crummy game.

 

i liked the look of DF, but the gameplay was not good.  to be good at DF you need to either play a lot or get into a faggoty comms alliance.  the dev team sucks and the pvp is not 'powerful feeling,' smooth or fun.    basically you hop/run around, firing presurged rays, aoe 90s and 100s, and switch to melee and archery when favorable.  it's a dance that takes some practice but little skill.  because most players are very poor because they are stupid and bad, most people will run away in the open field unless they feel they have odds.  running is extremely easy when using begone, stormblast, and mounts in combination, with a tiny bit of practice.  dont have wallhack?  dont worry, your client will lock up for around a second anytime someone gets near to you - the infamous load lag.  

 

UW has revamped the skills to remove a ton of abilities , surges, and further limited characters - because their idea of 'develop anything' didnt work , everyone just got everything.  

One thing with a game like Darkfall is you end up with people like this.  They suck at the game and die a lot, then blame it all on hacking and game flaws.  Very few people in the entire population of the game hacked and they were all banned repeatedly.  I played Darkfall for 3 years and never once did someone hacking break the game for me.  I saw 2 people legitametely hacking in front of me, both of whom I ended up killing because hacking in a game like Darkfall only gives you more information, it doesn't give you better skill.

This poster obviously had a bad experience with the game because he isn't cut out for it and that is fine.  However he feels the need to try and ruin the experience for others.  Don't let his short-minded opinion influence you.

  Burning25

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Joined: 12/14/12
Posts: 24

12/16/12 3:38:28 PM#29
Originally posted by therealeasy

the irony of the gameplay > graphics argument is that most games have dumbed down gameplay and went with graphics, and the gameplay of darkfall was always shit, and UW will be no better.. such a sloppy mess.  

 

the worst thing about the hacks in DF is that similar to a FPS game like counterstrike, they are truly gamebreaking.  macroing or botting pve to get rich in another game is nowhere near the level of wallhack, autoaim, and toggle.  df has terrible anticheat protection.

 

UW is the same graphics as DF.  they originally said they wanted an entirely new engine for the update, but they werent able to pull it off.  a few texture and character model tweaks, different skills, on top of the same crummy game.

 

i liked the look of DF, but the gameplay was not good.  to be good at DF you need to either play a lot or get into a faggoty comms alliance.  the dev team sucks and the pvp is not 'powerful feeling,' smooth or fun.    basically you hop/run around, firing presurged rays, aoe 90s and 100s, and switch to melee and archery when favorable.  it's a dance that takes some practice but little skill.  because most players are very poor because they are stupid and bad, most people will run away in the open field unless they feel they have odds.  running is extremely easy when using begone, stormblast, and mounts in combination, with a tiny bit of practice.  dont have wallhack?  dont worry, your client will lock up for around a second anytime someone gets near to you - the infamous load lag.  

 

UW has revamped the skills to remove a ton of abilities , surges, and further limited characters - because their idea of 'develop anything' didnt work , everyone just got everything.  

I don't understand why people post about a game you don't like on the games forums?

 

I think WoW is a shitty game but I don't sit on their forums complaining about it...

  therealeasy

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12/16/12 4:54:59 PM#30

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  gchris7

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12/16/12 5:12:32 PM#31
If Darkfall's combat was weak, please tell me one mmorpg that has better combat.
  funcon

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OP  12/16/12 6:03:11 PM#32
So what is wrong with the game engine? Is it worse than what SWTOR has?
  BuniontToes

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Posts: 544

12/16/12 6:52:45 PM#33
Originally posted by gchris7
If Darkfall's combat was weak, please tell me one mmorpg that has better combat.

Don't feed the troll. 

 

The flashing neon sign shouldd be "I'm the bestest PvP'er there ever were!"

  tralla

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Joined: 10/08/06
Posts: 292

12/16/12 10:13:59 PM#34
Originally posted by funcon

....less pixels so that there could be huge battles between hundreds of players? So if this is the case, so it means you guys like game play over graphics, true? Me, I like great graphics and huge battles like Planet Side 2 has. Ive seen a few Darkfall videos on youtube and the graphics look like something from early 2000's or late 90s. The water doesnt splash when walking or jumping in it. The edges of most objets are blocky or straight line. And the shore lines they are straight lines no ripples or anything. How can you guys play a game with these style graphics? They used this style back in the old days. We are in 2013, do you guys not want to play games with nice graphics?

 

Heres the video I'm talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPSzR01gffs

 

I'm not trying to bash this game, but I don't know. Nice graphics is what attracts me to some games, not only nice graphics of course but if the game doesnt have nice graphics, it is most likely I will not play it.

Why the hell would the water need to splash?

Will just remove that graphic to improve fps and every little % that makes me perform better in PvP. You see my point? 

 

Incase you don't.. Good graphic causes more lag for a majority of the players, wich must be prevented when this is such a hardcore PvP game with open PvP and full loot. All players that are serious about gaming will pull down their graphics to low to see better and perform better. 

  tralla

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12/16/12 10:18:03 PM#35
Originally posted by therealeasy

I suck at the game?  

 

I am probably one of the best DF players ever.  You are probably some scrub.  Very few players were on my level in 1v1s and rolled with some of the best groups.

 

I had over 1 mill actual gold in the bank when i stopped playing plus about 2.5 mill worth of ore and q4-5 mats, and a good number of large, regular maps, a few ships, r60s, infernal, FP, and more.  My character had 6 weapon masterys at 100 and almost every spell surging.  I had a lot of time to play when I did - I don't anymore

 

 

The game just isn't good and UW will be another letdown.  The combat is weak.  The animations are not 'powerful.'  The majority of players will think they are good while they zerg in their comms.  Making a decent amount of money and loot will again be a fruitless endeavor because the pvp just won't be good and will be pointless.  

 

The game is glitchy and isn't fun.  The combat is weak.  I'll play a good game instead and wait for a decent MMO.

 

 

By the way I started playing after Conquer the Seas - a friend let me try on release and Wow this game was a joke.  It wasn't even a game.  Lots of DF players disagree but they are wrong - it was pathetic at release.  

 

The DF devs said they would upgrade the game with a new engine (because the old one sucks) but they didnt.  The new 'changes' look lame.  This game will surely be trash.

 

 

Not to say that you are'nt the best DF player but..

"My character had 6 weapon masterys at 100 and almost every spell surging." Is just admitting the 24/7 macro.. 

And what was your ingame name and name of the guilds you rolled with?

 

"This game will surely be trash." What a sad negative attitude. Sure the chance that it will suck is high. But atleast hope that we will get a nice PvP game to play. Better this than nothing.

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